Hi lads if I lose my card
Just curious what happens to my 12 months data that’s on my card do I lose it all
Or is it a new blank card again.
Thanks
If you have not uploaded your card then all the data is gone mate. To add, you can not upload old data on to a new card.
Truckbling:
If you have not uploaded your card then all the data is gone mate. To add, you can not upload old data on to a new card.
but its all there on the head unit for vosa and the boss to down load … but as said it cant be uploaded to a new card …
I hardly think it’s worth “losing” your card over the infringements you posted before. Just crack on, and don’t worry too much about them, you’re not a proper driver unless you’ve got some infringements on your card, I try to update mine regularly!
cracker-bar:
I hardly think it’s worth “losing” your card over the infringements you posted before. Just crack on, and don’t worry too much about them
I completely agree.
And as has been said, one way or the other it’s on the companies record anyway.
Truckbling:
If you have not uploaded your card then all the data is gone mate.
No it isn’t. It is still retained in every digital tachograph that that card has been in in the last 12 months.
Combined with your other post suggesting someone lose their card you sound like one of those typical pillocks you hear in every drivers waiting room throughout the land who spout this ■■■■■■■■ thinking they’re cleve but only demonstrating that they don’t actually know much.
Bet you think VOSA fine you £10 a turn if you’ve not wound the landing legs up fully as well.
CAMARON:
what happens to my 12 months data that’s on my card
A card holds approx 28 days worth of info, hence the requirement on operators to download at least every 28 days.
Looooo:
CAMARON:
what happens to my 12 months data that’s on my cardA card holds approx 28 days worth of info, hence the requirement on operators to download at least every 28 days.
A driver card holds a minimum of 28 days of data, in reality most cards will hold several months of data.
If you check your driver card, even if you use the card every working day you’ll probably find that you can view records from 9 to 12 months ago.
Looooo:
CAMARON:
what happens to my 12 months data that’s on my cardA card holds approx 28 days worth of info, hence the requirement on operators to download at least every 28 days.
Far from it. A card can hold over 1 years worth of data, i can do printouts of my work for nearly 12 months ago.
The requirement of the cards is that it must hold at least 28 days worth of data but the reality is that many hold much more.
If you want to check how far back your card has data stored and you have time to keep pushing the down button - select to do a printout of a 24 hour day from the machine then see how far it will let you go back when selecting the date.
Is that a fact? Gonna check mine when I finish tonight.
On here to learn! 
tachograph:
Looooo:
CAMARON:
what happens to my 12 months data that’s on my cardA card holds approx 28 days worth of info, hence the requirement on operators to download at least every 28 days.
A driver card holds a minimum of 28 days of data, in reality most cards will hold several months of data.
If you check your driver card, even if you use the card every working day you’ll probably find that you can view records from 9 to 12 months ago.
This is very true, seen it myself. the 28 day MAX myth is just that.
Pointless “losing” your card because the data will be on the VU.
m1cks:
Looooo:
CAMARON:
what happens to my 12 months data that’s on my cardA card holds approx 28 days worth of info, hence the requirement on operators to download at least every 28 days.
Far from it. A card can hold over 1 years worth of data, i can do printouts of my work for nearly 12 months ago.
The requirement of the cards is that it must hold at least 28 days worth of data but the reality is that many hold much more.
If you want to check how far back your card has data stored and you have time to keep pushing the down button - select to do a printout of a 24 hour day from the machine then see how far it will let you go back when selecting the date.
Also very true, done it myself also.
It does hold well over 28 days
When I was doing trunking 4-5 days a week (About 10 mode changes a day) I could go back 18 months and it spat out a printout with a bit of missing information (Mileage I think it was) but the modes, times and possibly the VRM too were still there to see
Cant do it again as my new card was valid from January and there isn’t a lot of data on that at all… probably can go back to the beginning with that one.
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If you do manual entries you can fill the card up
and it will start overwriting thy sins.
oatcake1967:
If you do manual entries you can fill the card up
and it will start overwriting thy sins.
You’d have to do an awful lot of manual entries to make any infringements go away
tachograph:
oatcake1967:
If you do manual entries you can fill the card up
and it will start overwriting thy sins.You’d have to do an awful lot of manual entries to make any infringements go away
If we stick to the memory capacity of the chip in the card,
would you agree that you could over write the stored info
if you did enough manual entries.
If we leave aside VDU or company records being checked and
lets say an average agency driver gets stopped by DVSA and because
of the variety of work he does and loads of manual entries,
They could possibly overwrite a bad day they had a few months ago.
Or should I abandon my dream of" having an edge",however small
that dream maybe.
oatcake1967:
tachograph:
oatcake1967:
If you do manual entries you can fill the card up
and it will start overwriting thy sins.You’d have to do an awful lot of manual entries to make any infringements go away
If we stick to the memory capacity of the chip in the card,
would you agree that you could over write the stored info
if you did enough manual entries.If we leave aside VDU or company records being checked and
lets say an average agency driver gets stopped by DVSA and because
of the variety of work he does and loads of manual entries,
They could possibly overwrite a bad day they had a few months ago.Or should I abandon my dream of" having an edge",however small
that dream maybe.
The cards are supposed to be capable of holding a full 28 days’ worth of data, even if the driver changes mode every few minutes (i.e. drive-work-drive etc every few minutes of every working day). That will give you some idea of the number of transitions it can store. That’s how many manual entries you will have to make in order to fill it up and get it to start over-writing old data. It’s a very big number, and would take several hours of continuous button pressing.
Tbh I don’t see why a manual entry would use up more data space than an entry entered through the tacho head during “normal” operations (if that makes sense). As has been stated previously they hold a huge amount of info. I think Coffeeholic once quoted the number of separate events the chip holds and it was a staggeringly high number.
If I remember correctly the 28 days minimum storage is based on about 90 activity changes a day, I think it was a bit more complicated than that but that should be a decent guide to how many activity changes you need to make to over write the data in 28 days.
90 activity changes a day is a lot so I’ll wish you luck with that 
Sigh,
Anybody else miss those burning oil drum
tacho chart chats.