unfortunately it wont be…the labor voters will shout about the tories and if anyone tries to point out the illegal behavior they will be arrested as right wing biggots.
Around the same time as southport atrocity a solider got stabbed here in the next town over to me. there is no reason for the perpetrator to be there there is no shops or anything. He went there to stab a solider end of. is he locked up no is he in a secure unit due to mental health issues (the usual excuse) no. is he laughing his arse off sitting at home doing what ever he fancies crying because a few locals gave him a hard time (they have been arrested and sentenced btw) As to the solider he had to change positions and barracks disrupting his and his families life and move to the other end of the country disrupting his children’s schooling during their exam years.
In the UK we do not have jail sentences handed down without a right to a trial.
I don’t know what defence etc could be mounted, but I do know that I want everyone given the right to a defence in a court.
If it goes to court maybe the jury will be just as quick to serve justice as in the case of the Police officer accused of murder.
The guy accused of murder who was not kept in custody…whose case took months to come to court in spite of a video being taken…
Surely these last Labour voters will have realised their mistake,.especially pensioners…they aint all radical lefties, I would say most of them are normal working people.
I would have definitely voted Labour if I thought they actually were a Labour Party, I am a Labour voter by nature, I fit the profile, my family were Labour supporters for generations.
This lot is way out of touch with me and people like me, but if I had succumbed to Starmers ‘I’m a man of the people’ con trick, and voted, I would be feeling that they do not represent me, don’t listen to me (not personally but as a group) and I would feel totally betrayed…as elderly Labour voting members of my family have said.
My old Dad,.a lifelong Labour man, even says that Reform correlate with a lot of the way he thinks, and that Labour have lost their way, and convenientlly forgotten their roots.
The rioters were fast tracked through the courts because the narrative of this motley crew in charge maintained the rioters were all “far right racists” brought in by the bus load from out of town in some kind of White House type siege. That was utter bollox, in many many cases it was the discontented having a go. All convicted given excessive prison sentences. Fact.
The Manchester airport thugs are Asians, straight away a top Lawyer jumps on their case and the Police pap themselves for fear of being accused of racism, the locals to the thugs gather in their masses to demonstrate, fear of violence is there to see, no fast tracking there. Fact.
The Southport 4rsewipe is arrested, a day later ricin and terrorist literature is found in his home, the ricin is confirmed after testing as being ricin within days yet it’s all hushed up. A contempt of court, (gagging order) is mentioned and we are all silenced, for fear of being fast tracked though the courts for our opinions and the motley crew have the ultimate ace up their sleeves to continue their narrative in the form of National Security. Fact.
You really comparing an armed copper doing his job who should have been nowhere near a court of law for doing his highly skilled trained job compared to 2 thugs partaking in a vicious unprovoked attack on armed police in an airport. You are beyond help.
Far be it from me to ‘defend’ Franglais, I think I have made my thoughts and opinions crystal, since he had the gall to ‘take me on’ with his pseudo bravado offensive insults.
My non qualified analysis ? (for what it is worth)
I think he is neither blind nor stupid.
He comes across as an intelligent bloke tbh…
Maybe not blind, more ‘selectively sighted’ when it comes to Politics.
He sees every single thing there is to see in terms of negativity towards any political individual or party that he hates, and he thrives on using them for his own point scoring…for whatever reason
But any political individual or party of which he has an element of support for, and who display similar or same negative traits, then suddenly that 20/20 vision is blocked off by the metaphorical blinkers he chooses to wear when things do not cortelate with their official narrative…
Not only does he pretend he does not see it, he goes on to attempt to defend it.
As for ‘stupid’,.as I have said he aint.
Brainwashed, ‘servile to the Lefty Liberal cause’, deluded and naive?
You decide, (but I already have.)
there may be a few that voted labour because they always have and are disillusioned about how its turned out. There may also be a few that voted labour because they didnt know who else to vote for. However i suspect they are in the vast minority.
there are some that are happy with how every thing is going even though they face to loose 10’s of thousands of pounds. People that worked hard all their life and saved into pension pots as they were told to do. Only to be heavily taxed on it and have other basic needs withdrawn and wait in agony for a doc appointment while foreigners get private treatment.
All this to say it was obvious from the get go how it was going to be and yet people voted for it why would they change their minds now. With the exception of the above anyone daft enough to swallow starmers lies in the first place is daft enough to swollow the rhetoric he spews now
So even you think it’s fair that those who were actually NOT far right activists were chucked in jail along with those who had just jumped on the band wagon in order to commit deplorable and purely racist attacks, …because they hated Moslems essentially.
