eagerbeaver:
The best thing to come out of that hole is the M62.
Said the closet Scouser.
Met him last week at Poplars, told him ‘‘I ain’t being seen with you in that [zb] shell suit’’ so I loaned him my coat.
Anyhoo…found this.
Can’t believe I’ve never seen it before being an avid Lennon fan.
The track is on the ‘‘John Lennon Rock & Roll’’ album which I have somewhere.
Just thought I’d share it.
Classic John. …enjoy. youtu.be/72D3dPnjtcI
Pretty terrible album but that performance is a gem. Love when he flicks his tongue.
eagerbeaver:
The best thing to come out of that hole is the M62.
Said the closet Scouser.
Met him last week at Poplars, told him ‘‘I ain’t being seen with you in that [zb] shell suit’’ so I loaned him my coat.
Anyhoo…found this.
Can’t believe I’ve never seen it before being an avid Lennon fan.
The track is on the ‘‘John Lennon Rock & Roll’’ album which I have somewhere.
Just thought I’d share it.
Classic John. …enjoy. youtu.be/72D3dPnjtcI
Pretty terrible album but that performance is a gem. Love when he flicks his tongue.
Nah disagree, definitely different, but it went back to his roots on that album, that sort of stuff and those tracks on there got him into music in the first place I was told.
It was vintage 50s R&R that he used to play before the Beatles, pre skiffle, with The Quarrymen for one…
He mentioned Little Richard as one of his main influences…and McCartney the same.
Johm’s singing and the backing are a bit polite tho - listen to Lennon singing “Leave my kitten alone” from '64 - that was what I was hoping for from a Lennon rock n roll album.
JeffA:
Johm’s singing and the backing are a bit polite tho - listen to Lennon singing “Leave my kitten alone” from '64 - that was what I was hoping for from a Lennon rock n roll album.
Ok,.maybe he sang the tracks in a manner respectful to the artists he had long admired,…who knows.
I’ll try and find that track…,.cheers
I haven’t heard it as far as I know, but I maybe have.
Is it an album track or a B side?
Just found it.
Nah never heard it before, cheers for that.
Classic early Beatles Lennon vocals.
Theres a fan site called Beatles Bible I came across, it says it was a track they used to do in their Hamburg set regularly, and in the Cavern days,.but they dropped it.
I do like their early ‘pop’ stuff, but I am more of a fan of their mid to late stuff when they started experimenting with adding different genres of music into their tracks in the studio…mostly LSD infused ,.and never done by any artists before,.although commonplace since with everybody else.
A lot of younger people do not know nor realise the absolute enormity of The Beatles influence on almost everybody in modern music ever since, and not just copycat bands like Oasis.
Lennon once said that Jeff Lynn and ELO do the sort of stuff that The Beatles would be doing if they were still together.
They were not just another old pop/rock band by any means.
I turned 70 last week and my daughter’s present to me is exactly the same: a Beatles themed trip for two to Liverpool. I’m over the moon. We are due to go at the beginning of October. I’m just keeping my fingers crossed that the NHS doesn’t put the kibosh on it by scheduling me for a kidney stone removal “procedure” ooh Betty around that time.
cav551:
I turned 70 last week and my daughter’s present to me is exactly the same: a Beatles themed trip for two to Liverpool. I’m over the moon. We are due to go at the beginning of October. I’m just keeping my fingers crossed that the NHS doesn’t put the kibosh on it by scheduling me for a kidney stone removal “procedure” ooh Betty around that time.
the nodding donkey:
Rob has obviously superimposed a picture of a lovely lady over the Moaster…
Just noticed this when looking back at thread…premod is making us miss a lot of your valuable contributions ND, you need to.beg for amnesty.
You’re right in fact, I keep telling him in no uncertain terms to back the ■■■■ off with his unwelcome advances whenever we meet, but truth is he just finds me too ■■■■■■■ attractive.
