Evil8Beezle:
Yes Reef, I’m sure that is only just the start of the backtracking! 
Business doesn’t cut off its nose to spite its face…
That is true. As long as the UK spends enough dolla, the USA will keep up the 'special ■■■■■ ’ routine. But stop giving the USA those ■■■■■■■■ and they’ll have no use for you…
I guess the price of your new trident has just gone up.
What part of Trident is going to be overcharged for by the yanks?
Winseer:
What part of Trident is going to be overcharged for by the yanks?
Every part. Independent Britain has nothing that the world needs, or wants, bar money. No natural resources, no manufacturing, no large food production. Britain will be asking, cap in hand.
Evil8Beezle:
Business doesn’t cut off its nose to spite its face…
Absolutely spot on!
I’d like to send a message to those large multinationals who threatened to relocate in the event of Brexit, you know the ones; the ones who trade here but base themselves on the Isle of Man/ Lichtenstein/ Luxembourg to avoid paying taxes whilst having the temerity to lecture us on how we should behave, well my message is ; don’t let the door hit you on the arse on the way out!
the nodding donkey:
Winseer:
What part of Trident is going to be overcharged for by the yanks?
Every part. Independent Britain has nothing that the world needs, or wants, bar money. No natural resources, no manufacturing, no large food production. Britain will be asking, cap in hand.
If that were true, the rest of the world would not be so bloody upset that we’ve pulled the plug on the leeching relationship they’ve had with us in the EU upto this point…
Stage 2 - Get Trump in the Whitehouse, and kick all those notions that America is going to continue treating it’s closest ally like it’s prime bit ch - into touch.
I’m a bit worried that Cameron is lingering for 3 months though. A lot of harm can be done to us in that time in pique by the EU.
What we should be doing right now is
CANCELLING THE STANDING ORDER PAYMENTS TO BRUSSELS
Then - see how long it takes for them to “let us go” once we’re not paying them for each day we somehow cannot sever all links as yet.
In my mind - the correct way for us to go about doing Brexit is to
(1) Stop paying as of NOW
(2) Let current EU trade contracts lapse over the next months (which also protects us from extra tariffs being imposed!)
(3) Confiscate all EU goods coming into this country - if that is not done. Why can’t “Operation Stack” be used as a holding zone - as a threat if the EU think we’re going to accept one minute more of their ■■■■■■■■ than we absolutely have to. We’ve broken the treaty by voting to leave. Leaving is already illegal. Now it remains for our politicians with any bottle to “carry on breaking whatever EU laws they must” to get the rest of the job done.
well well well
i am just so proud today its been such a long road. well done to all those brave enough to look past all the scares and bullying the other sides tried to dump, well done everyone who stood up to being called racist as the race card was played like it always would, i was almost tearful for Nigel farage and all the crap that guy has had to undergo for years he was the one who spoke out in a way the political classes dare not or would not. he understood the huge impact high migration was having and the fears of seeing work places changing
he is the only person that was in tune with the average working man or women in the street and he spoke the right language
its to late that labour now come to think again on there stance as they were the main ones who played the race card towards its own voters who wanted out
labour are no different to the rest of the political lot and i certainly would never vote for them again
i dont know what ukip will do now or nigel as the job is done other than try to hold the political lot to account and make sure they get a move on
but what a real amazing day i have hope again now that things might start to get better for everyone, the end of the eu and there crazy rules the end of the cpc card : ) the end of cheap drivers coming over here to fill the gaps
in time there will be a drivers shortage and the winners will be the drivers who deserve a much better deal for the job they do
all in all there is a bright future and even if things dont work out the best thing is we can kick the buggers out who let us down
i am one very happy chap
i am off now to entertain my blow up doll as i am so excited
Stanley Knife:
The vast majority of EU member states want us to leave quickly, but Cameron’s resignation has scuppered that. Any incoming PM can state that Cameron wasn’t acting in the UK’s best interests as he was on the wrong side of the argument.
It is now up to the UK to present the policies that will form the basis of the UK exit. If Article 50 is enacted now we are only eating into our own time. Let’s get the foundations right before we put our notice in.
