DEANB:
Anyone remember Munn & Underwood who were vehicle distributors and repairers.One of there letters from 1949 to a company called Hatley’s at Chandlers Ford who looks like they were involved in the timber trade.
Click on page twice to read.
The Hatley family owned Brooklyn Engineering Works in Hursley Rd & at that time were machine tool merchants,machinery makers & iron & metal merchants & by the late 50’s /early 60’s dealt in ex military vehicles specialising in 4x4 vehicles ( Champs/Land Rovers.)They had a thriving market in exporting LR parts & eventually Brooklyn Engineering works Ltd became Brooklyn 4x4 Ltd & later moved moved to Romsey Rd,Nursling.
roolechat:
DEANB:
Anyone remember Munn & Underwood who were vehicle distributors and repairers.One of there letters from 1949 to a company called Hatley’s at Chandlers Ford who looks like they were involved in the timber trade.
Click on page twice to read.
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The Hatley family owned Brooklyn Engineering Works in Hursley Rd & at that time were machine tool merchants,machinery makers & iron & metal merchants & by the late 50’s /early 60’s dealt in ex military vehicles specialising in 4x4 vehicles ( Champs/Land Rovers.)They had a thriving market in exporting LR parts & eventually Brooklyn Engineering works Ltd became Brooklyn 4x4 Ltd & later moved moved to Romsey Rd,Nursling.
Chris
Brooklyn 4x4 have now moved to Whiteparish
Jeremy
Badger:
roolechat:
DEANB:
Anyone remember Munn & Underwood who were vehicle distributors and repairers.One of there letters from 1949 to a company called Hatley’s at Chandlers Ford who looks like they were involved in the timber trade.
Click on page twice to read.
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The Hatley family owned Brooklyn Engineering Works in Hursley Rd & at that time were machine tool merchants,machinery makers & iron & metal merchants & by the late 50’s /early 60’s dealt in ex military vehicles specialising in 4x4 vehicles ( Champs/Land Rovers.)They had a thriving market in exporting LR parts & eventually Brooklyn Engineering works Ltd became Brooklyn 4x4 Ltd & later moved moved to Romsey Rd,Nursling.Chris
Brooklyn 4x4 have now moved to Whiteparish
Jeremy
Didn’t Brooklyn engineering get bought out by SHB 4x4 hire which in turn has now been bought out by enterprise ?
Spardo:
OldishJoda:
I think if I remember rightly Jameson had one of the first round fronted Scania into the UK approx 1964… I might be wrong but !Do you mean the first Scania Vabises? The first one I saw was loading alongside me at Kelloggs, Trafford Park which would be about 1970/71 after I came back from Oz. That was black and white but I don’t remember any name on it. Thought it was the bees’ knees with its great big white steering wheel. Very cool.
Springfield transport were from Trafford Park David,they were black and white and loaded out of Kellogg’s,just a thought.
David
5thwheel:
Spardo:
OldishJoda:
I think if I remember rightly Jameson had one of the first round fronted Scania into the UK approx 1964… I might be wrong but !Do you mean the first Scania Vabises? The first one I saw was loading alongside me at Kelloggs, Trafford Park which would be about 1970/71 after I came back from Oz. That was black and white but I don’t remember any name on it. Thought it was the bees’ knees with its great big white steering wheel. Very cool.
Springfield transport were from Trafford Park David,they were black and white and loaded out of Kellogg’s,just a thought.
David
Quite possibly, that name rings a bell though, did they advertise backloads in the Headlight perhaps?
OldishJoda:
I think if I remember rightly Jameson had one of the first round fronted Scania into the UK approx 1964… I might be wrong but !
Unless Scania had a concessionaires before 1966 then it would have been later as Scania never entered the UK market until 1966.
Volvo had one here in the 1950s.
It was probably this 1967 one you saw on a “E” reg. 
Spardo:
I don’t know them but I did call in once at another Bedford firm, one who specialised in international heavy haulage, can’t remember the name now though. Nothing doing so I carried on south and ended up later with a job at White Trux after my visit there.
I imagine that was European Plant Haul from Bedford. They were big Volvo users but maybe run Scanias early on ?
DEANB:
Spardo:
I don’t know them but I did call in once at another Bedford firm, one who specialised in international heavy haulage, can’t remember the name now though. Nothing doing so I carried on south and ended up later with a job at White Trux after my visit there.
I imagine that was European Plant Haul from Bedford. They were big Volvo users but maybe run Scanias early on ?
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Yes, they’re the ones Dean but I wasn’t thinking of them as Scania users as I do remember the Volvos.
Spardo:
Yes, they’re the ones Dean but I wasn’t thinking of them as Scania users as I do remember the Volvos.
OK
The Joker.
