Lorries with Eaton Twin-splitter 'boxes

Dan Punchard:
D539VEW E10 twin steer .

Dan, spoke to Robert. Short version of answer.

It was Lockwoods from new, Robert let it go 13yrs ago. The place it went to as a shunter dropped the axle off it.

If you want to know more, Robert said give him a ring. I’ve got his number if you want it.

Cheers no rush,is that Lockwood s from down at Ambergate ? Yes the 2 nd steer is missing .

Dan Punchard:
Cheers no rush,is that Lockwood s from down at Ambergate ? Yes the 2 nd steer is missing .

Not sure about that Dan, Robert’s got it in his head they’re from Norfolk way.

Hi

The Lockwood’s in the Norfolk area would be Lockwood’s Foods at SuttonBridge.
They used to have their own fleet but I believe the haulage is now done by a consortium of Knowles and two other local firms.
Quite successfully too I believe, much to the big league players chagrin.

Bassman

These 3 all had Eaton Twin Splitter gearboxes.

Bassman:
Hi

The Lockwood’s in the Norfolk area would be Lockwood’s Foods at SuttonBridge.
They used to have their own fleet but I believe the haulage is now done by a consortium of Knowles and two other local firms.
Quite successfully too I believe, much to the big league players chagrin.

Bassman

Well there you go, looks like Roberts not losing it after all.

Thank you Bassman.

If any of you lads are interested, I have a pto complete with pump off a twin splitter, if any use to you its available at what it costs to get to you. It was in working order when i removed it and as I already have two spare pto,s its just gathering dust, Im Midlands based (south ) pm me if intrested.

Hi Norfolk ,yes I’d be interested is it a side mount pto drive / flange for pet regs or rear mount or under Neath ? Cheers .

had an iveco with it and have to say i hated evey second initially, once i got used to not missing gears was as good as an auto box really.

No Rush:

Dan Punchard:
D539VEW E10 twin steer .

Dan, spoke to Robert. Short version of answer.

It was Lockwoods from new, Robert let it go 13yrs ago. The place it went to as a shunter dropped the axle off it.

If you want to know more, Robert said give him a ring. I’ve got his number if you want it.

Why would this lorry have a 4:5 diff ? Seems a bit slow to me ,due to it being new to a Norfolk operator would it be to get in top gear on the fens ? My e14 is a 3:9 and will do 60 @ 1450 rpm .

Dan ,Its an underneath mount.

Thanks but I’ve got one like that .its the 2:1 reducer pto iam trying to avoid buying a new one for the kidney plate near side rear .

Here’s a piece I found on a slightly unusual bit of kit: a Dutch, LHD Roadtrain drawbar outfit with Roller lump and a Twin-splitter 'box. Robert :slight_smile:

Just a couple I had new The ERF go like stink gr8 Box, then the ATi Ok, Cheers Chris

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Advert from TRUCKING INTERNATIONAL December 1986. Robert


Dan Punchard:
Did anyone experience the valve problems with the early ts boxes where a missed split change could throw the cir clip off the back end of the box ,I seem to remember it was some valves which were replaced by the Austin beech valve ?

Seem to remember the earlier type valves being called “yes/no” valves. They had tell tale red and green pins on each valve that told you the operating position of the valve, ie which side of the valve had air pressure.

Interesting advert, with illustration. Shame about the English! (It should read Fewer shifts - Less effort: see me at playtime). Robert

I really don’t understand the fascination with the twin split boxes, imho it was an awful box to drive mated to whatever engine,

13 speed fullers did the same job but much easier, at least as far as I could see,

I drove twin splits in ivecos, seddon atkinson, fodens, and mans, and not wanting to sound like an idiot I could never get them singing like you could a fuller 9/13 speed…

Also stuck in my memory is me old strato having a fit coming home from madrid and refusing to go into top gear…

I then spent 1300 quid on a replacement twin split, as the chap at ■■■■■■■ rainham didn’t tell me that they couldn’t cope with as much torque / hp as the 13 speed fullers, and didn’t tell me that 6 months earlier when he wound the motor up !!!

Compared to a awful scania box I suppose they weren’t to bad, but still not a good box in my opinion, and false neutrals and bunny hops agogo ! Even worse when cold.

" I drove twin splits in ivecos, seddon atkinson, fodens, and mans, and not wanting to sound like an idiot I could never get them singing like you could a fuller 9/13 speed…".

Danny, whilst i understand what you are saying and somewhat agree with you mate, you personally had one major problem with the TS boxes, that being that one had to almost fully release the throttle to get enough slack in the transmission for the gearbox to ‘sense’ it and change gear, taking your foot off of the throttle was something your dear father Tubby obviously never taught you…

SteveBC…

Tubbysboy:
I really don’t understand the fascination with the twin split boxes, imho it was an awful box to drive mated to whatever engine,

13 speed fullers did the same job but much easier, at least as far as I could see,

I drove twin splits in ivecos, seddon atkinson, fodens, and mans, and not wanting to sound like an idiot I could never get them singing like you could a fuller 9/13 speed…

Also stuck in my memory is me old strato having a fit coming home from madrid and refusing to go into top gear…

I then spent 1300 quid on a replacement twin split, as the chap at ■■■■■■■ rainham didn’t tell me that they couldn’t cope with as much torque / hp as the 13 speed fullers, and didn’t tell me that 6 months earlier when he wound the motor up !!!

Compared to a awful scania box I suppose they weren’t to bad, but still not a good box in my opinion, and false neutrals and bunny hops agogo ! Even worse when cold.

Much as I loved the Twin-splitter (and yes, I did eventually master them), I agree with several things you’ve said. Yes, the Fuller 13-speed was even better but the only reason I fell in love with the TS was that by the late '90s it was the next best thing, and you couldn’t find lorries with Fullers any more. 'Bunny hopping was a sure way of avoiding the false neutrals but it was fiddle unless you only drove Twin-splitters every day. And yes, right again, Twin-splitters were a bit tricky until they had warmed up on cold mornings. My personal order of choice would be: 9-speed Fuller, 13-speed Fuller then Twin-splitter (and I’ve a strong suspicion that the 18-speed Fuller would go near the top somewhere if I ever used one). Cheers! Robert