Illegals found in a container

I’m with you on the Zionist agenda, however the carrot that they dangle is one of oil.

Think about how the western world has progressed in the past hundred years or so, yet the Islamic countries are still stuck in the dark ages by contrast.

I’m convinced that the more extreme islamists are funded by the Zionists to keep the medieval attitudes today and help to keep the average Muslim in their place.

Of course you can’t actually say that, the Zionists have ensured that any slur on them is seen as anti semitic and carries extremely harsh penalties.

Our politicians and Royal Family are neck deep in the Zionist ‘conspiracy’

Blimey, I’m out

newmercman:
I’m with you on the Zionist agenda, however the carrot that they dangle is one of oil.

Think about how the western world has progressed in the past hundred years or so, yet the Islamic countries are still stuck in the dark ages by contrast.

I’m convinced that the more extreme islamists are funded by the Zionists to keep the medieval attitudes today and help to keep the average Muslim in their place.

Of course you can’t actually say that, the Zionists have ensured that any slur on them is seen as anti semitic and carries extremely harsh penalties.

Our politicians and Royal Family are neck deep in the Zionist ‘conspiracy’

That post should come with this…

Oh. Dear.

Mr Trotter, if you disagree then by all means post a reasonable argument to my post.

Or you could get personal and let people question who in fact is the moron.

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So you really believe what you posted, show me one Islamic country that is “stuck in the dark ages” , UAE, Saudi, Qatar? What progress has the western world made that Islamic countries have not kept pace with, all have mobile phone networks and internet access,satellite TV if that is how you measure progress. So you don’t agree with some of the laws,that doesn’t make them wrong, look at the US and its perpetuation of the death penalty, is that not from the dark ages?

How do the Zionist fund the extreme Islamists? I think you will find that is is other richer Islamists that fund the extremists, like politicians worldwide, or self funding through crime, telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne … ,certainly not the zionists.

What harsh penalties for anti-Semitic comments? Certainly in this country the same laws protect against religious abuse against Christians, Muslims and other religions?

Extremists exist in every avenue of religion/culture, white supremacists in the US for example, are they too funded by the Zionists or is it because they have strong Christian beliefs they are OK?

As for the theory that the royal family and politicians are in league with the Zionist, I’d loosen the tin foil helmet if I were you.

switchlogic:

Mike-C:

switchlogic:
I think the idea that there is this big world conspiracy controlling us all is giving the human race credit for being a lot cleverer we actually are.

You think the Americans are Philanthropists ? :smiley:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covert_U. … ge_actions

Just wait till the conspiracy theorists find out the CIA run Google !! :laughing: :laughing:

Where on earth did I say I think the Americans are philanthropists?! Come on now, don’t do a Carryfast and put words in my mouth

You never said they where philanthropists. You said there is no big conspiracy controlling us all. I just pointed out some well known ones. Why do you think they do this ?

newmercman:
I’m with you on the Zionist agenda, however the carrot that they dangle is one of oil.

Think about how the western world has progressed in the past hundred years or so, yet the Islamic countries are still stuck in the dark ages by contrast.

I’m convinced that the more extreme islamists are funded by the Zionists to keep the medieval attitudes today and help to keep the average Muslim in their place.

Of course you can’t actually say that, the Zionists have ensured that any slur on them is seen as anti semitic and carries extremely harsh penalties.

Our politicians and Royal Family are neck deep in the Zionist ‘conspiracy’

To be fair their are plenty of historic precedents where the blame for the flaws in Anglo Saxon society ( greed based Capitalism to the point of Communism in this case ) gets shifted onto the Jewish ethnic group.Either as a diversion by those who are in on the scam or as a convenient scapegoat by those looking ‘for reasons’ outside because the truth,that the problems are within,is too inconvenient.

As for busting the ‘Zionist’ theory.You’d firstly have to be part of the ‘holocaust’ denial groups,amongst being able to understand all the other historic anti Jewish rabbles throughout history,to not be able to understand why Israel is what and where it is today.In addition to believing the bs idea that the Jewish nation has no long term roots in the place where it rightly calls its homeland.

In which case,for anyone who doesn’t buy into any and/or all of the above,the facts are simply that the Jewish ethnic group has been one of,if not the, most persecuted in history wherever they happen to be through centuries of emigration.The result finally being that they realised everything that is wrong about the idea of ethnic integration in foreign places and decided to go home.Where of course they end up in yet more conflict with their backward,savage,racist neighbouring Muslim cultures and factions.The difference this time being that they were/are up for a fight for their survival.

As for the idea of them funding those neighbouring cultures which want to massacre them as I remember it the closest they ever came to being massacred by their Arab neighbours was with the arms and support provided by those with your ideas in the Russian government.

