if i was the Md of this operation , First thing i would be looking at is what drove my employee to such drastic measures…
could it happen again ?,Are my drivers being pushed to the limit? , am i employing competent planners… If anything is out of place lets put a plan in place THEN DEAL WITH THE INCIDENT…SOMETHING AINT RIGHT
Carryfast:
eagerbeaver:
A good stiff spine is something to behold. IF he was told that nights away from base are paid & he manages to get home, then pay the man.If not, then hauliers deserve everything they get in my view. Hopefully he left the lines on too.
Nights away from base are paid ‘expenses’ in the form of night out money.The job meant he could get home in this case instead.Don’t get your logic.
Carryfast… Somebody with (a lot of) time will explain the concept of a ‘dodgy’ night out to you.
If you argue with that person, you’ll come a cropper and your bat soup will go cold.
Is this classed as leaving the industry with a bang.
Be a while before he gets another job behind a lorry wheel.
Carryfast:
dieseldave:
As for dropping a trailer on its knees in the way and for the reason shown… I’m missing how that achieves anything.I know from experience it can achieve something when a recalcitrant East Anglian yard shunter is dropping the trailers silly high with the legs wound into the ground I’d guessed deliberately.Meaning having to wind a heavy trailer down in crawler every night.
Even better when they phoned our guvnor moaning and he said you drop yours at the right height in the yard for collection and we’ll do the same for you with the one we’re dropping.Those without steel suspension knowledge won’t understand that argument and standoff.
I think you might have missed the “dropping a trailer on its knees in the way and for the reason shown” bit.
I understand your point because I also have experience of steel suspension on both units and trailers, but I don’t get how that point (or an East Anglian yard shunter Vs your guvnor) is in any way relevant to what we saw on the linked film footage.
BTW, that’s just an observation, not a request for an explanation.
Blimey, I’m glad I got that last line in before the topic got the full Carryfast 19-page diversion.
Apart from watching the video and taking “his” version of events, none (or at least 99% of us) actually know the full circumstances around the events here.
Its highly likely he was being a total and unreasonable **** over a £25 night out payment with his actions, however we don’t actually know the full story.
The mistake this guy has made here is posting a video online stating his intentions to “deliberately” drop the trailer. Potentially leaving himself open to being done for criminal damage, negligence etc.
There must be somebody on here who knows him, or knows of him?
If he wanted to get one over his firm if they’ve ■■■■■■ him off, there are far better ways and means than that (so I’m told ).
Tbf if he arrived in his home town, where he presumably usually parks,.and with 20mins left, why did he expect to be paid a n/o anyway?
I know the Jenky depot local to me don’t pay nights out at home, and tbf why would they?
Why tf did he not lose those 20 mins on his way back up, so his time was up, if he was that desperate for 25 quid, it ain’t difficult.
Sounds like he’s got issues does that guy, and he’s sure as hell going to be unemployable after this.
Don’t know Jenkies what there like to work for etc but he said he’s
parked at home before a few times,has the gaffer warned him before but just paid him and said don’t do it again? And he’s carried on talking the mick?
Seems the sort of guy with an attitude that “I’ll do as I want”…
Really stupid filming it,back of unit probably gunna need new light clusters speed it went down too.
As it’s already been pointed out,What would he do if someone cut him up
dieseldave:
Carryfast:
Nights away from base are paid ‘expenses’ in the form of night out money.The job meant he could get home in this case instead.Don’t get your logic.Carryfast… Somebody with (a lot of) time will explain the concept of a ‘dodgy’ night out to you.
If you argue with that person, you’ll come a cropper and your bat soup will go cold.
Let’s get this right.
I get home from a job.Park the wagon at the yard ? no need for a night out.
But I still expect the guvnor to pay me the night out money.
He refuses.You know because he knows there was no night out because I brought the wagon back to the yard after my run.Or he just found out I got home anyway even if not.
I destroy/set fire to the truck in retaliation.
Now I get it.
What could possibly go wrong.
Your boss refuses to pay you night out money. Face him like a man instead of dropping a trailer to top it all you film yourself vandalising company property. This guy has a screw loose. I hope he never drives again he is a ■■■■■■ imagine if a car cuts him up. He will probably ram it.
robroy:
There must be somebody on here who knows him, or knows of him?
If he wanted to get one over his firm if they’ve ■■■■■■ him off, there are far better ways and means than that (so I’m told ).
Tbf if he arrived in his home town, where he presumably usually parks,.and with 20mins left, why did he expect to be paid a n/o anyway?
