Can you do done for an Insecure load on a box fridge wagon. If stopped by vosa?
Just curious as fella where I work got to his destination the stuff was all over the place .on the floor etc.
He said he strapped it and strap broke.
But either way.
The Mickey taking he’s getting .
and someone said good job vosa didn’t take a peek.
Then it started a deabte weather you can be done for it on a box wagon.
Can’t see ever heard of it then again until yesterday never gave it a thought
My personal thoughts are no, he/she can’t be done for an insecure load if the load still remains within the confines of the trailer. In the same way as a tipper driver or tanker driver can’t be prosecuted for load movement providing it doesn’t leave the trailer.
I’m sure we’ve all had pallets go over in fridges. It’s just a PITA to restack not an offence.
No its only an insecure load if it a threat of falling off the wagon. Enclosed inside a boxed trailer, the contents are going nowhere
msgyorkie:
No its only an insecure load if it a threat of falling off the wagon. Enclosed inside a boxed trailer, the contents are going nowhere
So if I am carrying heavy steel in a box trailer i dont need to strap it? 
DVSA load assessing 5.1…
can any part of the load slide, topple or bounce in any direction?
is the load causing the vehicle to be unstable or could it affect the handling?
If the answer is yes to any of these questions action can be taken
shullbit:
msgyorkie:
No its only an insecure load if it a threat of falling off the wagon. Enclosed inside a boxed trailer, the contents are going nowhereSo if I am carrying heavy steel in a box trailer i dont need to strap it?
No you don’t, unless it’s a threat of coming out, or the customer would be upset if it was damaged, or your employer would be upset if the inside of the box was trashed. [emoji6]
stu675:
shullbit:
msgyorkie:
No its only an insecure load if it a threat of falling off the wagon. Enclosed inside a boxed trailer, the contents are going nowhereSo if I am carrying heavy steel in a box trailer i dont need to strap it?
No you don’t, unless it’s a threat of coming out, or the customer would be upset if it was damaged, or your employer would be upset if the inside of the box was trashed. [emoji6]
Dont be ridiculous.
I just read 6.3 Rigid bodied vehicles. …Vehicles with rigid sides are no different to any other vehicle when it comes to load securing. Load securing requirements still apply.
So to answer the OPs question…YES you can be done for an insecure load in a boxed fridge.
Way I look at it is same as others it goes over etc. It ain’t coming out the side onto the road
edd1974:
Way I look at it is same as others it goes over etc. It ain’t coming out the side onto the road
The question is ‘‘Can you be done by DVSA for having an insecure load in a box fridge?’’ The answer is ‘‘YES you can.’’
Of course it has to be secured, why otherwise would trailers and vehicles be fitted with load lock rails? The level of securing depends on what is being carried, but at the least the last row has to be prevented from toppling backwards; anything on wheels, every however many rows depending on its weight.
the maoster:
I’m sure we’ve all had pallets go over in fridges. It’s just a PITA to restack not an offence.
Speak for yourself, I’ve never had a pallet go over, in a fridge or a dry van.
when i did a little bit of supermarket worked and got a stop check they asked about the load but i said i cant show you as the serial numbers have to match. they were fine with it. I did suggest that they initial the paper work to say they had opened it but they wernt bothered.
Never known…
Anyone to be prosecuted for it.
Cages have to be the worst. I’ve seen trailers arrive on site with food residue running out of the gap between the bottom of the doors. 9 times out of 10 it was a caged load.
When loading tomatoes out of Spain, the load was usually an odd number of boards. Drivers were constantly talking about which side to put the odd pallet on. I found a much more reliable solution, get another Chep and stack half of the tommies on that. Bit of shrink wrap and hey presto, no load fall over on way back to Blighty.
yourhavingalarf:
Never known…Anyone to be prosecuted for it.
Cages have to be the worst. I’ve seen trailers arrive on site with food residue running out of the gap between the bottom of the doors. 9 times out of 10 it was a caged load.
When loading tomatoes out of Spain, the load was usually an odd number of boards. Drivers were constantly talking about which side to put the odd pallet on. I found a much more reliable solution, get another Chep and stack half of the tommies on that. Bit of shrink wrap and hey presto, no load fall over on way back to Blighty.
But most drivers can’t think for them selfs , that ain’t even primary school science let alone rocket science 
shullbit:
The question is ‘‘Can you be done by DVSA for having an insecure load in a box fridge?’’ The answer is ‘‘YES you can.’’
+1
From the horse’s mouth
youtube.com/watch?v=PoVXOJXbMe4
the maoster:
My personal thoughts are no, he/she can’t be done for an insecure load if the load still remains within the confines of the trailer.
Tell that to all the people who’ve been done with curtain siders and including that infamous one my local force did where they prosecuted someone pulling a tilt trailer full of polystyrene insulation held in by the side boards of their tilt trailer for an unsecure load.
Wasn’t it a year or two back that a load of baled waste paper shifted in a container, and took the whole truck over? It might not have popped out but sure as heck wasn’t secure nor safe.
Why is the load insecure, is it worried it’s not big enough ?