Franglais yes that is a young Wally Hawkins. Gazzer I spoke with Charlie 1 and he did drive a Volvo for jamesons. 
gerbil sb152:
Franglais yes that is a young Wally Hawkins. Gazzer I spoke with Charlie 1 and he did drive a Volvo for jamesons.
Ta. I guess the topic was common for many drivers, not just him.
Back-handers, expenses,…trust…
I`ll shut up. 
Franglais:
gerbil sb152:
Franglais yes that is a young Wally Hawkins. Gazzer I spoke with Charlie 1 and he did drive a Volvo for jamesons.Ta. I guess the topic was common for many drivers, not just him.
Back-handers, expenses,…trust…I`ll shut up.
He mentioned a bottle of whisky in that clip which brought memories back, I did some loads for Skillbeech which consisted of two layers of fluoressent light tubes on pallets which made it over height for the Blanc tunnel, always got a bottle of Scotch on the boat and when arriving to go through the pipe normally around midnight as it was quieter then would park and walk over to the pay booth and signal the height, pass the whisky over and he would turn off the warning hooter this way you avoided an ■■■■■■ which cost about 25% of the cost of a normal fee and an elongated wait to boot, Buzzer
Buzzer:
Franglais:
gerbil sb152:
Franglais yes that is a young Wally Hawkins. Gazzer I spoke with Charlie 1 and he did drive a Volvo for jamesons.Ta. I guess the topic was common for many drivers, not just him.
Back-handers, expenses,…trust…I`ll shut up.
He mentioned a bottle of whisky in that clip which brought memories back, I did some loads for Skillbeech which consisted of two layers of fluoressent light tubes on pallets which made it over height for the Blanc tunnel, always got a bottle of Scotch on the boat and when arriving to go through the pipe normally around midnight as it was quieter then would park and walk over to the pay booth and signal the height, pass the whisky over and he would turn off the warning hooter this way you avoided an ■■■■■■ which cost about 25% of the cost of a normal fee and an elongated wait to boot, Buzzer
The current Mrs. Spardo, but back in '84 the future Mrs.S., used to accompany me on our trips to Italy for White Trux. She was a very fit (in both senses of the word) 40 something and always made sure to wear tight jeans and a ■■■■■■■■■■■ woollen jumper. At Aosta, I would pull up beforehand, hide in the bunk, and allow her to drive in for the check. She only had to walk in and smile in order for all papers to be immediately stamped, doors held open and bows scraped for us to proceed with no money or anything else changing hands.
I see that smile again, now and then, despite the ravages that vascular dementia have wrought, and the other day searching through her wardrobe for different clothes to dress her in, I found that jumper. As you say, John, objects that bring memories back.
Spardo:
5thwheel:
Spardo:
OldishJoda:
I think if I remember rightly Jameson had one of the first round fronted Scania into the UK approx 1964… I might be wrong but !Do you mean the first Scania Vabises? The first one I saw was loading alongside me at Kelloggs, Trafford Park which would be about 1970/71 after I came back from Oz. That was black and white but I don’t remember any name on it. Thought it was the bees’ knees with its great big white steering wheel. Very cool.
Springfield transport were from Trafford Park David,they were black and white and loaded out of Kellogg’s,just a thought.
David
Quite possibly, that name rings a bell though, did they advertise backloads in the Headlight perhaps?
Yes they did David.
David
DEANB:
Anyone remember Munn & Underwood who were vehicle distributors and repairers.Munn & Underwood Ltd date back to the early 20th century and though probably better known for their car sales, they were an important commercial vehicle distributor.
M&U supplied many Foden DGs in the 1930/40sChristopher Hill Ltd,Poole
In 1948, Foden launched their FG range with the S18 cab & M&U took many orders but post war shortages & limited Foden manufacturing capacity resulted in lengthy lead times.M& U supplied Hampshire County Council Roads & Bridges dept with a batch of Foden FG tippers
GOR 881 entered service with HCC in June 1948In 1953, M&U supplied HCC Weights & Measures dept with a FG 6 SWB 6 wheeler tipper chassis with a Streetly Productions body which enabled the vehicle to offload & reload up to 12 t of weights for weighbridge calibration & certification.
An identical vehicle in service with Worcestershire County CouncilSouthern Counties Agricultural Trading Society (SCATS) were another Foden customer of M&U, ordering both FG 6 & 8 wheelers.
Foden 6 wheeled tipper at Andover silo
FG6/15 supplied to SCATS in May 1951South Western Tar Distillers Ltd (SWTD)
M&U supplied SWTD with Fodens for many years including 18 FGs in the early 50’s
South Western Tar Distillers Ltd (SWTD)
M&U delivered 16 FG6/7.5 chassis which were fitted with 1250 gall tank bodies & operated with 1000 gall drawbar tanks.