I know the Jenky depot local to me don’t pay nights out at home, and tbf why would they?Why tf did he not lose those 20 mins on his way back up, so his time was up, if he was that desperate for 25 quid, it ain’t difficult.
Sounds like he’s got issues does that guy, and he’s sure as hell going to be unemployable after this.
Exactly that ^. It’s hardly 5000 IQ is it? It seems pretty clear he wanted to have his cake and eat it. I reckon we’re all guilty of dodgy night-outs, especially back in the day before trackers . You don’t whine when you get caught.
eagerbeaver:
A good stiff spine is something to behold. IF he was told that nights away from base are paid & he manages to get home, then pay the man.
Is it? Would you like the complete story? Apparently from someone who works with him he lives in Wallsall. He has a run where he is supposed to tip at Stoke on Trent but drives past there to near his home, stays at home then runs back up to Stoke on Trent the following morning. Apparently he’s done this a fair few times and been told.
A stiff spine is something to behold but only when the person is actually in the right and hasn’t been taking the mick like this kid has.
Conor:
eagerbeaver:
A good stiff spine is something to behold. IF he was told that nights away from base are paid & he manages to get home, then pay the man.Is it? Would you like the complete story? Apparently from someone who works with him he lives in Wallsall. He has a run where he is supposed to tip at Stoke on Trent but drives past there to near his home, stays at home then runs back up to Stoke on Trent the following morning. Apparently he’s done this a fair few times and been told.
A stiff spine is something to behold but only when the person is actually in the right and hasn’t been taking the mick like this kid has.
On the first page you are asking on here if anyone knows who the guy is.
On the second page you are telling us all information about the chap & even details about his run What’s worse…losing your cool & dropping a trl on it’s knee’s, or stalking strangers to satisfy your big nose?
To throw your job and livelihood away in the current climate is a new kind of stupid
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R420:
You don’t whine when you get caught.
There’s the difference:- “Wisdom comes with Age”. And experience…
Hope when the company sue for deliberate criminal damage, and i’m certain they will because he’s supplied all the proof needed, that too gets posted.
Not that clear from the video, did the legs collapse so the trailer went all the way down, loaded? because if that drop bent the chassis and/or cracked the body the costs to fix could well be more than the trailer’s worth.
Good on him I say
SuperMultiBlue:
Good on him I say
Apparently he has got previous with this type of behaviour
Jenks didn’t do their “due diligence” when he applied, as previous employers had warned them he was a complete arsewipe….
SuperMultiBlue:
Good on him I say
Really, why?
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Sumsmeister:
R420:
You don’t whine when you get caught.There’s the difference:- “Wisdom comes with Age”. And experience…
Exactly right!
I can be the most arsey ■■■■ around if I feel I’m being taken the ■■■■ out of at work or unfairly treated, and as I said there are ways and means…‘Winning but appearing to lose’ is my life motto, that way everybody is happy, … but this guy is a bit naive…to say the least!
Even I would not even DREAM of doing any (even covert) damage to a firm’s truck or equipment, however ■■■■■■ off I may be, let alone to be as thick and stupid as to do something as serious as that …AND put it out on social media
Wtf was he thinking?
Love to think somebody has given him the heads up about this forum, to show him what his fellow drivers think what an absolute ■■■■ this guy is.
Wonder if he regrets it.
Stanley Mitchell:
SuperMultiBlue:
Good on him I sayApparently he has got previous with this type of behaviour
Jenks didn’t do their “due diligence” when he applied, as previous employers had warned them he was a complete arsewipe….
Why do companies do this, there was a ‘character’ around the transporter game a few years ago, as much use as a chocolate teapot, always ■■■■■■■ about always wrecking stuff a liability and a dangerous one to anyone in his vicinity, so much damage did he cause it had to be at least partly deliberate, something not quite right in the head.
Chap i know asked two of his most trusted drivers about him when he applied for a job…don’t touch him with a bargepole was the immediate reply (if he’d asked me i’d have said the same), i couldn’t believe it when they told me he’d took the bloke on regardless, about three weeks and some £30k’s worth of known damage later he got shut, another employer i know had damage amounting to well over £100k for another bloke who it was blindingly obvious would never be a lorry driver as long as he had a hole in his arse.
The only good that comes out of such episodes, and i’m a believer that fools like this actually do the inept management of some companies a bit of good, in that it makes them appreciate the decent people that work for them, for a while anyway.