Firstly the question is why didn’t Cameron just resign with immediate effect.Leaving the leave side of the Party to install an interim leader and then also invoke Article 50 as of Monday morning.Together with an application to rejoin EFTA with equally immediate effect.
While your idea will just play into the hands of the remainers.Who trust me not surprisingly have no regard to the democratic decision and will do everything they can to sabotage this seemingly so far phoney secession.Having been conveniently given all the time in the world by Cameron and a complacent naive Leave group to do it.
The same question applies to Labour.Having made lots of talk about ‘listening’ to the electorate but surprise surprise Corbyn still remains in place with remainers as entrenched with the media as ever and Hoey remaining as sidelined as ever.
With the remain group equally unsurprisingly showing no intention of giving way and forgetting all about their federalist ambitions of handing the country over to Juncker and co.
While to add insult to injury the remainers are now claiming that the bar needs to be set higher than for them.When ironically if anything the argument between Nation over Federation needs to be a one sided bar of either unanimity for Federation or we stay as Nation let alone a democratic majority in favour of Nation however finely balanced.
As for so called Scottish and Irish ‘Nationalists’ being in favour of Federation over Nation,like all remainers,they are a bunch of lying dictatorial hypocrites.
My facebook is full of friends who voted to remain, crying, calling everybody racist bigots etc Some people need to learn to accept a democratic process, If the vote was to remain I would have been disapointed but I doubt I would be declaring war on everybody who did. People need to respect everybody has different opinions, these have been built up on parentage, wealth, media, personal experiences and numerous other influencing factors, it doesn’t make them racist bigots !
My reasons to vote leave wasn’t purely immigration, it was for multiple reasons, The EU was originally the common market where similar countries could trade and work without barriers, it was never meant to be a new superstate government. Each country should have the right to elect its own leaders to serve its country’s needs.
Successive governments have neglected the North and the Midlands they have lived in their little bubbles whilst they destroyed our manufacturing and service industries, hence the high numbers voting to leave in these deprived areas.
The banking industry which is mainly London based (hence why they voted to remain) doesn’t employ the masses, it employs the select few. The poor are becoming poorer year on year they control the media so we fight amongst oursleves the so called Jezza Kyle generation who don’t work we need to understand why ? Successive governments have been massaging unemployment figures to look good making it more financially secure by not working than working. Thus creating voids in recruitment filled by cheap labour from the Eastern EU.
Big companies are always looking at ways of reducing costs which usually results in transfering manufacturing and services to low cost countries (first it was Eastern Europe, then it was China and now they are exploiting Africa)
To compound this some jobs can’ t be exported builders, nurses, farming personal, certain services and goods etc. so they bring in cheap labour which descimates rates of pay creates more unemployed and leaves the country with a masive divide with the have’s and have nots. Their failure to understand this has caused a cross party divide Cons standing side by side with Labour lib dems UKIP etc. this has never been known.
Personally I have nothing against the European people their cultures are very similar to ours and they integrate very well into British culture. We haven’t fallen out with the people of Europe we still love them and still want to work and trade with them. The only difference is we want to manage ourselves. I predict a European Autumn we had a Arab spring where all the Arab countries broke away from their governments ! I think the EU will be like a deck of cards and will start to fall down. The EU will be reformed including the UK but more focused around trading partners rather than a European superstate managed by unelected fat cat EU presidents
the nodding donkey:
Winseer:
What part of Trident is going to be overcharged for by the yanks?
Every part. Independent Britain has nothing that the world needs, or wants, bar money. No natural resources, no manufacturing, no large food production. Britain will be asking, cap in hand.
The fact that we’ve allowed the Germans to smash our industrial capacity as an EU member isn’t going to be fixed by staying with the remainers obvious dream of staying in Juncker’s zb pile for more of the same.Or being naive enough to go along with an obvious plan by the remainers of doing whatever it takes to over turn the decision helped by their puppet Cameron in playing for time.
We had plenty of manufacturing, until the big plc’s moved it to the east, where £2 an hour workers packed ecs boxes and moved it cross continent to the uk for £500. Maybe said plc’s could bring the manufacturing back so we can load the ecs boxes bound for Europe 
Winseer:
…Or got short of Gold, thinking that the Bank of England might have to flog some gold reserves to stablize the pound.