While the main/largest opposition to the setting up of the state of Israel was that of the British government.Which at its height resulted in shipping out troops directly from the aftermath of WW2 to ‘Palestine’ to fight against what eventually became the IDF.

As for the Brit ‘support’ of the IDF,later in 1967 and 1973,that probably had more to do with fighting a war by proxy with Russia than giving a zb about what ‘would’ have happened to the Israelis if they’d have lost.As for the logical conclusion of the Muslim culture ISIS seems to say it all and no prizes for guessing what would happen ‘if’ they ever won out to the point of invading Israel.The question in that case is why would the Israelis want to fund and support a culture that wants to destroy it.

Its my case that all the anti Israeli bs that seems to be an increasing part of this country’s attitudes is a reflection of its domestic immigration policy that being selectively racist when it suits it.In this case that translates as supporting the anti Israeli cause to keep the Asian immigrant communities happy.In addition to the fact that the idea of Israel as a nation is the antithesis of the socialist and cheap labour alliance idea of ethnic integration.IE this country has never been a large supporter of the Israeli cause in many case the total opposite.

Mike-C:

switchlogic:

Mike-C:

switchlogic:
I think the idea that there is this big world conspiracy controlling us all is giving the human race credit for being a lot cleverer we actually are.

You think the Americans are Philanthropists ? :smiley:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covert_U. … ge_actions

Just wait till the conspiracy theorists find out the CIA run Google !! :laughing: :laughing:

Where on earth did I say I think the Americans are philanthropists?! Come on now, don’t do a Carryfast and put words in my mouth

You never said they where philanthropists. You said there is no big conspiracy controlling us all. I just pointed out some well known ones. Why do you think they do this ?

Do what? However Well known doesn’t equal true

truckyboy:
I dont feel sorry for them one bit, 1 dead is 1 less getting my hard earned cash via benefits, housing etc etc but i have a solution. Its well known that immigrants smuggling themselves here destroy all paperwork relating to their identity or where they are from, so if we send a message that no one will get one penny in help including housing etc etc without an id card or passport, then maybe they will not destroy their i.d.
so once they arrive,. we know where to send them back to :laughing:

You sir , are a ■■■■ , a little bit of knowledge (and use the term “knowledge” very loosely) is clearly a dangerous thing , I look forward to your views on other topics in the future .

del trotter:
So you really believe what you posted, show me one Islamic country that is “stuck in the dark ages” , UAE, Saudi, Qatar? What progress has the western world made that Islamic countries have not kept pace with, all have mobile phone networks and internet access,satellite TV if that is how you measure progress. So you don’t agree with some of the laws,that doesn’t make them wrong, look at the US and its perpetuation of the death penalty, is that not from the dark ages?

How do the Zionist fund the extreme Islamists? I think you will find that is is other richer Islamists that fund the extremists, like politicians worldwide, or self funding through crime, telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne … ,certainly not the zionists.

What harsh penalties for anti-Semitic comments? Certainly in this country the same laws protect against religious abuse against Christians, Muslims and other religions?

Extremists exist in every avenue of religion/culture, white supremacists in the US for example, are they too funded by the Zionists or is it because they have strong Christian beliefs they are OK?

As for the theory that the royal family and politicians are in league with the Zionist, I’d loosen the tin foil helmet if I were you.

Yes I do believe that the general population in the Arab countries is living in the dark ages.

They may have big fancy skyscrapers and Starbucks in the big cities, but outside of them there is nothing and that is in part to do with the structure of their society.

Now to my claims (which are an idea, or thinking out loud if you prefer) that the jihadist groups are funded by the west (Zionists)

Israel is the sworn enemy of the Arab world, it can protect its borders, as proven recently by its annihilation of Hamas, but as soon as one group are wiped out, another takes its place.

It has been stated that Iran’s goal in getting a nuclear weapon is to wipe Israel from the face of the earth.

So how to deal with this? Easy, just give a few nutjobs some money/weapons and let them attack, publicise the hell out of it in the media that you own and get public support, then come down on your enemy with everything you have and finish it once and for all.

Like any fight, you have to take a few jabs before landing the right uppercut KO.

It is a fact that the Rothschild dynasty has a controlling interest in the banking systems of all but a few countries in the world. It is also a fact that they, through the Rhodes Foundation have the ear (or wallet) of many influential politicians and businesses, if they want something to happen, it happens.

With the current anti Muslim feelings in the western world, feelings that are perpetuated by media brainwashing, the people would feel a lot safer if the ‘good guys’ were to remove the threat once and for all, coincidentally ensuring the safety of Israel at the same time.

However, if that were to happen it would have an effect on the Zionist finances as there’s a lot of money to be made from war, so the constant turmoil in the region is just what they want.

switchlogic:
Do what?