If I had been innocentlly walking down that street on that day, even I would maybe have joined in showing my displeasure with how this govt is alienating working class and the indigenous population.
I certainly would not be beating up people just because they were a different colour, or setting fire to hotels, as the more radical were…but I am certainly capable of gobbing off about injustices or displays of favouritism…especially towards those who have no right to be here in the first place, who these lot are making unbelievably welcome.
So even I could have been in the next cell to the ‘Highly dangerous FB criminals’.
Only for excercising free speech and the right to protest in a free country…ha ha.
After saying that, I would guess that you and people like you would love to see the demise of any non servile non conformists in order not to disrupt your nirvanic lefty society .
Just you stick to your official stats mate whilst ignoring and refusing to believe what is going on around you.
I am having trouble understanding the point made/question here.
People are charged with and tried for offences under law.
No one is charged with being “a political activist”.
Anyone committing “deplorable and purely racist attacks” were probably charged with crimes of violence…for attacks…as you say.
If those attacks were racially aggravated then I understand the law deals more harshly with those.
I think that those who premeditated violent acts and organised them, did and should have received harsher sentences than those who were easily led and unthinkingly joined in with a flock of others. But I don’t think those were wholly innocent. As adults they are all responsible for their actions.
No one was locked up “for protesting” peacefully.
Some were locked up for violent illegal acts. Be that in planning and encouraging others, or being led on unthinkingly.
You are kin unbelievable.
Who tf are you to judge what is the criteria for protesting peacefully, what legal qualification have you for making that judgement exactly?
The guy who topped himself did not assault anybody, the judge stated he was non violent, he did not beat anybody up, or commit potentially murderous arson.
In comparison to those who did, and to the actual bonafide far right racists…I would say this guy gobbing off and waving his placards was comparitively ‘peaceful’ in anybodys book, maybe apart from yourself who leads his naive sheltered life.
It was a highly charged scenario, mood was running high, aggresion was in the air, would you expect him to join hands and sing a song, or place flower garlands around the necks of the Police…the tragic thing is YOU actually would.
Anyway, whatever his methods and motives, the guy was so far at rock bottom that he took his own life…when he should have been at home on probation with a tag.
Shame on your mate Starmer.
And good on the likes of GBN and Talk Radio for having the nous and balls for highlighting all this type of stuff to the public, whilst the MSM carry on with their selective reporting.
I have none. I don’t need any. Peter Lynch pleaded “Guilty”.
And it seems he was a part of it !
A group of people all geeing each other up! Encouraging each other on to do things that they normally might not do.
Most people in most mobs are all normally OK people. Not many are full time rioters!
That is how crowds and mobs behave.
Normally peaceful people becoming part of cycle that ratchets up tensions, and needs to be stopped.
People
I would not expect to mindlessly join in with a mob. “Everyone else was doing it” was an excuse I left behind at junior school.
You shout about thinking for yourself, and not joining the herd, than defend those who do just that, and even tell us you might have done the same.
Was it a stiff sentence?
Yes it was.
Was it “the correct sentence”?
From here it looks like it was too hard.
From when he was in court, and a Judge (not a politician) made the sentence…I don’t know. I wasn’t there and didn’t hear all the evidence from all sides.
I know that you have pronounced on show-biz personalities on the basis of media reports, and not been bothered with hearing two sides of arguments, so fully expect a different point of view from you.
I’ve gone as far as I can to make my point on this, so I’ll give you the last word as it seems so important to you…record it in your leather bound book of ‘How many arguments have I won’'…(or in your own narrow mind think you have)
You will argue a point to the n.th degree, even when that point is pointed out to you by many that it is in fact wrong, or at least innacurate.
If I think I am right,.and everybody else tells me I am wrong…I am usually wrong !
Your narrow little world is purely black and white, with no in between nor mitigation, erring towards the opinions of authority, or what you are brainwashed into believing and regurgitating.
here is the thing… where are the arrests for the other lot when they were rioting and smashing up police stations etc over the FALSE story of police brutality. I havent seen or heard of any sentences harsh lenient or otherwise
Not to mention an illustration of how the majority of the US feel about the woke, and the lefty attitudes and policies
…despite what they were attempted to be led to believe, close call neck and neck my arse. …
To sum up the mood in 3 words .
‘‘Sick and tired’’…as in this country
The present govt (not to mention it’s loony left followers) should take heed.
but as a group) and I would feel totally betrayed…as elderly Labour voting members of my family have said.
