I’ve been driving an EV car for the last 3 years and 108,000 miles and the good news is it’s only cremated me four times!
Seriously, when is the world going to get over this EV fire bull deposits? Official figures state that a combustion car is 5 times more likely to catch fire than an electric one. A hybrid has a higher chance than combustion. EVs are the lowest fire risk of any type of vehicle on the road with the exception of bicycles!
I’d have zero concerns sleeping in an electric truck, even one that was on charge while I was sleeping. I’d be more concerned about kipping with the night heater on, as that deliberately combusts stuff!
You’re not sure about the gross weight and payload of the electric outfit.
400 gallons will get a reasonably heavy road train 800 miles up the road at 2 mpg or 400 miles at 1 mpg ?.
As opposed to 300 miles hauling what exactly you don’t even know…
While an 8 wheeler rigid can haul how many tonnes of batteries without having the weight of a bleedin semi trailer sitting on the back of it ?.
Hasn’t got a clue indeed.
Good on yer mate, I admire your confidence enough to snigger at the claims of EVs bursting into flames.
If I could be arsed (I can’t)I would trawl through you tube to show you numerous examples of this in the short time they have been used by the public…(not so many of night heaters doing the same
thing though, that you use as an example, …of which were first fitted in trucks around 1979 as far as I remember.)
You say ‘OFFICIAL’ figures refute a lot of this telling us ‘how safe they actually are’.
Ok I’m sold, if those figures are ‘OFFICIAL’, then they must be correct…
Electric car here I come.
Oh hang on a minute.
What I meant to say is…If those figures are ‘OFFICIAL’ I am even more sceptic than I was before.
Whenever the word ‘OFFICIAL’ is used, followed by either of the words figures, line, or narrative, I always tend to think of 2 other words…‘Hidden’ and ‘Agenda’, most times in life I have been proven right.
Especially when those figures come from those connected to trying to get us to like and buy EVs.
So if you are as you say, confident enough to sleep in a truck over a charging heavy duty battery overnight, because you have had no bother with your car, then crack on mate.
I’ll just stick to both my proven night heater, and internal combustion …(rather than spontaneous combustion.)
I’m not denying some EVs have caught fire. I’m denying even less that when they do they are a copper plated ■■■■■ to put out. However, every fire service can give you figures on vehicle fires and the prevalence in EVs is absurdly low.
You’ve got a better chance of finding no defects in a fleet of 1000 DAFs than you have of getting a bit too warm in an EV.
I honestly don’t understand this industry’s vehemence. All torque, all the time, quiet and smooth acceleration, better air and the chance to have a proper break while ‘dieseling up’. It’s a truckers dream.
Btw…I stopped ‘dreaming’ about trucking 'kin years ago., maybe thats the problem.
Btw…The cynic in me wants to argue about taking a break when you could be gettting paid for ‘refuelling’ and taking a real break afterwards …but I won’t .
Maybe I’ve done this job too bloody long… hence that cynicism.
The I-pace is a 8 year old design. It’s a first generation EV from JLR there are bound to be teething problems. The fact that Jag is on its arse and doesn’t have the resources to solve the problem whist starting from scratch on a whole new range means that buying back is the cost effective solution.
I will also point out that reports say that those 3000 cars, a fraction of those actually produced and sold, are all in North America and that the fault isn’t widespread in Europe.
I will also point out that in truck applications the batteries will not be so tightly packaged that airflow alone cannot cool them. There is a lot more space to play with in a truck chassis than when the battery is the floor of the car.
The fault of those overheating battery packs on the i-pace were down to the South Korean manufacturer LG Chem, they’ve since changed their name so as not to be associated with it. It was a manufacturing error & they’ve paid out $1.9 billion to GM over those Bolt EV fires & $623million to Hyundai for Kona EV fires.
Jaguar had recalled the i-pace several times to apply a software fix but it didn’t work, so they’ve bought them back.
To be fair the I Pace is a very capable and bleedin quick car.
I actually prefer it to the XE with the caveat that I only very recently saw a 6 cylinder version of the XE in the showroom let alone drove one.
