Lorries with 9-speed Fuller Roadranger 'boxes

[toddy2]

newmercman:
There was no assistance on the clutch pedal in my 2013 Peterbilt although it wasn’t as heavy as the one in the 2005 I had before it, that was almost a two feet job and not fun in stop start traffic at all.

My old RoadCommander2 had no assistance, and as you say, stop start traffic certainly made your leg ache at the end of a trip

[robert1952]

windrush:
Regarding air assistance (off topic of course!) our Foden S39’s with Fodens own 17 inch clutch were without assistance but the S50 half cabs and dumpers did have an air cylinder, similar to a small brake chamber, mounted on the clutch cross shaft. The clutches without assistance had less springs, however if we fitted one to an air assisted vehicle they were far too light (lighter than the Gardner throttle, you could fully depress the clutch by hand standing outside the cab door) and the driver had no ‘feel’ over the clutch which caused propshaft breakages!

Of course the assistance was only good if set up correctly, some were far heavier than the non assisted vehicles until adjusted properly.

Pete.

Hardly ‘off topic’, old thing! The clutch is an essential part of the transmission system. When I drove Corbishley’s old ERF NGC ‘European’ I was amazed at how comparatively light the clutch action was. But I did move an old Foden lorry-mounted crane in a boat yard once for someone and that did have a heavy clutch! Robert

[armstrong]

windrush:

Armstrong:
Thank you Robert, it was rebuilt and put back on the road in July 2013 so I’m hoping for a few years out of the old girl yet
Regards , Armstrong

Could easily see you through to retirement Nigel! I could still clamber in that and do a days work, wouldn’t know where to start with all this fancy tackle that some folk run these days.

Pete.

You would be ok in this old bird Pete as she has a 405 ■■■■■■■ with a Jake too and you wouldn’t have to bother about any of this expensive foreign machinery hassling you on the hills

[robert1952]

A nice bit of cross-fertilisation here: when I posted the picture of a Bedford KM (below) on the Bedford thread, ‘Andrew.S’ pointed out that it had a V6 Detroit and would therefore have had a 9-speed Fuller in it. Nice one Andrew! Robert

[andrew_s]

another one for you robert-cant believe i forgot to add this!!
my fathers bedford TM 3250
this was a detroit v6 example (dont let the single axle trailer fool you lol)
it sounded absolutely lovely,and the old man really liked it and got very good value out of it.
this deffo had a nine speed fuller
pictured here loaded with 16 tons of egyptian spuds from newhaven docks in 1984 ish

yes that is my father in the picture with his white “miami vice” shoes and some red rope holding his trousers up !!! he is now a sprightly 76 years old,and i never let him forget about how he is dressed in this pic

[robert1952]

Cheers Andrew. Don’t let ‘Saviem’ get wind of those Egyptian spuds! Robert

[andrew_s]

robert1952:
Cheers Andrew. Don’t let ‘Saviem’ get wind of those Egyptian spuds! Robert

hahaha
my father isnt very impressed by his roping and sheeting in this pic either, as he was usually something of a perfectionist-however a short hop from newhaven to one of the london markets in summer didnt require much effort and time was short ,hence the fly sheet!!

[saviem]

andrew.s:
another one for you robert-cant believe i forgot to add this!!
my fathers bedford TM 3250
this was a detroit v6 example (dont let the single axle trailer fool you lol)
it sounded absolutely lovely,and the old man really liked it and got very good value out of it.
this deffo had a nine speed fuller
pictured here loaded with 16 tons of egyptian spuds from newhaven docks in 1984 ish0yes that is my father in the picture with his white “miami vice” shoes and some red rope holding his trousers up !!! he is now a sprightly 76 years old,and i never let him forget about how he is dressed in this pic

Evening all, andrew nothing at all wrong with your fathers dress sense!!..and he is a tad younger than me!!

Now young Robert1952, perhaps a lesson in Egyptian potatoe production would be in order…

No, they are not grown in a bed of humanities efluvia…contrary to EU propaganda…

The biggest markets are Russia, (and the East), for the “big” ones, and the EU for the “juicy” little ones.

Main areas of cultivation…the "narrow " Nile Delta, followed by the irregated Sahara Which is subject to chronic wind erosion, yet the once heavily forested ground has just the correct properties to grow such delicious varieties as , (my favourite), Vivaldi

There used to be a massive "Chip factory in Cairo…was it “FritLay”, used to deal with Al P hrhraana, who then shipped out to the EU via Alat GMBH, to the EU. Took most of the production of the Bellini, (soft once boiled), and Annabelle, (hard on the pallet), but a great fried chip…and sadly made up with the delicious Vivaldi…every bit as grand as the composer of the same name!!

Cannot fault the Egyptian farmers, b…y good cultivators. Produced good spuds, and with good weight in them…

So andrew a single axle would be onits limit with that load…and never laugh at your old mans dress, for if you had seen how I dressed as the “architypical” Englishman back in the 60s when exploring the depths of Southern Europe…well one would respect that “we” kept our end up!!!

And he had a “big” power motor!!

Cheerio for now.

[robert1952]

Cheers Saviem! I can vouch for the quality of the Egyptian potato, as I eat them almost daily; washed down with (albeit processed) Nile water! Robert

[newmercman]

So what’s the expert opinion on the yellow flesh tuber then?

They make great mash, but terrible chips is my finding.