Control countries for their own ends. You suggested there is no “big world conspiracy”, i’m just pointing out some factual examples of America conspiring against Countries for the benefit of its Businesses.

switchlogic:
However Well known doesn’t equal true

Thats why i stuck to the ones they’ve admitted.

newmercman:

del trotter:
So you really believe what you posted, show me one Islamic country that is “stuck in the dark ages” , UAE, Saudi, Qatar? What progress has the western world made that Islamic countries have not kept pace with, all have mobile phone networks and internet access,satellite TV if that is how you measure progress. So you don’t agree with some of the laws,that doesn’t make them wrong, look at the US and its perpetuation of the death penalty, is that not from the dark ages?

How do the Zionist fund the extreme Islamists? I think you will find that is is other richer Islamists that fund the extremists, like politicians worldwide, or self funding through crime, telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne … ,certainly not the zionists.

What harsh penalties for anti-Semitic comments? Certainly in this country the same laws protect against religious abuse against Christians, Muslims and other religions?

Extremists exist in every avenue of religion/culture, white supremacists in the US for example, are they too funded by the Zionists or is it because they have strong Christian beliefs they are OK?

As for the theory that the royal family and politicians are in league with the Zionist, I’d loosen the tin foil helmet if I were you.

Yes I do believe that the general population in the Arab countries is living in the dark ages.

They may have big fancy skyscrapers and Starbucks in the big cities, but outside of them there is nothing and that is in part to do with the structure of their society.

Now to my claims (which are an idea, or thinking out loud if you prefer) that the jihadist groups are funded by the west (Zionists)

Israel is the sworn enemy of the Arab world, it can protect its borders, as proven recently by its annihilation of Hamas, but as soon as one group are wiped out, another takes its place.

It has been stated that Iran’s goal in getting a nuclear weapon is to wipe Israel from the face of the earth.

So how to deal with this? Easy, just give a few nutjobs some money/weapons and let them attack, publicise the hell out of it in the media that you own and get public support, then come down on your enemy with everything you have and finish it once and for all.

Like any fight, you have to take a few jabs before landing the right uppercut KO.

It is a fact that the Rothschild dynasty has a controlling interest in the banking systems of all but a few countries in the world. It is also a fact that they, through the Rhodes Foundation have the ear (or wallet) of many influential politicians and businesses, if they want something to happen, it happens.

With the current anti Muslim feelings in the western world, feelings that are perpetuated by media brainwashing, the people would feel a lot safer if the ‘good guys’ were to remove the threat once and for all, coincidentally ensuring the safety of Israel at the same time.

However, if that were to happen it would have an effect on the Zionist finances as there’s a lot of money to be made from war, so the constant turmoil in the region is just what they want.

Your right, you just have to look at the news we are fed about Gaza, the BBC are a complete joke. They have an agenda, they shouldn’t but they do.

Another example look at Fox News, those people presenting the show behave like lunatics. It’s all aimed at Middle America, the very same people that could not point to Gaza on a map.

The Neocons run the show, how can so few control so many.

Mike-C:

switchlogic:
Do what?

Control countries for their own ends. You suggested there is no “big world conspiracy”, i’m just pointing out some factual examples of America conspiring against Countries for the benefit of its Businesses.

switchlogic:
However Well known doesn’t equal true

Thats why i stuck to the ones they’ve admitted.

I think you need to reread what I wrote. I said I don’t believe every government in the world is controlled by the Rothschild’s and or Bilderburg. I’m not stupid, its well known America as well as others use whatever means at their disposal to control certain governments, that’s just fact. But are the Rothschilds and Bilderburg in control of everything? No, not in my opinion.

newmercman:

del trotter:
So you really believe what you posted, show me one Islamic country that is “stuck in the dark ages” , UAE, Saudi, Qatar? What progress has the western world made that Islamic countries have not kept pace with, all have mobile phone networks and internet access,satellite TV if that is how you measure progress. So you don’t agree with some of the laws,that doesn’t make them wrong, look at the US and its perpetuation of the death penalty, is that not from the dark ages?

How do the Zionist fund the extreme Islamists? I think you will find that is is other richer Islamists that fund the extremists, like politicians worldwide, or self funding through crime, telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne … ,certainly not the zionists.

What harsh penalties for anti-Semitic comments? Certainly in this country the same laws protect against religious abuse against Christians, Muslims and other religions?

Extremists exist in every avenue of religion/culture, white supremacists in the US for example, are they too funded by the Zionists or is it because they have strong Christian beliefs they are OK?

As for the theory that the royal family and politicians are in league with the Zionist, I’d loosen the tin foil helmet if I were you.

