Magirus 310D26FS 6x4
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Thought I would post this pic on here. This ‘Mag’ appeared to be dumped at a land fill site in Northamptonshire some years ago, let’s hope someone saved it.
I just found a nice little site that tells a little bit of history of the truck and a man who sold them.
Try This
http://www.magirusdeutz.co.uk/Speziell.html
looks like an interesting site.
Thanks to Roland in advance
Wheel Nut:
I just found a nice little site that tells a little bit of history of the truck and a man who sold them.Try This
http://www.magirusdeutz.co.uk/Speziell.html
looks like an interesting site.
Thanks to Roland in advance
Nice one wheel Nut- very interesting. I remember them well.
I’ll have a proper trawl later. 
My old man used to drive a maggie 232D30 8x4 tipper for Ellis Davies of Trelogan near Mostyn reg number PAL528R. It was the only genuine bulker on the fleet ther rest had greedy boards for coal out of point of ayr colliery. with one insulated for tar and one steel bodied. They had about 14 of them going from a P reg upto the newest which was an X reg. one had a V10 (which was retro fitted out of a 310D16 tractor unit) the rest had the V8. two were long wheel bases.If I remember right they were a proper tipper that would go anywhere without getting stuck. A major failiure point was pistons coming through the barrel / pot. Does anyone remember this fine fleet of maggies? They were bought out by Leigh Enviromental that only bought the company for the Skip hire side of the company. the maggies were broken up at Pete Fishes yard in Coed Talon. 
My old man then went onto a Ford Cargo 1517 4x2 skip loader that had a V6 Maggie air cooled engine in it. If you’ve fallen asleep by now… WAKE UP !!!
Wheel Nut:
looks like an interesting site.Thanks to Roland in advance
Thanks Wheelnut.
I am that Magirus fanatic.
The first Maggies I ever saw would be about the late 70s Cawthorne Sinclair had quite a few running European replacing their Volvo 86s mostly Caterpiller work out of Birtley
Cawthorn Sinclair also had a French reg long nose Bussing artic.
I used to drive a Maggie for SCA to Italy.
The reason the V10s broke down so often was because the Maggie engine was designed as a marine engine.When put on a road vehicle the block couldn’t cope with the stress of uneven terrain & used to bend therefor always chucking out pistons.
harry:
Cawthorn Sinclair also had a French reg long nose Bussing artic.
I used to drive a Maggie for SCA to Italy.
I remember seeing SCA in Milan central customs a time or two. I also seem to remember seeing them at the “white house” near Reims.
I’m not sure whether there’s a connection between Maggie Deutz and Büssing. I don’t recall seeing a Büssing artic . The ones I saw were all rigids, with the engine slung under the chassis and a column gearchange. Nice engine note too. The photo below is just about typical of the Büssings I saw.
dieseldave There is no connection between Maggies & Bussing. The connection was between CS & their French reg rig.
I used to drive that awful old Maggie road train for SCA. First time I drove it it broke down before I got to Dover after leaving Island Row in the East End. I arrived in Western Docks with a traffic cop in the cab holding some linkage or other together by hand thru the engine cowling. 
PS.That Bussing in the snap has the underfloor engine.Thats why the artic has the bull nose.
When I was doing M/E in the '70’s,I got to know a pleasant German trucker who spoke excellent English.I used to run into him as one did with other colleagues on the M/E,varying diferent places.His name was Berndt Braun(Bernard Brown),tall guy,about 6’3",almost bald,and he was a barrel of laughs.I met him once inthe pub in Dover just outside the Eastern dock,(The Albion?) .
He once told me the reason why he had lost most of his hair,he used to be a salesman for Maggy Deutz in Germany,and he said they were the worst truck ever built!
Quite a few firms had Maggies on the M/E in the early days,but majority of them came home topped on someone’s trailer,they were so unreliable.
On the subject of Bussing,weren’t they taken over by MAN?
harry:
dieseldave There is no connection between Maggies & Bussing. The connection was between CS & their French reg rig.
I used to drive that awful old Maggie road train for SCA. First time I drove it it broke down before I got to Dover after leaving Island Row in the East End. I arrived in Western Docks with a traffic cop in the cab holding some linkage or other together by hand thru the engine cowling.
PS.That Bussing in the snap has the underfloor engine.Thats why the artic has the bull nose.