Over here in Canada we have a choice between red, white or Russett, the Russett makes for a reasonable all rounder, the red not bad for roasting.

I used to favour the King Edward back home, but they don’t do them here.

[saviem]

newmercman:
So what’s the expert opinion on the yellow flesh tuber then?

They make great mash, but terrible chips is my finding.

Over here in Canada we have a choice between red, white or Russett, the Russett makes for a reasonable all rounder, the red not bad for roasting.

I used to favour the King Edward back home, but they don’t do them here.

Hello Mark, hope that things are good for you.

Canadian spuds…well Im frankly cream Crackered…but,

If you try you should still get the (dream spud), Vivaldi…

But Yukon Gold, are a good substitute, but a bit flat on the profile of the Tuba…

Canadian producers seem to favour the Ranger Russett…low on flavour…but big on bulk!

Local shops should still get you “Lady Christie”,.nice spud, I think new to the Canadian market around 2010…but the North Americans love the Caesers…great as chips…but try for the little Accents…sweet, and great with a Steak…firm, but so sweet!
Big volume growers go for Van Gough, and Valor…(best left to the US pallet)!

But go for Vivaldi…and forget those indegestable King Edwards…

Oh and all are taken from the fields pulled by a variety of KWs, Petes, Internationals, and Fords, with Fuller 9 speeds…

Im away to bed with a large Bollinger…

Adios…

Cheerio for now…(and Ive taken a personal gamble and planted a fair few acres with Vivaldi this time…)

[ubym344]

andrew.s:
another one for you robert-cant believe i forgot to add this!!
my fathers bedford TM 3250
this was a detroit v6 example (dont let the single axle trailer fool you lol)
it sounded absolutely lovely,and the old man really liked it and got very good value out of it.
this deffo had a nine speed fuller
pictured here loaded with 16 tons of egyptian spuds from newhaven docks in 1984 ish0yes that is my father in the picture with his white “miami vice” shoes and some red rope holding his trousers up !!! he is now a sprightly 76 years old,and i never let him forget about how he is dressed in this pic

this may sound stupid bit does anyone know why bedfords made a narrow cab and a full width cab, I thought the narrow cab looked odd, was it to do with the unladen weight or something similar, fredm

[robert1952]

ubym344:

andrew.s:
another one for you robert-cant believe i forgot to add this!!
my fathers bedford TM 3250
this was a detroit v6 example (dont let the single axle trailer fool you lol)
it sounded absolutely lovely,and the old man really liked it and got very good value out of it.
this deffo had a nine speed fuller
pictured here loaded with 16 tons of egyptian spuds from newhaven docks in 1984 ish0yes that is my father in the picture with his white “miami vice” shoes and some red rope holding his trousers up !!! he is now a sprightly 76 years old,and i never let him forget about how he is dressed in this pic

this may sound stupid bit does anyone know why bedfords made a narrow cab and a full width cab, I thought the narrow cab looked odd, was it to do with the unladen weight or something similar, fredm

I’d like to know the answer to that question too! And it wasn’t only Bedford: MAN did it, Merc did it, Iveco did it, Leyland did it… Robert

[newmercman]

Payload, cost, maneuverability.

[robert1952]

Thanks Newmercman!

Ubym mentions the oddness of the Bedford, and I agree that most narrow cabbed versions of units appear less than flattering; but in the case of Iveco’s Euro range, I’d say that the narrow cab version was visually more pleasing - the Eurotech was much better proportioned than the Eurostar and sat more snugly in the chassis in my opinion. Robert

[fryske]

robert1952:
Thanks Newmercman!

Ubym mentions the oddness of the Bedford, and I agree that most narrow cabbed versions of units appear less than flattering; but in the case of Iveco’s Euro range, I’d say that the narrow cab version was visually more pleasing - the Eurotech was much better proportioned than the Eurostar and sat more snugly in the chassis in my opinion. Robert

The narrow T45 Leyland cab looks better in my opinion too

[robert1952]

[robert1952]

Dan Punchard posted this fine example of a unit with a 9-speed Fuller and ■■■■■■■ L10:250 on the Ford Cargo thread. Unbelievably, this is the only photo of a Cargo tractive unit I have yet seen that is known to have a Fuller 9 'box. This is what I meant in my preamble to the thread: we have to show photo evidence of our claims for the next cohort of lorryists!! Thank you Dan. Robert

[sdg1970]

robert1952:
Dan Punchard posted this fine example of a unit with a 9-speed Fuller and ■■■■■■■ L10:250 on the Ford Cargo thread. Unbelievably, this is the only photo of a Cargo tractive unit I have yet seen that is known to have a Fuller 9 'box. This is what I meant in my preamble to the thread: we have to show photo evidence of our claims for the next cohort of lorryists!! Thank you Dan. Robert

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Here’s some photo’s of the box in my Cargo unit which I put some info on further up the thread. Fuller 9 (RT11609a) with a ■■■■■■■ LTA-10 290:

This one has covered just 136000 kilometres since new (1989).

[andrew_s]

i’ve always had a big soft spot for the Cargo,
i know lots of people didnt like them ,but i’ve driven lots and lots of them from 7.5 ton tippers upwards,always found them very easy to drive,and almost indestructable .headlights were dreadful though!! passed my test in one aswell only driven one with a nine speed fuller box in the yard as it was blocking me in,but would have been quite content to take it out !!
much better than the poxy euro cargo replacement…