Also ‘prefer’ being relative awful uncomfortable low seat and driving position sitting on the floor like an old mini.
The new Defender with 6 or 8 cylinder petrol is my favourite JLR.Like sitting at home in the armchair plenty of height from floor and similar forward visibility to a truck and handles like a performance saloon.While if any platform could make EV work it would definitely be that one and maybe F Pace with a big power front mounted electric motor or two.
Better air by cutting down and burning trees for fuel and covering fields in solar panels and the risk of nuclear disaster.
At present we’ve got a fleet of DAFs that outnumber EVs by around 1000 x and have no fire implications v examples of EV fires among a tiny fleet that you admit will be swear word of choice to put out.
Having said that a 32t rigid full of batteries and a 1,500 hp motor/s combined with regenerative braking, pulling a 40t drawbar trailer would be a bleedin impressive piece of kit.
You mean the ‘fetish’ that the Scandinavian and NZ road transport industries are successfully based on.
So what’s the exact battery hauling capacity of an artic tractor unit combined with a loaded semi trailer sitting on it ?.
As opposed to a 32 tonne rigid pulling the same trailer with a drawbar ?.
Fetish meaning you creaming your jeans at the mention of a 32 tonne ridgid pulling a six axle trailer.
A short lesson in geography and topography for you Carryfast. Australia is not New Zealand or Scandinavia. Australia could cover Europe, the Mediterranean Sea, the north Atlantic Ocean half way to America and New Zealand. Both Scandinavia and New Zealand are small mountainous countries. Australia is big and mostly flat.
Every country has different legislation to suit local conditions (hint, thats probably why your country does not have 55 metre road trains). A 32 tonne ridgid will require five axles under our legislation. Add a trailer and dolly at ~11 tonne, you have 20 tonne left for freight. That’s a lot of tyres on the road for a part load. You clearly have no concept of how the transport industry works.
A combination of A and B trailers towed by a bogie drive prime mover are the most efficient combination in North America and Australia. It woud seem that is the case in the UK too, unless thousands of successful operators are wrong and you’re the only person who is right. Oh for the sake of a couple of bob, you could have been the owner of the largest international road transport business in the world!
Sorry to correct you SDU, but Australia is nowhere near as big as you think it is, or Europe is much larger. And yes, I have been, many times. In fact the land area of Europe is just about 1.5 times larger than Australia. The west of Ireland to Istanbul is as near as makes no difference the same distance as Sydney to Perth.
I was clearly talking in terms of gross trailer weight and gross train weight.
I also clearly
So now tell us how much payload that semi trailer has left after you’ve loaded the 3 axle tractor unit with enough batteries for the equivalent of 100 let alone 400 gallons of diesel range ?.
Yes it will obviously take a realistic 70t GTW on 9 axles to make it work wherever it is.
Why would an 8 wheeler rigid and 5 axle drawbar work in NZ but not here ?.
You’ve obviously got the luxury of putting another couple of trailers on it just the same as now.
That looks about the most accurate one I can find just going off some distances I put on Google maps lol. Donetsk to Brest was about 3700km and apparently Aus is about 4000 East to west? So that comparison looks about right to me.
Obviously that route more or less a straight line, the equivalent in Aus was showing more like 5500km as it’s not direct.
What the ■■■■ is actually in the middle of Australia SDU?
No need to be sorry, if I’m incorrect I have no issue being corrected, in fact I’d appreciate it.
Notwithstanding, Australia is bigger than Carryfast can visualise and his fantasy combination is not the most efficient for our conditions.
The trial trucks are direct replacements for ICE trucks, same configuration, same GCM and same payload. The only difference being the EVT needs fuel replenishment half way. This is not an issue as a third party changes the batteries while the driver has his mandatory 30 minute break.
In short, the EVT has approximately half the range of its ICE counterpart.
Where did you get 70 tonne from?
How would I know? I’m not there. Unlike you, I don’t claim expertise in regions of which I have no knowledge.
We cant add trailers willy nilly. Multi (trailer) combinations are highly regulated and restricted in thir access.
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, maybe thats the problem.
