Iran Container Company (ICC)

Double tandem indeed Jimmy :unamused:

It’s a bloody eight wheeler, there’s no need to make up names for stuff that already has a name FFS :laughing:

There a big ol motor though, I can just about see the bottom of the door from the cab of my Pete :open_mouth: Do they make you feel a tough guy when you’re driving them :question:

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ok ok… its a 8wheeler but you know and i know they dont have a scoobie over here what that is …its like working for the BORG i will accimilate (spelling)
lol…tough no soft in the head perhaps. :blush: look the next time at the driver .he will have his safety hat on …cause your head hits the roof.as you turn the air suspension on first 2 axles off when empty…also it will be a twin stick… :unamused:
thank ** they bought 8 newish mixers …but for us semi drivers we have the old uns…
jimmy

Jimmy, you’ll be the one who knows, that condensor outside the grille, is it for an aftermarket air con system or cooling for the drum drive pump mechanism thingymajig :question:

I hear you about the ride, I saw one jump about 2" off the ground when he went over some train tracks, I followed him and it didn’t even knock the ash off my Malboro :laughing:

They have that Camelback suspension set up, is that because the driver ends up with a back like a Camel after driving one :question: :laughing:

If its above the front mounted pump its an oil cooler for the hydraulics(as photo) our ones sit lower …just the same a couple have oil coolers next to barrel…the camelback is still a lot better ride than the rubberblock setup…
lol aircon…2 wind down windows ,a roof hatch,a kick vent above pedals…

Did Mack ever fit Hendrickson rear bogies?

Jazzandy:
I hope we’re not going to fall out over this!

I’m impressed with the standard of comment from all the above posts and would love us all to be discussing this at the bahnhof cafe in Ludwigsburg in the depths of winter over a few beers and a wiener schnitzel while we wait for the Kombiverkehr train to Koln!

I hope we would all agree that there were many first clas Brits on the road with hearts of gold (us for example), but certainly I for one did run in to an awful lot of bad 'uns!

It’s embarrassing but true that of all the nationalities many of our comrades let the side down big time.

What’s that saying? Birds of a feather?

There have been many dodgy buggers in the transport industry since they used horses and 2 axle rulleys to move farmers goods. I feel this is a tarbrush exercise too. I have met some consummate professionals lose their livelihoods throughout the 60’s 70’s 80’s and 90’s. Rather than putting the blame on the drivers who were forced to cut corners by unscrupulous freight forwarders, agents and manufacturing companies.

Remember Kuehne & Nagel and John Banks

In fact the whole continental transport system was priced on the fact that lorries ran equally well on red fuel as they did white. The forwarders soon cottoned onto this and paid accordingly.

But back to the thread

Interestingly enough the said John Banks worked for a short while for ICC and I think he was the guy who overturned a truck on the Paris Strasbourg road in a village where he promptly set up a stall to sell the chocolates which were inside his containers!!

The only way to survive for the small companies & O/Ds was to duck & dive & hope you didn’t get caught. The whole system was biased against the UK haulier,even our own ministry was pro-foreigner & anti-Brit.Most were treated like criminals for doing an honest days work so in the end acted like criminals to make ends meet.Everybody made money except the people that invested in the hardware & did the work.

Jazzandy:
Did Mack ever fit Hendrickson rear bogies?

If you mean the rocking beam type …then yup…i remember servicing my first Mack over here and trying to find grease ■■■■■■■., :unamused: (you drive it you service it type o company :smiley: )
sorry for driving your thread off course…
jimmy

Wheelnut:
I feel this is a tarbrush exercise too.

Ain’t that just true Malc? I’m sure that I can’t be the only one after a hard days work loading and roping and sheeting my trailer, dragging it back to the yard for fuel only to watch it disappearing down the road to Dover, along with my job, with another driver and unit whose boss had the permits.

Small wonder that many cut corners just to stay in business.

I later worked for a haulier who paid us to bribe our way without getting permits stamped for the first half of the year, then did the same in the next 6 months to get 2 permits stamped to avoid losing his allotment when he didn’t have the work to use them. A crazy system and well rid of.

I changed from UK transport to Swiss in the bad old days & couldn’t believe how easy the job was with proper permits & companies with financial back-up,regular salary + guaranteed night out money, & a months paid holiday a year. You could concentrate on the job instead of ducking & diving all day & then having to fight for your money.

I have a lot of sympathy with the comments about the iniquity of the permit system and the way that our stupid bureaucrats dealt with it, running completely out of permits by September for example.

The basic problem of course was that Britain had a very weak negotiating position in that we were unable to barter reciprocal arrangements since we were not a transit country (unless you were going to Ireland of course!) This meant that as an outsider we more or less had to be grateful for what we were given.

The whole system was ridiculous and a brilliant demonstration of state control a la EU. If market forces had been left to rule we would have had a much more level playing field.

As mentioned by previous posters the system encouraged the cowboys and bred a culture of lawbreaking.

There was another reason for the shortage of permits, which no one has mentioned as yet. We the brit’s soon ran out of our quota of permits because they were the first thing that the foreign customs asked for when processing our paper’s. Compared to Johnny foreigner entering the UK, where the customs officers did not want to know about permits , as they were beyond their remit. What a wonderful saying that became with the UK enforcement agencies, i often wondered what was their remit. Anyway the point being that Johnny foreigner could use the same permit for up to a year without a stamp, i have even seen the british customs refusing to stamp them. therefore their countries always had enough permits and on a pro rata basis could not understand why we needed so many.
This was just another case of our goverments lack of support of our transport industry.

The brilliant thing about Iran Container Company was that they had no permit problems. We had to pay transit taxes in several countries in Europe notably Germany where if my memory serves me right we paid 48 dm per transit.

Reversing into the Salzburg Terminal.

No power steering or automatic gearboxes in those days!

This was me in 1973!!

This is the view down into the Inn valley in Austria from Seefeld at the top of the Crocodile pass.

Jazzandy:
I have a lot of sympathy with the comments about the iniquity of the permit system and the way that our stupid bureaucrats dealt with it, running completely out of permits by September for example.

And they only got worse - we had a lad stuck for 4 weeks in about 2002 because the Kazakhs would not let us have a 3rd country permit which they had recently introduced - our DoT couldn’t be bothered at the time to even acknowledge their communications about quota permits so they had the hump :unamused: we made the oversight starting the carnet in Zeebrugge where we loaded but it was compounded by the civil service :stuck_out_tongue:

Thanks goodness I worked in the main for foreign companies.The only British ones were European Traction, Freightlanes (who did operate on dodgy permits) and OHS.