Lorries with 9-speed Fuller Roadranger 'boxes

I’ve clearly opened a bag of worms (or rather cogs) here! South Africa seems to put 9-speed Fullers in just about anything that moves - here’s a Volvo! Robert :slight_smile:

Any Sisu units from Finland out there? I know they put 9 and 13-speed boxes in earlier versions of those. Robert

We mustn’t forget the old Seddon! I think quite a lot of these had 9-speed Fullers, including this exhibition one. Robert :slight_smile:

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Then Whites had 9-speed Fullers, usually attached to Cat 280s I think. Here are some that deffo had Fuller 9s in. Robert :slight_smile:




robert1952:
We mustn’t forget the old Seddon! I think quite a lot of these had 9-speed Fullers, including this exhibition one. Robert :slight_smile:

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Morning all, now that is an interesting lorry…

Painted in Seddons strange green and blue corporate colours, Chris, (Kelly), and I battled to sell her…

Chris was succesfull in getting her away to my friend Pat Blackburn, Chambers and Cook, whil`st I was endeavouring to negotiate a deal with a Guy Invincible as part exchange deep in the Black Country…

Glad that I did not sell her, she was a disaster, and was off the road more than on…

Very rorty torty with that big Rolls, shame about the rest of it!

I had forgotten about her…thankfully

Cheerio for now.

Saviem:

robert1952:
We mustn’t forget the old Seddon! I think quite a lot of these had 9-speed Fullers, including this exhibition one. Robert :slight_smile:

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Morning all, now that is an interesting lorry…

Painted in Seddons strange green and blue corporate colours, Chris, (Kelly), and I battled to sell her…

Chris was succesfull in getting her away to my friend Pat Blackburn, Chambers and Cook, whil`st I was endeavouring to negotiate a deal with a Guy Invincible as part exchange deep in the Black Country…

Glad that I did not sell her, she was a disaster, and was off the road more than on…

Very rorty torty with that big Rolls, shame about the rest of it!

What year (approx) would that have been, Saviem? Robert

I had forgotten about her…thankfully

Cheerio for now.

What year (approx) would that have been, Saviem? Robert

Here are some of the Fuller 9 variations available today in US:

  • RT-6609A
  • RT 8608L
  • RT-8609A
  • RT-8609L
  • RT-8709B
  • RT-8908L
  • RT-11609A
  • RT-11709H
  • RT-12609A
  • RT-12709H
  • RT-13609A
  • RT-13709H
  • RT-14609A
  • RT-14709H
  • RTO-11109B-ATE
  • RTO-13109B-ATE
  • RTO-14109B-ATE
  • RTO-16109B-ATE
  • RTOC-16909A
  • RTOCM-16909A
  • RTLOC-16909A-T2
  • RTOC-18609A
  • RTLOC-18909A
  • RTLOC-18909A-T2
  • RTX-11609B
  • RTX-11609R
  • RTX-11709H
  • RTX-12609B
  • RTX-12609R
  • RTX-12709H
  • RTX-13609B
  • RTX-13609R
  • RTX-13709H
  • RTX-14609B
  • RTX-14609R
  • RTX-14709H
  • RTX-16709B
  • RTX-16709H

And here are some of the variations in shift pattern for Fuller 9s. Robert

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Quite a lot of A-series ERFs had Fullers, but hardly any pics of these on here with deffo Fuller 9s. Robert

Saviem:
My old friend Antoine Loheac used 9 speeders in his later “Ton Tons”, but would have preferred 5 speeds to save even more weight.

Good morning Saviem! You mentioned Ton Tons. If I’m not mistook, this refers to the unusual in-house French truck manufacturer, Loheac. I post three pics of Loheacs below. The second I think is a Ton-Ton. The first shows the next stage of cab development and the last shows an ocean-going Loheac in all its glory. I believe latterly they used Twin-splitters, but have you any idea whether 9-speed Fullers were generally or widely used? Robert :slight_smile:

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i just noticed the big j had a direct top fuller 9 speed , same as the foden i drove . it suffered a catastrophic main shaft failure at about 12 months old and according to fodens parts were unobtainable . the upshot was an overdrive 9 speed from sykes at barnsley , top gear up to 68mph and then pop it in overdrive , what a flying machine ! when the 38 ton limit came in they found another direct top box , crawling about at 65 mph .

My ERF C series (Y reg, 290 RR, Rockwell axle) has an 11609A fitted. Will ask my old man what other variations they had at his firm.