One of two FG 6/15s supplied in March 1950.
SWTD JOR 853 supplied in Sept 1951
roolechat:
DEANB:
Anyone remember Munn & Underwood who were vehicle distributors and repairers.Munn & Underwood Ltd date back to the early 20th century and though probably better known for their car sales, they were an important commercial vehicle distributor.
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M&U supplied many Foden DGs in the 1930/40sChristopher Hill Ltd,Poole
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In 1948, Foden launched their FG range with the S18 cab & M&U took many orders but post war shortages & limited Foden manufacturing capacity resulted in lengthy lead times.M& U supplied Hampshire County Council Roads & Bridges dept with a batch of Foden FG tippers
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GOR 881 entered service with HCC in June 1948In 1953, M&U supplied HCC Weights & Measures dept with a FG 6 SWB 6 wheeler tipper chassis with a Streetly Productions body which enabled the vehicle to offload & reload up to 12 t of weights for weighbridge calibration & certification.
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An identical vehicle in service with Worcestershire County CouncilSouthern Counties Agricultural Trading Society (SCATS) were another Foden customer of M&U, ordering both FG 6 & 8 wheelers.
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Foden 6 wheeled tipper at Andover silo
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FG6/15 supplied to SCATS in May 1951South Western Tar Distillers Ltd (SWTD)
M&U supplied SWTD with Fodens for many years including 18 FGs in the early 50’s
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South Western Tar Distillers Ltd (SWTD)
M&U delivered 16 FG6/7.5 chassis which were fitted with 1250 gall tank bodies & operated with 1000 gall drawbar tanks.
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One of two FG 6/15s supplied in March 1950.
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SWTD JOR 853 supplied in Sept 1951
There apears to be a limit(10) to the number of photographs which can downloaded onto this site in one go, so Munn & Underwood part 2 & 3 will have to follow
roolechat:
roolechat:
DEANB:
Anyone remember Munn & Underwood who were vehicle distributors and repairers.There apears to be a limit(10) to the number of photographs which can downloaded onto this site at one time, so Munn & Underwood part 2 & 3 will have to follow
Within the Portsmouth area, M&U customers included Brickwoods Brewery (DG’s - both 4 wheelers with drawbars & 8 wheelers) with ‘Beer Is Best’ displayed in large white letters on their grilles )
And Southern Gas Board (SGB)
The Portsmouth, Gosport & Bognor Regis Gas Company purchased 4 & 6 wheeled DG’s from M&U in the late 30’s. In May 1949, as a consequence of The 1948 Gas Act, The Portsmouth, Gosport & Bognor Regis Gas Co were one of the 1062 gas companies absorbed into the 12 newly created gas boards becoming the Portsmouth district of the Southern Gas Board .Despite a lengthy waiting list, an order was placed with M&U for 10 new 6 & 8 wheeled FG tipping chassis to meet the insatiable demand for coking coal from the SGB’s Portsmouth sub district Gas plants located at Hilsea, Gosport, Bognor Regis & Chichester.
In 1950, FBK 308 was the first of the 6 8wheelers to enter service .Sparshatts built the light alloy body which weighed under 1 ton (Note twin wipers)
FTP 71. The run from Flathouse Wharf (later Flathouse Quay) to Hilsea Gas Works was only a 5 mile round trip, but 10 loads per vehicle per day was the requirement. With the lightweight Sparshatt body, a 20 gall fuel tank & the removal of the cab passenger seat,(& the n/s wiper !) a 15t payload of coal could legally be carried within the 22t gross limit.
Because of the delay in delivering new chassis, M&U arranged for some of the 1930’s DG vehicles to be overhauled by Fodens at Sandbach .With new S18 cabs, they were then fitted with new Sparshatt bodies
New to The Portsmouth, Gosport & Bognor Regis Gas Company in April 1937,this DG model was sent to Sandbach for overhaul & fitted with a new S18 cab –but only one wiper !.
Pilot tipping gear & a Sparshatt 23 cu yd body was standard on the 8 wheelers
After 14 years service, RV7689 a DG model from 1936 was refurbished at Sandbach & with new Sparshatt body re entered service in 1950.
The 6 wheelers were used for runs from Flathouse to the gas works at Gosport, Bognor Regis & Chichester.
Though the customer facing fleet of vehicles quickly assumed the orange SGB livery, all the FG Fodens wore the pleasant P.G.BR.livery of Napier Green with black wings ,the only concession being the replacement of the lighthouse logo on the doors with a ‘GAS’ logo.
