Labour Stupidity

Looks like they won’t be getting voted in

Starmer would halt Rwanda flights immediately under Labour government

No effort involved in “stopping” what hasn’t started. :grinning:
But, maybe there will be one or two soon?

YouGov says that immigration and asylum are important to a third of Britons, so it will influence how people vote, but the UK isn’t all of a mind that the Rwanda scheme is a good idea.
28% support the Rwanda scheme 20% tend to support, 35% oppose it (nov 2023) The Government has agreed a deal where some people who have entered Britain to apply for asylum will be flown to Rwanda, in Africa, for their asylum applications to be processed. If their application is successful they would be granted asylum in Rwanda, and would not be entitled to return to Britain. Do you support or oppose this proposal? | Daily Question
And few seem to think it would work well.
If it could be enacted, how effective, if at all, do you think the government’s Rwanda proposal will be at stopping migrants arriving via small boats across the Channel? | Daily Question

Has Labour said what they would do if they win an election after some flights have already taken place? Will they bring back the people already sent, or leave them there to rot, and simply stop more from joining them?

there are specific clauses depending which country ends the agreement.

nope not quite 28% support the Rwanda scheme 20% tend to support, 11% tend to oppose, 24% strongly oppose the scheme and 18% dont know

labour , lib dem and remain have the largest amounts of tend to oppose and strongly oppose so no surprise there… However they include a group of 18-24 year olds so as most of that group will never have voted before the question must of been how will you vote in the next election which is irrelevant as no one really knows.

I suspect that many 18-24 year olds will indeed know how they will vote in the next election.

i havent turned the tv on yet or looked at the headlines has there been an election announced today with all the partys manifestos openly declared?

Granted they may be able to say that they wouldnt vote for a particular party but no one can sensibly say with any certainty which party they would vote for yet.

in that age bracket labour support has been falling

I can honestly say i wont vote labour because i can see the amount of damage that they will do. however i have no idea which other party will have the policies i agree with weighed against the likely hood of getting any serious representation against labour (if they get in)

I have two 30-something nephews and I know they will vote Labour - they were even prepared to vote for Corbyn!

The problem with Labour scrapping the Rwanda scheme is that it re-inforces their image (whether it be true or not) that they are the party of uncontrolled immigration.

Ironically, even though society seems to me to be more polarized than ever before, personally I’ve never been more ambiguous about The Big Two.

lib dems also want unfettered migration (and therefore immigration) as they seem to want to go back into the eu.

the conservatives are the only “serious” party that want to do anything about it. If the rwanda bill will stop all from trying to come to the country i have no idea i suspect it will discourage the majority but is a plan that we control rather than relying on others that have a vested interest in them coming here.

Blair created this mess, why the ffff would anyone want that party leading the way again

Do they though? I get everything they put out sent to me and I have seen nothing about rejoin.
Which puts me right off them, and I have said so to them. Stoney silence. So if you are a died in the wool Brexiteer, have no fear. :wink: :rofl:

Any party who underestimates the British public’s attitude to immigration simply won’t get the votes. It’s a constant in our political system that politicians get so bound up in their internal shenanigans that they seem to forget we the public have different concerns

im surprised that you managed to speak to one of them… i emailed the local one to me and didnt even get an auto responce

As I said, stoney silence.