Evening all,
well NMM asked he right question, and Gardner 240 answered it correctly.
Killingbeck would make the subject for a fascinating book. I went there with my old friend Malcolm Harrison to work out a value on the whole lot prior to the sale, and what a collection it really was! And the engineering involved was truly amazing…a way of creating the correct specification, within tight budgetary parameters to be able to operate profitably, (and legally), within the rediculously low rates offered for traffic…and return an operating profit,…and they did.
John was a masterful engineer, and a decent chap, and well worthy of a good epitaph!
Cheerio for now.
Saviem:
Evening all,well NMM asked he right question, and Gardner 240 answered it correctly.
Killingbeck would make the subject for a fascinating book. I went there with my old friend Malcolm Harrison to work out a value on the whole lot prior to the sale, and what a collection it really was! And the engineering involved was truly amazing…a way of creating the correct specification, within tight budgetary parameters to be able to operate profitably, (and legally), within the rediculously low rates offered for traffic…and return an operating profit,…and they did.
John was a masterful engineer, and a decent chap, and well worthy of a good epitaph!
Cheerio for now.
Did they graft a fork lift truck mast onto the front of an atki?ta,Pete
Oh yes he did!
Cheerio for now.
pete smith:
Saviem:
Evening all,well NMM asked he right question, and Gardner 240 answered it correctly.
Killingbeck would make the subject for a fascinating book. I went there with my old friend Malcolm Harrison to work out a value on the whole lot prior to the sale, and what a collection it really was! And the engineering involved was truly amazing…a way of creating the correct specification, within tight budgetary parameters to be able to operate profitably, (and legally), within the rediculously low rates offered for traffic…and return an operating profit,…and they did.
John was a masterful engineer, and a decent chap, and well worthy of a good epitaph!
Cheerio for now.
Did they graft a fork lift truck mast onto the front of an atki?ta,Pete
Discussed in the Atkinson Facebook group only within the last 48 hours 
Saviem:
Evening all,well NMM asked he right question, and Gardner 240 answered it correctly.
Killingbeck would make the subject for a fascinating book. I went there with my old friend Malcolm Harrison to work out a value on the whole lot prior to the sale, and what a collection it really was! And the engineering involved was truly amazing…a way of creating the correct specification, within tight budgetary parameters to be able to operate profitably, (and legally), within the rediculously low rates offered for traffic…and return an operating profit,…and they did.
John was a masterful engineer, and a decent chap, and well worthy of a good epitaph!
Cheerio for now.
If you’re acquainted with Mr H, John, you’ll perhaps know that he now owns my View-Line?
240 Gardner:
pete smith:
Saviem:
Evening all,well NMM asked he right question, and Gardner 240 answered it correctly.
Killingbeck would make the subject for a fascinating book. I went there with my old friend Malcolm Harrison to work out a value on the whole lot prior to the sale, and what a collection it really was! And the engineering involved was truly amazing…a way of creating the correct specification, within tight budgetary parameters to be able to operate profitably, (and legally), within the rediculously low rates offered for traffic…and return an operating profit,…and they did.
John was a masterful engineer, and a decent chap, and well worthy of a good epitaph!
Cheerio for now.
Did they graft a fork lift truck mast onto the front of an atki?ta,Pete
Discussed in the Atkinson Facebook group only within the last 48 hours
Recall seeing a photo of it few years ago,ta,Pete
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If you’re acquainted with Mr H, John, you’ll perhaps know that he now owns my View-Line?
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Evening Chris, yes…and he will not sell her to me either!!!..(or we cannot agree on price)!!..or my good lady has warned me what will happen to this geriatric if he comes home with another Atkinson!!!
Yours was a great renovation, and done properly, I really do not think that Malcolm`s livery does her justice…you probably wince, just as I did when you put up that image of my old Viewline in her “new” paint job!
Still I suppose we drew the money…but really they are still our “babies”.
Cheerio for now.
Saviem:
Evening Chris, yes…and he will not sell her to me either!!!..(or we cannot agree on price)!!..or my good lady has warned me what will happen to this geriatric if he comes home with another Atkinson!!!Yours was a great renovation, and done properly, I really do not think that Malcolm`s livery does her justice…you probably wince, just as I did when you put up that image of my old Viewline in her “new” paint job!
Still I suppose we drew the money…but really they are still our “babies”.
Cheerio for now.
Evening, John - in a way, I’m pleased he won’t sell it! After 19 years, it was very difficult for me to part with it too, and I think it’s in better hands now than at any time since I sold it in 2003.
Thank you for your kind words re the restoration - it was a major job, in that the only remaining parts of the original cab are the front dash, the roof panel and the windscreen! Everything else was new, be it fabricated, moulded or machined, and with huge input from several helping hands.
And yes, still ours after all these years!!
Meanwhile, my Rear Steer is still roosting quietly in dry storage in the fair county of Salop, awaiting the clarion call… one day!
After reading the Taffy Davis thread, anyone got any pics or info on the above? I remember them running Borderers well into the Eighties, what happened to them■■?
Don’t know about Killingbecks,but there was a firm from Liverpool that ran loads of Atki Borderer’s subbing to Russell Davies during the 80’s.
They used to arrive in Felixstowe on a Monday morning ready for a weeks work,but they looked like they’d never been home,the driver’s wore overalls and their hands and faces were covered in oil and grease,and it was only Monday!
Nice one, sleeper cab too! Any idea what year it was taken?
no idea sorry,but obviously post 1976
Dont know for sure but their demise might have had something to do with jack walker selling walkers steel as he had a lot of work out of there.He was only up the rdfrom were i used to live in bolton,no doubt somebody will put me right.
Killingbecks closed down because John had had enough.
He still had enough work for the wagons, but wanted out. He held an auction in 1999 and everything went apart from a load of Atki spares which John sold to restorers.
I have plenty of Killingbeck pictures and there are plenty of stories to be told about the whole Killingbeck setup. It’s safe to say that the book would be a very good read, if anyone close to the heart of things ever sat down to write one.
KW:
Don’t know about Killingbecks,but there was a firm from Liverpool that ran loads of Atki Borderer’s subbing to Russell Davies during the 80’s.
They used to arrive in Felixstowe on a Monday morning ready for a weeks work,but they looked like they’d never been home,the driver’s wore overalls and their hands and faces were covered in oil and grease,and it was only Monday!
Blue & White motors - Henry Forsyth from Hawthorn Road, Bootle.
What a setup that was - it was like an Amazonian expedition just to get to the top of the yard.
marky,slap some pictures on here 
Thanks for thjat marky.