K&M Hauliers at Hucknall Notts had E & F reg Foden S106 units and S108 rigids with the 11609A

my MW with the 220 ■■■■■■■ and 9 speed road ranger,our ERF B series 250 ■■■■■■■ and 9 speed road ranger (excellent machine, sad end), our other b series, 240 gardner and 9 speed road ranger.
i had a c series L10/250 when i worked in corby , B105MJU, started with an RTX 8 speed and had a 9 speed roadranger transplanted into it, which made it a better motor , but strangely confusing for anybody who didn’t know.
we also put a 9 speed roadranger into a scania 92 six wheel t/unit, after its splitter box gave up the ghost.
loved that roadranger box

tony

tonyj105:

we also put a 9 speed roadranger into a scania 92 six wheel t/unit, after its splitter box gave up the ghost.
loved that roadranger box

tony

How was that conversion done? Was it straightforward?

rigsby:
i just noticed the big j had a direct top fuller 9 speed , same as the foden i drove . it suffered a catastrophic main shaft failure at about 12 months old and according to fodens parts were unobtainable . the upshot was an overdrive 9 speed from sykes at barnsley , top gear up to 68mph and then pop it in overdrive , what a flying machine ! when the 38 ton limit came in they found another direct top box , crawling about at 65 mph .

I had one in my last Foden 6 wheeler tipper Dave, a Bitza from The Stores on the Moors! The limiter would kick in before I hit top gear! You needed 1st gear to pull away laden on level ground and crawler on a slope, reverse was very high as well which made it a pain on some uphill tips.

Pete.

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anorak:

tonyj105:

we also put a 9 speed roadranger into a scania 92 six wheel t/unit, after its splitter box gave up the ghost.
loved that roadranger box

tony

How was that conversion done? Was it straightforward?

fitting the gearbox to the engine was fairly straightforward i believe (i was the TM at the time), it was done by the workshop supervisor. it was the linkage that gave the problems , could never get it right, although when i drove it , it worked pretty well , but not up to ERF standards

tonyj105:
my MW with the 220 ■■■■■■■ and 9 speed road ranger,our ERF B series 250 ■■■■■■■ and 9 speed road ranger (excellent machine, sad end), our other b series, 240 gardner and 9 speed road ranger.
i had a c series L10/250 when i worked in corby , B105MJU, started with an RTX 8 speed and had a 9 speed roadranger transplanted into it, which made it a better motor , but strangely confusing for anybody who didn’t know.
we also put a 9 speed roadranger into a scania 92 six wheel t/unit, after its splitter box gave up the ghost.
loved that roadranger box

tony

Impressive! Some useful info there. And I wondered what that ERF 5MW had it - now we know. Always fancied a 2-series Scanny with a Fuller 9. Cheers. Robert :slight_smile:

I was earlier asking if there were any more examples of A-series ERFs out there. Lo and behold I have found another in my archives - and no ordinary example either, as this Eric Vick unit with a 9-speed Fuller even did a bit of Middle-East work itself. Of course, a lot of A-series units had 10-speed boxes. But they were ‘stick only’ shifts too. It occurs to me that the Fuller 9 belongs to the ‘stick-only’ cluster of gearboxes. This comes with the recognition that it is not the only Eaton-Fuller ‘box to have a stick-change for each gear and no splitter mechanism. (Of course, superb though they are, the Road-Ranger 13-speed and 18-speed ‘boxes, along with the Eaton Twin-splitter, are excluded from this category because they have splitter gears). The ‘boxes that fall into my ‘stick-only’ category include the following Road-Rangers: the Fuller 8-speed, 9-speed, 10-speed and 15-speed (regardless of whether or not they follow the U-shift or H-shift patterns). Robert :smiley:

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RDH181M is still used by Eric Vicks for taking trailers for test etc

Here’s the inside shot -

rigsby:
i just noticed the big j had a direct top fuller 9 speed , same as the foden i drove . it suffered a catastrophic main shaft failure at about 12 months old and according to fodens parts were unobtainable . the upshot was an overdrive 9 speed from sykes at barnsley , top gear up to 68mph and then pop it in overdrive , what a flying machine ! when the 38 ton limit came in they found another direct top box , crawling about at 65 mph .

The Big J was fitted with the direct top box when it became apparent that it was far too fast with the overdrive box after it had received its new rear axle (Rockwell SA180 iirc)…