having just left the Army and not an expert on drivers hours and working time directive i managed to secure a job with a not so reputable haulage company up in the tyneside area im paid for a 50 hour week yet most weeks like the other drivers i work anything upto 58 hours most days im in work approx 12 hours thats from the min i start the vehicle to parking it back up again in the yard after trunking down south and back
couple of times ive spoke to my transport manager about the hours he informs me i can work upto 15 hours per day as long as im not driving more than ten hours with in that 15
is this true your answer would be greatly appreciated vinny
15 hours would give you a reduced daily rest of 9 hours instead of 11. Because it’s reduced, you can’t do it every day.
Also you need to watch your WTR hours as you can only do an average of 48 working hours a week in a reference period. By doing 50+ every week you will fall foul of this law too (I’m not too sure if this is ever enforced by anyone official)
vinnyg:
having just left the Army and not an expert on drivers hours and working time directive i managed to secure a job with a not so reputable haulage company up in the tyneside area im paid for a 50 hour week yet most weeks like the other drivers i work anything upto 58 hours most days im in work approx 12 hours thats from the min i start the vehicle to parking it back up again in the yard after trunking down south and back
couple of times ive spoke to my transport manager about the hours he informs me i can work upto 15 hours per day as long as im not driving more than ten hours with in that 15
is this true your answer would be greatly appreciated vinny
Employment contract - if you are getting paid for 50 hours only then its up to you to refuse to do any more but you risk being kicked out
Certain rules are for the fixed week and other are for the time between weekly rests
There are also rules for a period of 24 hours which starts at the end of every daily or weekly rest period
I suggest you have a good read of the tacho regs and the RTD/WTD regs as there are so many
Are you driver cpc compliant as some coming out of the forces are not?
Max driving time = 9 hours per shift but can be extended to 10 max twice in a fixed week
Max driving of 56 per fixed week and 90 per any two fixed weeks
Daily rest = 11 hours within every 24 hours from the end of the last daily or weekly rest but can be reduced to 9 a max of three times between weekly rests
Any shift over 13 hours = reduced daily rest
Any time less than 11 hours between shifts = reduced daily rest
That is a few of the rules but there are many more
vinnyg:
having just left the Army and not an expert on drivers hours and working time directive i managed to secure a job with a not so reputable haulage company up in the tyneside area im paid for a 50 hour week yet most weeks like the other drivers i work anything upto 58 hours most days im in work approx 12 hours thats from the min i start the vehicle to parking it back up again in the yard after trunking down south and back
couple of times ive spoke to my transport manager about the hours he informs me i can work upto 15 hours per day as long as im not driving more than ten hours with in that 15
is this true your answer would be greatly appreciated vinny
No it’s not true.
You must have a daily rest period of at-least 11 consecutive hours completed within the period of 24 hours from the start of the shift, that means you can do a spread-over of no more than 13 hours from start to end of the shift.
3 times between weekly rest periods you can have reduced daily rest periods of at-least 9 hours, this extends the spread-over to 15 hours but only 3 times between weekly rest periods.
If you have at-least 3 consecutive hours rest during the shift you can have a 9 hour rest period after the shift and it will not count as a reduced daily rest period so you can do this every day, it’s called a split daily rest period.
You can legally drive for 9 hours between daily rest periods (per shift), this can be extended to 10 hours driving twice per fixed week (00:00 Monday to 24:00 Sunday).
Your TM is talking nonsense 
thanks everyone for your replies much appreciated i have not gone through my cpc course yet the army havent started to fund the courses for its military drivers as of yet.
as i am a freshly out of the Army ill book one sharpish 
vinnyg:
thanks everyone for your replies much appreciated i have not gone through my cpc course yet the army havent started to fund the courses for its military drivers as of yet.
as i am a freshly out of the Army ill book one sharpish
What date did you get your LGV C
What year did you get your car licence?
Hi ROG My car licence was Dec 97 and my LGV C and C+E was february 1998
vinny
vinnyg:
Hi ROG My car licence was Dec 97 and my LGV C and C+E was february 1998vinny
You have dcpc acquired rights until 09/09/2014 so to drive LGVs commercially after that date you need 35 hours of periodic dcpc
If i start work at 18:30 and work until 05:00, can i start work at 17:00 the following night.I would have had 12 hours off but do i have to wait until 18:30 to start my shift because of the 24 hour period.
LeedsChris:
If i start work at 18:30 and work until 05:00, can i start work at 17:00 the following night.I would have had 12 hours off but do i have to wait until 18:30 to start my shift because of the 24 hour period.
A new 24 hour period starts when you’ve completed a daily/weekly rest period.
So yes you could start a new shift at 17:00, this will also start a new 24 hour period.
Cheers
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For clarity I should probably have pointed out that you can restart work as soon as a daily/weekly rest period is completed, so if you finish at 05:00 and need an 11 hour daily rest period you could start again at 16:00 if you wanted to.
If you only needed a reduced daily rest period of 9 hours you could legally start again at 02:00.
I’m not saying you should only that you legally could 
I have had a few questions recently on the issue of what rules need to fit within (inside) a period of 24 hours
some think that the driving time is restricted within 24 hours - I have a feeling that some are getting UK domestic regs which do have a max 10 hour driving time in any 24 hours mixed up with the EU regs driving time rules
I wonder if some driver cpc courses on the rules are not making it clear which rules belong to which or are delivering both sets of rules too close to each other on the courses ?