Dan Punchard:
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I had a look round this Foden today it’s actually a spicer 4 over 4 with super low 4 over 4 ,it recently needed attention and parts had to be got from America.
Scammell Crusaders usually had 15-speed Fullers if they were LHD 6x4s, as I’m sure you know. However, one LHD 6x4 Scammell ended up with a 9-speed Fuller 'box, in Sovtransauto livery, with full arctic cab insulation plying for the Russians between Moscow and Paris! Here’s the CM 1977 cutting, that tells all. Robert 
What a curiosity that Scammell is. The cab is insulated against noise, but the heater is a single-cylinder diesel engine mounted behind the cab! I wonder which was louder- that or the fridge motor? Why did the Russians buy it- they had their Kamaz and 4x4 Tatra tractors for international haulage (plus Hungary had hundreds of 140s and F89s), the latter allegedly readily convertible for military use? Maybe that is the clue- the Scammell was a similar to those used by the British Army, and the Russkies wanted one to examine.
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What a curiosity that Scammell is. The cab is insulated against noise, but the heater is a single-cylinder diesel engine mounted behind the cab! I wonder which was louder- that or the fridge motor? Why did the Russians buy it- they had their Kamaz and 4x4 Tatra tractors for international haulage (plus Hungary had hundreds of 140s and F89s), the latter allegedly readily convertible for military use? Maybe that is the clue- the Scammell was a similar to those used by the British Army, and the Russkies wanted one to examine.
You are probably right. As far as I know, all the LHD 6x4 Crusaders started life as military vehicles before wandering off into heavy-haulage yards, fairgrounds, or TIR duties. I’m sure one of the Scammell buffs can confirm (or dispute) this. Robert
My truck is brand new and has a 10 speed Fuller Roadranger in it 
Here’s a picture taken by Bob Tuck of an E-series ERF with a ■■■■■■■ L10:250 in it, plus a 9-speed Fuller 'box. Robert 
And a picture by ■■■■ Flute here, of an Iranian International with a ■■■■■■■ 14-litre 320, double-drive and a 9-speed Fuller. Robert
I’m not well up on American trucks but I do recognise that the above International model bears more than a passing resemblance to the Transtar (many of which also had 9-speed boxes). Does anyone know what this model was called (it probably ends in ‘star’ like all the rest!)? Robert
It’s a 9700 model, they were available with a set back front axle and the version you see above.
Very popular in the 90s with the big fleets.
newmercman:
It’s a 9700 model, they were available with a set back front axle and the version you see above.Very popular in the 90s with the big fleets.
Thanks for that! I’ve seen the set-back version too. In fact just about all the International cabovers I’ve seen have all been Iranian. Cheers. Robert
In fact this International was part of the XL-series or CO/F-9670 with Detroit or ■■■■■■■■
Strange enough hardly with Caterpillar offered…
See also the rest of the old-established family of IH-COE’s. Indeed Robert was aiming on the
wellknown ‘star’-names…Cargostar, Fleetstar, Loadstar, Transtar, Paystar (mind DAF N2500)
and more…resulting in NAVISTAR? Bear in mind the nice ACCO-series of Australia…
ERF-Continental:
In fact this International was part of the XL-series or CO/F-9670 with Detroit or ■■■■■■■■Strange enough hardly with Caterpillar offered…
See also the rest of the old-established family of IH-COE’s. Indeed Robert was aiming on the
wellknown ‘star’-names…Cargostar, Fleetstar, Loadstar, Transtar, Paystar (mind DAF N2500)
and more…resulting in NAVISTAR? Bear in mind the nice ACCO-series of Australia…
A wonderfully full and informative response: thank you A-J. Robert
It was a common sight for me to view several International’s in a frequent order on “Geldropseweg” or DAF II in Eindhoven.
Sturdy Transtars and other types…and unfortunately the marriage between DAF and International did not harvest at all.
Volvo and White, Mercedes and Freightliner, Renault and Mack…it was and is possible.
I looked on a truck sale website and they’re all called 9700s on there, was the 9760 an export model?