Bigtruck3:
Don’t think lennon would have done live aid, there’s a article online with him saying he would never do benefit concerts again he hated them
He was just getting back into his music after spending 5 years in bed (joke) no he was a house husband spending time with his kid
He hated touring in the past but was enjoying so much being back making music that he talked about doing everything even writing with mccarthy again
It’s amazing the difference a decision can make, on leaving the studio the other half asked him should we go for dinner he said no he wanted to go home and see his son before he went to bed
He never got inside the door
Everybody including myself says queen was the best at live aid, I also thought Bowie was brilliant even down to the suit, Bob Dylan was a joke couldn’t stop laughing at him, you couldn’t understand a word he was singing
Mccarthy was let down with the sound
I also remember trying to tape record it, vhs was only recently out and you needed a degree to operate it, and the cost to buy a vhs was dearer than a tv
I think he would have you know.
Live Aid was not just another charity concert, it was THE ultimate benefit gig,.never matched since,.I reckon he would have jumped at being part of it…especially to relaunch his image ,.you have to remember his status is 10 fold+ only because of his death, he was on par (arguably behind) with Macca previous to that .
My highlight at Live Aid…
The Who singing ‘Wont get fooled again’. and David Bowies set during his ‘Serious Moonlight’ sharp suit and bleached blonde barnet period.
There’s a john lennon interview with ■■■■■■■ 1980 1981, Google it its really a insight into him and the relationships with the other 3 and the song writing
A clip of his thoughts about benefit concerts at that time
■■■■■■■: “Just to finish your favorite subject, what about the suggestion that the four of you put aside your personal feelings and regroup to give a mammoth concert for charity, some sort of giant benefit?”
LENNON: “I don’t want to have anything to do with benefits. I have been benefited to death.”
■■■■■■■: “Why?”
LENNON: “Because they’re always rip-offs. I haven’t performed for personal gain since 1966, when the Beatles last performed. Every concert since then, Yoko and I did for specific charities, except for a Toronto thing that was a rock 'n roll revival. Every one of them was a mess or a rip-off. So now we give money to who we want. You’ve heard of tithing?”
■■■■■■■: “That’s when you give away a fixed percentage of your income.”
LENNON: “Right. I am just going to do it privately. I am not going to get locked into that business of saving the world on stage. The show is always a mess and the artist always comes off badly.”
As for Paul mccarthy the tour he did of America with wings was the biggest roadshow ever up to then it was a convoy of juggernauts, sold out all the biggest venues
He had as much success as the Beatles in the 70s just not life changing or as memorable as the Beatles
Example band on the run,
Was the band Wings successful?
Wings toured the world and became the best-selling pop act of the 1970s, with an astonishing 27 U.S. Top 40 hits (beating Elton John’s 25) and five consecutive number one albums, including the highly acclaimed Band on the Run (1973) and Wings at the Speed of Sound (1976).
Bigtruck3:
Don’t think lennon would have done live aid, there’s a article online with him saying he would never do benefit concerts again he hated them
He was just getting back into his music after spending 5 years in bed (joke) no he was a house husband spending time with his kid
He hated touring in the past but was enjoying so much being back making music that he talked about doing everything even writing with mccarthy again
It’s amazing the difference a decision can make, on leaving the studio the other half asked him should we go for dinner he said no he wanted to go home and see his son before he went to bed
He never got inside the door
Everybody including myself says queen was the best at live aid, I also thought Bowie was brilliant even down to the suit, Bob Dylan was a joke couldn’t stop laughing at him, you couldn’t understand a word he was singing
Mccarthy was let down with the sound
I also remember trying to tape record it, vhs was only recently out and you needed a degree to operate it, and the cost to buy a vhs was dearer than a tv
I think he would have you know.
Live Aid was not just another charity concert, it was THE ultimate benefit gig,.never matched since,.I reckon he would have jumped at being part of it…especially to relaunch his image ,.you have to remember his status is 10 fold+ only because of his death, he was on par (arguably behind) with Macca previous to that .
