you should of yelled out the window im not with them i want high fuel prices.
of course in your situation if you couldnt of found out by the usual means of the time because you were in bingo bongo the planner may of told you but failing that a detour
Absolute nonsense. Bully-boy activism is never going to be the same as democratic collective bargaining. āBingo bongoā was not my country of loading: it was respectfully known as Morocco. My transport manager did indeed warn me of the undemocratic plan, but it remained unavoidable. Discuss 
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i must remember that one next time im going somewhere sorry boss i cant go as there is a hold up on the m11 that cant be detoured round
It detours us back to the subject of this thread. The problem with bully-boy activism is that it encourages bully-boy retaliation. We saw this in the '70s. I lived in the Middle East during the Arab Spring and government thugs came to be the answer to activist thugs, even though the activists had a point. Controlling behaviour specifically to get your way is not always the cleverist way to achive it.
thats the point militant action designed to cause maximum annoyance by entitled jso wanna be revolutionists is a world away from an organised well published demonstration.
the former just annoys everyone and inspires retaliation the latter most people are sensible enough to accept it with out resorting to violence or retaliation as most people were moaning about the fuel price.
Agree 100%. Not all serious crimes are violent. They planned a most significant disruption to infrastructure, with the proviso of staying non-violent.
Looking at the broader picture, in a way they āwonā anyway - we now have 4 Green Party MPs in the House of Commons. The message is starting to get through, in proper democratic ways.
Oh! Is that how the law works? OK, full disclosure, I will be down your way on 1st August between midnight and 4 am, I am intending to burgle your house, if you donāt have the intelligence to be away from home during those hours, you will be bound with gaffa tape and slung into the back of the Transit, to be dumped later in a laybyā¦
No, of course Iām not going to do that, but can you see that advertising a potential breaking of the law does not make it acceptable?
And I for one did not see any change in fuel prices after the pointless excercise by a number of vehicles on the A1(M), nor would I have expected to; fuel prices are not arbitrarily set by the government, nor are the government likely to be kow-towed by one sector of one industry who canāt even be bothered to take the first step towards political clout, which is of course to become unionised. Even the most powerful unions only have a limited amount of leverage with the HoC.
ffs why do you insist on comparing apples and oranges. burglary is illegal rolling road blocks are not. if you think they are the next time im caught in one by the police ill be sure to send you the details so we can sue them.
there are companies that use unions the trouble is alot of the members vote away their rights / perks or dont understand what is being put in front of them. an example a company i worked for that delivered food products you were allowed a little bit of wastage or if something was broken you could take it home if it wasnt able to be resold/repackaged. it wasnt a written rule but the company knew it went on. the drivers did take the proverbial and the company was happy. They then wanted to have cameras installed that recorded the driver 24/7 both driving and in the back. union said no way this is a micky takeā¦ the company said well we will put your wages up 50 pence an hour the majority of the drivers saw dollar signs and voted yes even though it was explained to them that if they were caught in wrong doing they would be instantly fired. consequently the cameras were fitted and half the workforce got sacked with in a month all for a few quid which has backfired on them because they now have worse paid jobs with the same rules.
Yes they are illegal.
tell that to the cops
not necessary:
Highways Act 1980
Penalty for wilful obstruction.
(1)If a person, without lawful authority or excuse, in any way wilfully obstructs the free passage along a highway he is guilty of an offence and liable to [F1imprisonment for a term not exceeding 51 weeks or] a fine [F2or both].
thats the police screwed then i better pull em over next time and arrest them.
yet they dint arrest the drivers and they dont arrest the drivers that under stgo can only do 40 and havenāt arrested anyone moving an escorted load.
the whole issue is a few entitled arse holes that have no legitimacy got nicked for causing millions in lost revenue and costs and got nicked what should of happened is the filth should of dragged them out the way rather than pandering to them but because of the woke brigade which incidentally these people are self elected life long members of the police couldnt do anything.
STGO vehicles are receiving lots of attention from Police/DVSA, many seem to be lacking the necessary paperwork and end up parked in some motorway services.
Also, thereās no minimum speed for a motorway, so the especially heavy vehicles arenāt committing an offence, but that does not extend to wilful obstruction by HGVs running side-by-side, trying to make some kind of point
if the paper work is done correctly or not is neither here nor there the fact is they dont get stopped for willfully traveling at 40 mph. nor do the police when they do it at slower speeds so something can be done on the carriage way further up. in fact it is done deliberately rather than close the carriage way to keep traffic moving. so once againā¦ legal rolling roadblock or blocking the road completely too different things one legal and allowed the other not
Oooooohhhh yes it isssss!
Iāve already explained that, plus the rules are different for STGOs, see section 2.1
Youāre wrong; you can deny what I say as much as you like, but it wonāt change how the law is deployed - just because on one occasion they turned a blind eye to things, DOES NOT mean they will do it everytime.
ok next time im in a rolling road block by the police ill be sure to get their details and pass them on to you to prosecute them
The authorities are allowed to do it; bog standard HGV drivers are not
so now we have gone to some people are allowed to do itā¦ so what your saying is there is provision in the law for people to perform a rolling blockade obviously within set guidelines. legal purpose or legitimate reason maybe? like maybe a legal demonstration that has been organised correctly.
What is so hard to grasp?
Police and other authorities are allowed by law to do certain things that private civilians are not.
In this example we are talking about the powers of The Authorities to perform a legal rolling road block for the purposes of enforcing some particular rule or law; this is not the same some HGV drivers committing an offence (as defined in the legislation I posted earlier).
Thereās nothing legal about obstructing the road for the rest of the road going public