That 9670 in the first brochure posted above by A-J gives some impressive choices: 17 engines and 11 gearboxes - now that’s going some! Robert 
Evening all, well, the Harvest rumbles on…only sadly my body, and bones are finding this,(bumper), year a bit harder than the previous ones…it is called old age…and I hate it…the sheer frustration that ones joints, body, and the onset of fatigue…well its hard to understand, let alone handle!!!
But as I was squirting diesel into the Deere today, (Ive had to concede the key role of the armchair in the Claas combine to one of my lads whose eyes and bones are better suited to the rabid concentration needed to cut successfully)…so I`m relegated to “carting” the grain back to the store… But just thinking about the lorries with 9 speed Fullers…and I had forgotten those exotic creations of my true friend, (the late), Antoine Loheac. The last independent lorry builder of France.
Somewhere in these threads I have written at some length of Antoine, and his creations, “Les Tontons”, his company, and his paternalistic philosophy. But you will, (if you wish to), have to search for it, for I am far o tired at this hour, (ater 16 hours in the saddle), to seek it out…
But Antoines designs were based upon lightness, durability, and low operational cost, (and then the ultimate 21st century ikon…recyclability!!
From the top of my head, Antoines tractor fleet of around 500, “recyclable” units had by 1977 a core of 400 9 speed Fuller boxes behind DAF, Berliet, and Scania power units, and his workshops held as many spare parts, (rarely used), as the parts department at Saint Nazaire where these boxes were assembled.
Now a “Tonton”, (Uncle), in its many forms…(but not the last “re-engineered” Renault ones), were quite some exotic beast of a lorry…and Mr Fullers 9 speed played a vital part in their reliability…and all were recycled WW2 machines!!!
Cheerio for now
For the collectors amongst us…found this old one (1966) on ebay this morning
Oh ffs, just seen a photo of a 1990s International COE being restored and it’s a 9670 model 
Evening all, well the day goes well, the tonnage per acre coming off is strong…as is everyone elses…so the price goes down…but to spend ones day in this wonderful countryside, behind one of Mr Deeres soulfull engines is joy beyond belief.
But as the multispeed auto gearbox drones up and down its range of ratios,( bit like a “modern” musician with his computer controlled orchestral accompanyment), an old boy like me cannot help but miss the skill needed to match engine/road/and ratio, to give that silky smooth ride that we could all enjoy, and gain great satisfaction from, (the delight of a Baroque Scarlatti, in comparison)…so again I thought about these ubiquitous 9 speed Fullers…and their fitment.
Now my friend Antoine Loheac was a true individualist, unique, and in todays legislation heavy Europe, a total impossibility to follow. But what of our Eastern neighbours in days gone by?
Remember those DAF, and MAN lookalikes, in Imra Torma`s dark green Hungarocamion livery, from Hungarian Manufacturer Raba? Who was Raba, what did they do?
Well quite a lot actually…10 plants throughout Hungary, primarily manufacturing axle sets for the road transport industry, (40% plus exported), single, double, and hub reduction, plus agricultural ,and trailer sets, engines, (licence built from MAN designs, 98/350hp), generators, chassis frames, (for Raba, Cespel, Skoda, Liaz, and Bus builder Ikarus). A major, “hard currency earner” for Hungary, via Raba`s business relationship with US General Electric, and Eaton Corporation.
So the DAF cab Raba of the late 70s, early 80s, would, as it rolled out of Raba`s Gyor plant, (2000 lorries built per year), have behind its , MAN-Lizenz 10.34 litre type 21D 300hp Turbo, engine , a 9 speed Fuller, driving down to a Raba single reduction axle. But Raba wished to develop its independence, and in association with the Linz Institute in Austria, developed its own Raba 11.05 litre air to air intercooled turbocharged engine, the D11TLL, having a specific fuel consumption in 370 hp form below 200 grams/KWH, and a torque output of 1031lb ft. And the box, 9 speed Fuller…with a later option mid 80s of the 13 speed.
Nice people at Raba, I went to Gyor on a number of occasions, (mainly with my colleagues on the bus side) but they were real lorry men, restrained by the confines of their political system, and they had a very close working relationship with their collaborators at the Eaton corporation.
Rain for tomorrow, good for our “spuds”, less so the Wheat…I shall take solace in the arms of my Bollinger…
Cheerio for now.
Cheers, Saviem! Robert
