pops powell:
i bet the drivers dont get paid while they are parked up,
Correct. At a company like waberer’s they are paid per km. It’s illegal,
Why do you think is illegal? Maybe it is in Britain, but it does not matter that its illegal elsewhere…
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I think Cilger is referring to the following from the EU drivers Regs, Although I think it would also cover the operation of many UK hauliers. The last bit might be a get out clause, if you can prove your payment system doesn’t encourage law breaking.
A transport undertaking shall not give drivers it employs
or who are put at its disposal any payment, even in the form
of a bonus or wage supplement, related to distances travelled
and/or the amount of goods carried if that payment is of such a kind as to endanger road safety and/or encourages infringement of this Regulation.
why do so many idiots think it’s illegal to be paid per km,mile, or per trip?
are they all on drugs?
probably the same sort of idiots that make the job harder for everyone else, they will pay fines without question.
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What about timed deliveries,are they illegal,drivers pushed to make a dead line,if he/she fails the firm gets a penalty for being late,this makes pressure on the driver which leads to speeding and an accident may occur too.
limeyphil, you may be a god among drivers in the UK, but looks like you do not know anything about Hungary.
If you are an owner driver, then yes, you are paid by km. But if you are just an employed driver for a company, according to Hungarian law, you must not be paid by mileage. It is still the usual practice though.
toby1234abc: I usually had timed deliveries. If I felt I cannot make it, I told my operator why. Occasionally they answered I can be late, I’ll get loaded/unloaded, no problem. Sometimes the rebooked it.
Speeding or driving over the limit? Out of the question. I had a couple of companies like that at the beginning, but I quit after a few weeks. Garda/police/whatever catches you, you pay the fine, not your company.
A driver from Wabberers was asked to get on a bay to load coffee,due to the postitions of other trucks on the bays,he had to do a blind reverse,the driver looked very young,and seemed very anxious,he was having problems to reverse,the unit and trailer was all over the place,susies about to go pop,some colleagues stepped in to assist,and got it on the bay.It is not easy to blind reverse,and many on here will recall the glass windows at the back of the cab,on old Scanias and other trucks,so you could see where you are going.
By this time the French were shouting,arm waving and eye rolling followed.The MAN,he was in, had most of its mirrors broken,and dents and marks all over the unit and trailer,this guy was let lose all over Europe.Lay off the Vodka Stavrosisik.
milodon:
fortunately there are no beginner drivers in the UK, they turn into a sad old git the moment they get their C+E.
No it’s because most of the foreigner’s don’t have proper training and get an upgrade on there tractor license for just turning up at the testing station. just try following one of the peasants on the train and that’s a strait forward manoeuvre nightmare.
Im not sure if it is correct or not,had heard the LGV test in some countries consists of driving in a straight line,turn left,turn right,thats it you can drive a 44 tonner all over Europe,is the test carried out out on agricultural machines?Once i asked a driver why some nationalities “hide” in their cab for a whole weekend,he said they have many licences,and some times no licence,so keep out of the way in case the old bill carry out a random check,he said one licence may have a ban on it,the other is ok,for which country you are in.
Think Wabberers was bought out from Hungarocamion.
I did my class 1 the same time as a pole who had failed his test twice in Poland & once in the UK and he thought the Polish test was harder, I seem to remember him saying the reverse exercise was more complex than ours.
Andy Rich:
I did my class 1 the same time as a pole who had failed his test twice in Poland & once in the UK and he thought the Polish test was harder, I seem to remember him saying the reverse exercise was more complex than ours.
That’s true.
In Polish you have not only “reverse excercise” but you have to be able to complete all this maneuvres before you are allowed to go on the road:
Going forward on the bend with stopping no more than 40 cm from the line (or 25, I don’t remember now)
Going backward on the same bend with stopping no more than 40 cm from the line
Entering a “parking space” at 45 degree angle, forward, and leaving it returning to the position at the start of the track
Entering a “parking space” at 90 degree angle reversing, then leaving it
Pararel parking, reversing
3 steps turning
Starting up the hill.
When I was passing my test, you have to do them all, any fault and you did not passed. Later they decided that you have just do one of them, randomly chosen.
You have to be able to do all these maneuvres for all the categories (except for reversing when you are attempting your troleybus license, because troleybuses cannot reverse to well, as the pantographs often got stuck on the wires and go bend or drop off the wires)
This is typical track:
Off course there is coupling and uncoupling for the +E categories
Some of these maneuvres here:
Here you have view from the cab to see how tight the space is:
I hope this will end repeating this stupid myth about “getting license upgraded from tractor from nothing”.
toby1234abc:
Think Wabberers was bought out from Hungarocamion.
Mr. Georgy Waberer who was own the privatised company Volan Tefu and purchased Hungarocamion in 2002. In 2003 Mr Waberers change into a brand new name - Waberers so Hungarocamion livery became disappeared