In Aug 1950, M&U delivered KLJ 279 –a Sparshatt bodied FG- to the former Bournemouth Gas & Water Company by then ,part of the Bournemouth district of the Southern Gas Board. It’s carrying the ‘Gloco’ advertisement on the body sides & the Mr Therm logo on the cab doors.
roolechat:
roolechat:
roolechat:
DEANB:
Anyone remember Munn & Underwood who were vehicle distributors and repairers.There apears to be a limit(10) to the number of photographs which can downloaded onto this site at one time, so Munn & Underwood part 2 & 3 will have to follow
Within the Portsmouth area, M&U customers included Brickwoods Brewery (DG’s - both 4 wheelers with drawbars & 8 wheelers) with ‘Beer Is Best’ displayed in large white letters on their grilles )
And Southern Gas Board (SGB)
The Portsmouth, Gosport & Bognor Regis Gas Company purchased 4 & 6 wheeled DG’s from M&U in the late 30’s. In May 1949, as a consequence of The 1948 Gas Act, The Portsmouth, Gosport & Bognor Regis Gas Co were one of the 1062 gas companies absorbed into the 12 newly created gas boards becoming the Portsmouth district of the Southern Gas Board .Despite a lengthy waiting list, an order was placed with M&U for 10 new 6 & 8 wheeled FG tipping chassis to meet the insatiable demand for coking coal from the SGB’s Portsmouth sub district Gas plants located at Hilsea, Gosport, Bognor Regis & Chichester.
In 1950, FBK 308 was the first of the 6 8wheelers to enter service .Sparshatts built the light alloy body which weighed under 1 ton (Note twin wipers)
Looking across Commercial Road to the M&U site in 1975 in temporary use by an exhaust company,prior to it becoming Texas Homecare DIY store. The site was eventually flattened becoming the new HQ of the Marine & Coastguard Agency
The name of Munn & Underwood had been consigned to history.Munn & Underwood continued to supply Foden vehicles throughout the later 50’s & early 60’s but also took on the Guy distributorship (They had various other dealerships in their portfolio including Trojan vans)
FTP 71. The run from Flathouse Wharf (later Flathouse Quay) to Hilsea Gas Works was only a 5 mile round trip, but 10 loads per vehicle per day was the requirement. With the lightweight Sparshatt body, a 20 gall fuel tank & the removal of the cab passenger seat,(& the n/s wiper !) a 15t payload of coal could legally be carried within the 22t gross limit.
Because of the delay in delivering new chassis, M&U arranged for some of the 1930’s DG vehicles to be overhauled by Fodens at Sandbach .With new S18 cabs, they were then fitted with new Sparshatt bodiesNew to The Portsmouth, Gosport & Bognor Regis Gas Company in April 1937,this DG model was sent to Sandbach for overhaul & fitted with a new S18 cab –but only one wiper !.
Pilot tipping gear & a Sparshatt 23 cu yd body was standard on the 8 wheelers
After 14 years service, RV7689 a DG model from 1936 was refurbished at Sandbach & with new Sparshatt body re entered service in 1950.
The 6 wheelers were used for runs from Flathouse to the gas works at Gosport, Bognor Regis & Chichester.
Though the customer facing fleet of vehicles quickly assumed the orange SGB livery, all the FG Fodens wore the pleasant P.G.BR.livery of Napier Green with black wings ,the only concession being the replacement of the lighthouse logo on the doors with a ‘GAS’ logo.In Aug 1950, M&U delivered KLJ 279 –a Sparshatt bodied FG- to the former Bournemouth Gas & Water Company by then ,part of the Bournemouth district of the Southern Gas Board. It’s carrying the ‘Gloco’ advertisement on the body sides & the Mr Therm logo on the cab doors.
Munn & Underwood continued to supply Foden vehicles throughout the later 50’s & early 60’s but also took on the Guy distributorship (They had various other dealerships in their portfolio including Trojan vans)
In 1959, Victory Transport had a specific requirement for vehicles capable of carrying 17tons. ,Munn & Underwood were able to provide Guy Warrior light 8s with AEC AV470 engines & Eaton 2 speed axles which were able to carry just over 17t though when laden to 24t GVW they were somewhat underpowered.
M&U supplied WHO 305 in Sept 1959
It featured in a Guy Motors advertisement at the time
WHO 305 London 1962
WHO 877 Rownhams 1964 loaded for Newcastle with new crane jib sections
Munn & Underwood had been part of the Wadham group for many years & by the time the Guy Big J was launched in 1965, the name of Munn & Underwood had disappeared, being replaced by the Wadham name as part of the Wadham group standardisation . Many Big J’s were sold & serviced at the Commercial Rd premises as Wadham Stringer, but with the rationalisation within British Leyland-both car & commercial vehicles,Wadhams decided the site was unprofitable & eventually the premises were sold. Texas Homecare, opened a DIY store but later the area was demolished to make way for the current Marine & Coastguard Agency HQ.