Hi harry,
Thanks for that. I only wondered whether there was a connection, because firms sometimes do buyouts or takeovers. I didn’t know whether that had happened in the case of Maggi Deutz / Büssing. I do remember that M.A.N. made some aquisitions in that way. Even though I’m an old hand, I’m still just as keen to learn as I was when I first started. I’ve found that you never know what info you could pick up when old hands get together on here Cracking story about the linkage BTW.
bestbooties:
Quite a few firms had Maggies on the M/E in the early days,but majority of them came home topped on someone’s trailer,they were so unreliable.
I never did M / E, but I do remember seeing Maggies heading for home on low-loaders. It all seems to make sense now, because of harry’s explanation about the engine having been designed for marine purposes.
bestbooties:
On the subject of Bussing,weren’t they taken over by MAN?
I’m not sure. IIRC, Wheel Nut tends to know that kind of thing. He might put us right.
dieseldave:
bestbooties:
es"]On the subject of Bussing,weren’t they taken over by MAN?I’m not sure. IIRC, Wheel Nut tends to know that kind of thing. He might put us right.
with a little help from google I found this
Denis F:
dieseldave:
bestbooties:
On the subject of Bussing,weren’t they taken over by MAN?I’m not sure. IIRC, Wheel Nut tends to know that kind of thing. He might put us right.
with a little help from google I found this
I didn’t expect that
It just goes to show that the info is “out there.”
Well researched Denis F!
harry:
Any more recent news on Bussings & their drivers or owners would be appreciated.
Hi harry,
Sorry, but I don’t remember the Swiss firm you mentioned.
I recall “Asia-Shop” with their colourful tilts.
IIRC, Hangartner’s and “Kessler” and one more that I can’t quite remember all had one or two Brits working for them. The only guy whose name I can remember was Peter, who worked for Hangartner.
I’m off to Germany soon, (all being well) so I’ll keep my eyes open for Büssings and get some snaps. Time allowing, I’ll also talk to drivers.
The reason the V10s broke down so often was because the Maggie engine was designed as a marine engine.When put on a road vehicle the block couldn’t cope with the stress of uneven terrain & used to bend therefor always chucking out pistons.
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Hi Harry . I have only recently seen your comment about Deutz V10s.
I may not be an experienced driver like most of you but I am quite knowledgable about Deutz engines and I could not let your ‘designed as a marine engine’ go without comment .
The Deutz engine was not designed as marine engine. There is obviously no point in designing an air-cooled engine to operate in a boat, with a permanent water supply laid on, free of charge
The engines did not break down often, and to say the Middle East was not good for Magirus Deutz is a joke, surely ?
The number of trucks breaking down in the Middle East with water related problems was quite high, and probably still is.
The largest concentration of Magirus Deutz today is in South Africa, where its is quite hot, and they have uneven terrain also.
Magirus Deutz trucks did not require much maintenance and as a result of this fact, some operators took advantage of this and gave them no maintenance at all.
There are many people in the world who agree with what I am saying as is proved by the amount of email I receive daily.
Deutz were the FIRST company to open a diesel engine factory, and they are still making Air-Cooled engines today.
harry:
Cawthorn Sinclair also had a French reg long nose Bussing artic.
I used to drive a Maggie for SCA to Italy.
The reason the V10s broke down so often was because the Maggie engine was designed as a marine engine.When put on a road vehicle the block couldn’t cope with the stress of uneven terrain & used to bend therefor always chucking out pistons.
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Hi Harry . I have only recently seen your comment about Deutz V10s.
I may not be an experienced driver like most of you but I am quite knowledgable about Deutz engines and I could not let your ‘designed as a marine engine’ go without comment .
The Deutz engine was not designed as marine engine. There is obviously no point in designing an air-cooled engine to operate in a boat, with a permanent water supply laid on, free of charge
The engines did not break down often, and to say the Middle East was not good for Magirus Deutz is a joke, surely ?
The number of trucks breaking down in the Middle East with water related problems was quite high, and probably still is.
The largest concentration of Magirus Deutz today is in South Africa, where its is quite hot, and they have uneven terrain also.
Magirus Deutz trucks did not require much maintenance and as a result of this fact, some operators took advantage of this and gave them no maintenance at all.
There are many people in the world who agree with what I am saying as is proved by the amount of email I receive daily.
Deutz were the FIRST company to open a diesel engine factory, and they are still making Air-Cooled engines today.
Maggie’s made excellent engines for boats but burned & crashed in trucks.;believe me ,when it takes 3 weeks to go to London-Turin-Milan-London because of breakdowns you always have a soft spot for wonderful Maggie’s. I ,of course, only know what happens in Europe with these rigs. What happens in Africa is maybe another thing. I drove ,for various firms, 3 different models of those dogs & was plagued by breakdowns Summer & Winter. They are crap.