Didn’t Gordon Brown sell it all off already, around 2004?
rearaxle:
My facebook is full of friends who voted to remain, crying, calling everybody racist bigots etc Some people need to learn to accept a democratic process, If the vote was to remain I would have been disapointed
Trust me history shows time and time again that the argument between Nation over Federation is rarely if ever settled democratically.It should be no surprise that Federalists don’t do democracy because that’s the nature of Federalism.While Nation should have every right to expect a unanimous decision not a democratic one in the case of the giving way of Nation to Federation bearing in mind that the definition of union and united is unanimity not majority.
Winseer:
the nodding donkey:
Winseer:
What part of Trident is going to be overcharged for by the yanks?
Every part. Independent Britain has nothing that the world needs, or wants, bar money. No natural resources, no manufacturing, no large food production. Britain will be asking, cap in hand.
If that were true, the rest of the world would not be so bloody upset that we’ve pulled the plug on the leeching relationship they’ve had with us in the EU upto this point…
Stage 2 - Get Trump in the Whitehouse, and kick all those notions that America is going to continue treating it’s closest ally like it’s prime bit ch - into touch.
I’m a bit worried that Cameron is lingering for 3 months though. A lot of harm can be done to us in that time in pique by the EU.
What we should be doing right now is
CANCELLING THE STANDING ORDER PAYMENTS TO BRUSSELS
Then - see how long it takes for them to “let us go” once we’re not paying them for each day we somehow cannot sever all links as yet.
In my mind - the correct way for us to go about doing Brexit is to
(1) Stop paying as of NOW
(2) Let current EU trade contracts lapse over the next months (which also protects us from extra tariffs being imposed!)
(3) Confiscate all EU goods coming into this country - if that is not done. Why can’t “Operation Stack” be used as a holding zone - as a threat if the EU think we’re going to accept one minute more of their ■■■■■■■■ than we absolutely have to. We’ve broken the treaty by voting to leave. Leaving is already illegal. Now it remains for our politicians with any bottle to “carry on breaking whatever EU laws they must” to get the rest of the job done.
^ This.
In addition to an immediate application to re join EFTA.Instead of which we’ve got the media looking for every loophole possible to salvage some victory from a remain defeat and refusal of remain MP’s and supporters to back down and forget all about the EU and get out of the media with an admission that our membership is over together with their bs Federalist project.With people like Farage and Hoey being as sidelined in the media as ever.With the news at this moment being filled with yet another remain MP shouting about ‘the young’ supposedly being robbed by the ‘older generation’ in the referendum and yet more remain pro immigration bs.Followed by Ed Balls stating the same old tired bs that we have to keep free movement to trade with Europe.So much for Labour ‘listening’ to its electorate. 
rearaxle:
The EU was originally the common market where similar countries could trade and work without barriers, it was never meant to be a new superstate government.
I agree and the money taken from the net payers is being used for many a totally ridiculous project. For example, Rail Baltic, connecting Estonia with Poland for passenger traffic that will probably not pay twice the airfare two travel four times longer and cargo traffic, that already uses cheaper ferries to get much further towards their destinations in western Europe.
And the fun part is, after it’s been built with 50% EU funding, the memberstates will have the pleasure of paying for the upkeep, indefinitely.
and here is one for you not to like, can it be serious?
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215
currently running at about 500 per minute
surely not!
and DON’T SHOOT THE MESSENGER
the maoster:
I’m liking this guy.
Like him?
I’m loving him!
As for a petition, let’s take it seriously when it breaks 17 million! 
Bluey Circles:
and here is one for you not to like, can it be serious?
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215
currently running at about 500 per minute
surely not!
and DON’T SHOOT THE MESSENGER
It’s probably true on the basis that Socialists/Federalists don’t do democracy.While I’m sure they’d have been happy enough with the margin if they’d have won.With any opposing petition,in that case,that the margin for Federation over Nation should be nothing less than unanimity being branded as ‘racist’.
Having said that didn’t see any 60% margin limit rule being applied before the referendum.