My highlight at Live Aid…
The Who singing ‘Wont get fooled again’. and David Bowies set during his ‘Serious Moonlight’ sharp suit and bleached blonde barnet period.
I think John was WAY behind Macca in his solo career - Double fantasy had pretty much stiffed - think it got to number 17 and was panned by a lot of critics. While Lennon was smoking dope for 5 years and rarely leaving his bedroom Macca was doing world tours. Lennon’s albums before he retired were patchy too - Sometime in new york city is the worst album ever released by a major star, Mind games was average so he really only had his first solo album and Imagine. And he never even did a single tour - just did a couple of one-off shows.
In retrospect I like a lot of Lennons solo stuff more than Macca but in terms of being successful Macca was miles ahead.
Bigtruck3:
Don’t think lennon would have done live aid, there’s a article online with him saying he would never do benefit concerts again he hated them
He was just getting back into his music after spending 5 years in bed (joke) no he was a house husband spending time with his kid
He hated touring in the past but was enjoying so much being back making music that he talked about doing everything even writing with mccarthy again
It’s amazing the difference a decision can make, on leaving the studio the other half asked him should we go for dinner he said no he wanted to go home and see his son before he went to bed
He never got inside the door
Everybody including myself says queen was the best at live aid, I also thought Bowie was brilliant even down to the suit, Bob Dylan was a joke couldn’t stop laughing at him, you couldn’t understand a word he was singing
Mccarthy was let down with the sound
I also remember trying to tape record it, vhs was only recently out and you needed a degree to operate it, and the cost to buy a vhs was dearer than a tv
I think he would have you know.
Live Aid was not just another charity concert, it was THE ultimate benefit gig,.never matched since,.I reckon he would have jumped at being part of it…especially to relaunch his image ,.you have to remember his status is 10 fold+ only because of his death, he was on par (arguably behind) with Macca previous to that .
My highlight at Live Aid…
The Who singing ‘Wont get fooled again’. and David Bowies set during his ‘Serious Moonlight’ sharp suit and bleached blonde barnet period.
I think John was WAY behind Macca in his solo career - Double fantasy had pretty much stiffed - think it got to number 17 and was panned by a lot of critics. While Lennon was smoking dope for 5 years and rarely leaving his bedroom Macca was doing world tours. Lennon’s albums before he retired were patchy too - Sometime in new york city is the worst album ever released by a major star, Mind games was average so he really only had his first solo album and Imagine. And he never even did a single tour - just did a couple of one-off shows.
In retrospect I like a lot of Lennons solo stuff more than Macca but in terms of being successful Macca was miles ahead.
I reckon you are right,.Macca carried on after the Beatles with new projects and new enthusiasm, where as I think Lennon was a bit of an emotional mess afterwards tbh…didnt he go off in the ‘wilderness years’ as he called them, heavily into drink and drugs, and shagging one of Yoko’s mates?
As for The Beatles, I think Macca was the most dedicated musician of the 4 towards the end.
What surprised me more than anything in the Get Back documentary films was the group dynamics, how McCartney came across as the leader, maybe even the brains of the band.
I always thought prior to that, that Lennon was the one they all looked up to as ‘the boss’.
George Harrison gave me the impression he felt inferior to the two,.and as for Ringo he gave off a laid back CGAF attitude and just ‘enjoyed the ride’.
He did not take himself or situations too seriously.
I can relate to Ringo more than any of them. and he still gives off that vibe to this day I reckon.
The funniest part of the films were when they were in an in depth serious meeting with the producers execs,.and George Martin…
Ringo was asked what he thought,.and his answer in that deep voiced Scouse drone he has, was…‘‘I’d better warn everybody, I’ve just ■■■■■■’’
robroy:
George Harrison gave me the impression he felt inferior to the two,.
George let his music do the talking.
It’s always George’s records Something, My Sweet Lord and What is Life being the most memorable for me and that I’ve put on the same level as Hey Jude and way ahead of my next favourite Hello Goodbye.
