But when you get it wrong then you have big problems like this bloke, fair play to the strength of tautliners curtains they are holding just how long for is anyones guess
Doesnt look to be many straps on it does there?
Horrible load for a curtain. Trying to get straps under the roof with not much room is never easy. Them you get tempted to skimp on the number of straps and that’s the result.
He may have used straps with cuts in them or knots, or as the truck moved from the loading point the tension on the straps became lose.
That’s got nothing to do with lack of strapping, it’s clearly a single bundle of tubes on top of two ‘floor stowed’ bundles & the ‘skids’ underneth the top ‘single’ bundle have failed, leaving the top bundle to drop in between the two on the floor, pushing them apart & out through the sides of the trailer!!
C’mon then all you elfin safety know alls, how many straps would have prevented this from happening?
Ross.
Can’t wait 
bigr250:
That’s got nothing to do with lack of strapping, it’s clearly a single bundle of tubes on top of two ‘floor stowed’ bundles & the ‘skids’ underneth the top ‘single’ bundle have failed, leaving the top bundle to drop in between the two on the floor, pushing them apart & out through the sides of the trailer!!C’mon then all you elfin safety know alls, how many straps would have prevented this from happening?
Ross.
Can’t wait
If what you say is correct, then surely the bundles on the floor should have been strapped “BEFORE” the top bundle is loaded. Wouldn’t that have stopped the top bundle making the bottom two move apart and then slipping through a gap.
BTW not being an ''elf 'n safety know-it-all" I would think that probably 4 ratchets, strategically placed would have stopped this.
bigr250:
That’s got nothing to do with lack of strapping, it’s clearly a single bundle of tubes on top of two ‘floor stowed’ bundles & the ‘skids’ underneth the top ‘single’ bundle have failed, leaving the top bundle to drop in between the two on the floor, pushing them apart & out through the sides of the trailer!!C’mon then all you elfin safety know alls, how many straps would have prevented this from happening?
Ross.
Can’t wait
I agree with you I don’t think strapping would have stopped that load moving. I think it’s one of the bottom packs that have failed. so even strapping the bottom first might not have stopped it.
But the load has moved so there is a load security problem, the design of the pack might be at fault.
I think the only reason this load hasn’t come off the truck is due to the poles holding the roof (them Poles get everywhere 
)as it’s a Euroliner not a curtainsider.
pierrot 14:
If what you say is correct, then surely the bundles on the floor should have been strapped “BEFORE” the top bundle is loaded. Wouldn’t that have stopped the top bundle making the bottom two move apart and then slipping through a gap.
BTW not being an ''elf 'n safety know-it-all" I would think that probably 4 ratchets, strategically placed would have stopped this.
I have to admit, you’re absolutely ‘on the money’ there, the only way that your plan could go wrong is if the skids failed & the top one dropped in between the bottom two, it could cause the straps on the lower bundles to fail and the above could still happen?
Ross.
Well maybe my theory and maybe more than my idea of 4 ratchets then
Looking at that photo was wondering why the pipes on the lower bundles had only come out one side, thinking surely the boards would have given way on both the near and off sides, then on a closer look, I noticed that on the side that they have stayed put, the ends of the pipes are actually against the rear pillar, which I’m sure would’ve helped.
I bet also that will have cost the haulier a pretty heavy fine, then there’s the charge to reload it, then of course the cost of repairing the trailer. Oh well as the old saying goes ■■■■ happens"
If the bottom bundles where strapped first it couldnt happen, if it was in a mans trailer it wouldnt have either euroliners are gay tilts rule end of…
That is exactly why loads need strapping, forget drivers saying my curtains are loadbearing. That is true, however the cant rail and rear header is not.
There maybe four or five 10mm bolts or rivets holding the whole load in, the ones at the top of the door pillar.
It looks like the right hand bundle has collapsed but stayed in because of the pillar which has forced everything else off to the left. I’ve unloaded a load of these off ships and the skids (dunnage) were forever breaking.
bigr250:
That’s got nothing to do with lack of strapping, it’s clearly a single bundle of tubes on top of two ‘floor stowed’ bundles & the ‘skids’ underneth the top ‘single’ bundle have failed, leaving the top bundle to drop in between the two on the floor, pushing them apart & out through the sides of the trailer!!C’mon then all you elfin safety know alls, how many straps would have prevented this from happening?
Ross.
Can’t wait
Flat trailer and goal posts
Tilt
Wheel Nut:
That is exactly why loads need strapping, forget drivers saying my curtains are loadbearing.
even the curtains, that have been certified as “loadbearing” only work on palletized goods that have been loaded wall to wall. not loads like these by far
I think that, what looks like dunnage is in fact side boards.
There is one along the bottom edge of the trailer and the end of a side board sticking out half way up the curtain. There doesn’t seem to be enough of them either.
From this one pic there isn’t really enough information to make a reasonable assessment.
However, from what little there is to see, those look like hexagonal packs.
Two on the bottom and one on top.
I’m not sure what material the pipes are made of, but they are only banded with what looks like nylon bands, so they are probably not metal pipes, only plastic. Which is why the curtain and pole have held them. Steel pipes would, I think, be too heavy.
It looks like the right hand bottom pack has collapsed, which would let the top pack roll that way, so it’s then leaning on the left pack. A European motorway slip road curve or roundabout would then be enough to slide the left pack out.
IF the banding on that right hand pack failed first, no amount of strapping would have stopped this happening. As soon as that pack collapsed, all straps would have become loose. Straps rely on the load being solid. If they loaded the bottom two packs and strapped those, then loaded one on top, all the straps would still come loose as soon as that pack collapsed. With or without cross timbers/skids/dunnage (whatever you want to call it) on top of those two bottom packs.
fly sheet:
If the bottom bundles where strapped first it couldnt happen,
Aye, right then.
fly sheet:
if it was in a mans trailer it wouldnt have either euroliners are gay tilts rule end of…
Euroliners are fast and easy, tilts are not.
Time is money.
Mind you, so is this result 
I’m just glad it wasn’t me this time.
I think it’s down to poor packing. The same as drivers often say “that’ll never move”, we get loaders who claim “we’ve sent thousands of loads out like that. The banding is fine, we’ve never heard of it collapsing”, (and even if we had, we’d say that anyway).
Tilts are safer, given the fact that most european loads are performed by under paid east europeans nowadays then why not give them tilts, this load may have collapsed due to poor banding, poor strapping timber failure or any number of things but it would’nt have fallen out of a tilt. The driver probably threw two or three straps over it & thought everything was fine & the first ■■■■■ it was gone.
I had a lovely Kelberg euroliner & went back to a tilt after finding it too flexy, I’ve never liked euroliners too complex, one good knock & they’re useless. Bring back the tilt time may be money but safety should come first.
Did The Germans start making drivers strap the loads because they where all hanging out of tilts? No because baffoons thought that curtains would hold a load in a taut/euroliner…