I am very uninformed regarding adr, have a small number of paraffin 4ltr amongst mixed cargo in roller cages, I am inclined to think that they should be packed together in a container with an LQ symbol assuming its within LQ.
Could anyone give me a quick pointer what is required.
Thx
njl:
I am very uninformed regarding adr, have a small number of paraffin 4ltr amongst mixed cargo in roller cages, I am inclined to think that they should be packed together in a container with an LQ symbol assuming its within LQ.Could anyone give me a quick pointer what is required.
Thx
It’s not your responsibility for the packaging, thats up to the consgnee/consignor, also the transport company is responsible for giving you all the information and paperwork that is required…
You are allowed to carry upto a certain quantity if its not LQ, kg or litres 0, 20, 333, 1000.
njl:
I am very uninformed regarding adr, have a small number of paraffin 4ltr amongst mixed cargo in roller cages, I am inclined to think that they should be packed together in a container with an LQ symbol assuming its within LQ.Could anyone give me a quick pointer what is required.
Thx
Hi njl,
Yes, a quick pointer is all that’s needed.
The correct LQ size for UN 1223 KEROSENE, 3, PGIII is 5L.
However, the rules for LQs are that the 4L receptacles must be carried in a cardboard box. If this is complied with, then there is NO limit on the amount that can be carried.
It’s possible that the consignment may not be intended to be carried as LQs, which would be OK.
In this case, each package would need to be individually marked and labelled.
For a non-ADR trained driver, the small load allowance for this substance is 1,000L
Packaging this consignment as LQs would be the easier option though.
As Stephen says, it’s not your problem. (If you’re an employed driver.)
Thanks to you both for your replies.
to compound on the op’s post. I have always wondered if dealing with lq do you have to follow the separation rules ie you cant have flammable substances with in so many meters of an oxidizer and where does the drivers responsibility lie if he/she loads the vehicle but doesn’t stack the cages/palettes
cooper1203:
to compound on the op’s post. I have always wondered if dealing with lq do you have to follow the separation rules …
Hi cooper1203,
Yes, normal segregation rules apply to LQs as they do to the same substances packaged in more ‘normal’ ways.
cooper1203:
… ie you cant have flammable substances with in so many meters of an oxidizer …
I’m not sure where you got this bit from, but the normal segregation rules (in a descending order of acceptability) are what you were taught on your ADR course. For a consignor, the segregation rules stem from the mixed packing rules in ADR, of which there are more than 30 quite complex rules.
cooper1203:
… and where does the drivers responsibility lie if he/she loads the vehicle but doesn’t stack the cages/palettes
An employed driver’s responsibility is to carry out the instructions of the carrier ( = his/her boss.)
If no segregation instructions were given by the carrier to the driver, then the responsibility still rests with the carrier to follow the consignor’s instructions, if applicable, and inform the driver.
Even if the driver works directly for the consignor and has ‘other duties’ including the stacking of consignments on cages, it’s still up to the consignor to provide suitable instructions.
The consignor is responsible for only consigning loads that conform to ADR, including the consigning of LQs.
An employed driver is NOT expected to strip down pallets or cages ( = overpacks) and make the consignor/carrier’s decisions for them because an employed driver is NOT expected to be an industrial chemist.
The only time this changes is if the driver also owns the vehicle, because the driver would then also be the carrier.
As I keep saying… an employed driver has very little to worry about when carrying dangerous goods. 