Don’t think lennon had much business sense after they split ono looked after all his affairs he gave her full control, she represented him with all the Beatles stuff after the split
Imagine was written by lennon while the Beatles were still together in the 60’s it was ono influence and imput as to why it was released after they split shes named on the credits
Other hits he had “Give Peace a Chance,” “Power to the People,” and “Happy Xmas (War is Over) all very similar going in one direction
They say Nixon wanted him deported because he had so much influence on young peoples objection to the war and was going to affect his re election, he had to fight it for years to get a visa to stay they tried to deport him many times, going by some of the music it would make a bit of a truth
They were all so much different people when live aid came along I don’t think it would have worked, it was nearly 20 years after they split, they all had their own identity and careers, I’m sure if lennon had lived and he was getting his mojo back at that time he died he would have done great things because since the Beatles split and he died he really wasn’t bothered
Anyways its all ifs and buts and the truth is they were the fab four and nobody can ever take that away ever
Bigtruck3:
Don’t think lennon had much business sense after they split ono looked after all his affairs he gave her full control, she represented him with all the Beatles stuff after the split
Imagine was written by lennon while the Beatles were still together in the 60’s it was ono influence and imput as to why it was released after they split shes named on the credits
Other hits he had “Give Peace a Chance,” “Power to the People,” and “Happy Xmas (War is Over) all very similar going in one direction
They say Nixon wanted him deported because he had so much influence on young peoples objection to the war and was going to affect his re election, he had to fight it for years to get a visa to stay they tried to deport him many times, going by some of the music it would make a bit of a truth
They were all so much different people when live aid came along I don’t think it would have worked, it was nearly 20 years after they split, they all had their own identity and careers, I’m sure if lennon had lived and he was getting his mojo back at that time he died he would have done great things because since the Beatles split and he died he really wasn’t bothered
Anyways its all ifs and buts and the truth is they were the fab four and nobody can ever take that away ever
He appeared to be a deap thinker
Yep,.I think you’ve got that about right.
I think Lennons nature was to be a bit easily led…I remember his son Julian once saying something like that in an interview.
If he had been alive today I do not think he would have the same sort of following,.idolising or status as he has now he is dead.
We came back yesterday from a long weekend Beatles stay in Liverpool which was a 70th Birthday present to me from our daughter.
We had a lovely time, Liverpool is a great City and we thoroughly enjoyed ourselves. We left Kent at half three which gained us an extra day. The old chuga-boom (2006 Peugeot 206) did very well there and back, both in around 4 1/4 to 4 1/2 hours (5hrs dead including stops).
The trains are cheap as are the buses £2 on the bus into Warrington town centre £3 on the train into Lime Street. Mrs Cav groaned when I commented that the train sounded like it was ■■■■■■■ powered!
We’ve got the same pictures with the statues. We did the same Beatles tour bus around the City, the guide Chris was excellent. He played a trick on everyone by taking his own picture as well as theirs at Penny Lane. I’d fully recommend doing this to anyone thinking of going.
So, we did Ferry Across the Mersey, The Beatles Museum, The Beatles Story, The Cavern Club (agree about the two artists mentioned - Ambro River even managed to do my favourite track I’ll Get You in spite of not knowing it half an hour earlier) and the Guinness is good. The (Titanic) Marine Engine Room Memorial and a City bus tour ending up at Anfield with a stadium tour. All excellent. We did miss out on the Liverpool Maritime Museum because it was closed on Monday which was a shame.
The lasting impression? everyone was so friendly which makes a change from the miserable gits down here.
[The only slight criticism would be that it is so easy and cheap to get in to the City (we were staying in Warrington) but trying to get out again - well! It’s uphill walking to the station from the dock area, all the taxis seem to disappear when you want one, the bus doesn’t really stop close to Lime St Station, that is if you can find someone at the bus station to ask about which stand and which route numbers and then every day the train back to Warrington was cancelled. Got to Warrington Bus station and what chaos the display board is showing the wrong time and buses which have already gone but from other stands.]
…enjoy.
around that time.