Yes I do believe that the general population in the Arab countries is living in the dark ages.

They may have big fancy skyscrapers and Starbucks in the big cities, but outside of them there is nothing and that is in part to do with the structure of their society.

Now to my claims (which are an idea, or thinking out loud if you prefer) that the jihadist groups are funded by the west (Zionists)

Israel is the sworn enemy of the Arab world, it can protect its borders, as proven recently by its annihilation of Hamas, but as soon as one group are wiped out, another takes its place.

It has been stated that Iran’s goal in getting a nuclear weapon is to wipe Israel from the face of the earth.

So how to deal with this? Easy, just give a few nutjobs some money/weapons and let them attack, publicise the hell out of it in the media that you own and get public support, then come down on your enemy with everything you have and finish it once and for all.

Like any fight, you have to take a few jabs before landing the right uppercut KO.

It is a fact that the Rothschild dynasty has a controlling interest in the banking systems of all but a few countries in the world. It is also a fact that they, through the Rhodes Foundation have the ear (or wallet) of many influential politicians and businesses, if they want something to happen, it happens.

With the current anti Muslim feelings in the western world, feelings that are perpetuated by media brainwashing, the people would feel a lot safer if the ‘good guys’ were to remove the threat once and for all, coincidentally ensuring the safety of Israel at the same time.

However, if that were to happen it would have an effect on the Zionist finances as there’s a lot of money to be made from war, so the constant turmoil in the region is just what they want.

There is arguably only any money to be made from war in the case of those who are flogging/supplying the weapons.The fact is just as would be expected the Israelis certainly aren’t supplying any hardware to the hostile racist bunch of Muslim nutters neighbouring them for obvious reasons.The arms in question being either Russian/Chinese or unbelievably in the case of some Arab states possibly American.At best all that just makes it more difficult to defend Israel.While at worst means the risk of Annihilation with the only way out in that case using the reputed nuclear threat to take as many of the Arabs out as possible with them.In view of all that how can it be any way in the so called ‘Zionist’ interests and ‘just what they want’ to be involved in that Arab weapons supply chain.In general the anti Jewish agenda of recent times can be traced back to either the socialists,who find Israel an inconvenient truth which goes against everything socialism stands for wether it be National Socialism or Socialism.Or to a lesser extent the British pro Palestinian/Arab agenda which has existed in the case of Israel from day 1 of the setting up of the Jewish state.As for me as I’ve said before go IDF.

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You’re right Luke, not every government is controlled by them, which is why there are still wars and ‘civil’ unrest going on.

They control the banks, by doing this they control spending, lending and growth and there’s an equilibrium, take too much away from one group and their financial systems will suffer to the point of implosion, so they have to balance things and make changes over time.

The important thing to consider in all of this though is that it doesn’t really change anything for most of us, we were fortunate to be born where we were, so we haven’t experienced poverty and persecution like many around the world.

In some ways I’m quite happy with the way things are, sure there are some massive injustices in the world and people are suffering, but that’s the law of the jungle, what the elite are doing is replicated in the animal kingdom too, it’s instinctive behaviour, their will always be a dominant male in every group, when it comes to humans we have a few dominant males, most are named Rothschild, but even though they take outrageous liberties at times, we don’t do too bad out of the deal.

I know I don’t wake up every day hating the establishment, I’m pretty happy in my little world. I’m aware that it isn’t a perfect world, but I’m also aware that I couldn’t do a better job than they do, so I’m never going to become an activist or anything like that, but that doesn’t mean I have to buy into their lies…

newmercman:
You’re right Luke, not every government is controlled by them, which is why there are still wars and ‘civil’ unrest going on.

They control the banks, by doing this they control spending, lending and growth and there’s an equilibrium, take too much away from one group and their financial systems will suffer to the point of implosion, so they have to balance things and make changes over time.

The important thing to consider in all of this though is that it doesn’t really change anything for most of us, we were fortunate to be born where we were, so we haven’t experienced poverty and persecution like many around the world.

In some ways I’m quite happy with the way things are, sure there are some massive injustices in the world and people are suffering, but that’s the law of the jungle, what the elite are doing is replicated in the animal kingdom too, it’s instinctive behaviour, their will always be a dominant male in every group, when it comes to humans we have a few dominant males, most are named Rothschild, but even though they take outrageous liberties at times, we don’t do too bad out of the deal.

I know I don’t wake up every day hating the establishment, I’m pretty happy in my little world. I’m aware that it isn’t a perfect world, but I’m also aware that I couldn’t do a better job than they do, so I’m never going to become an activist or anything like that, but that doesn’t mean I have to buy into their lies…

The fact is the Rothscchild empire has existed since the 19th Century.During that time we’ve gone from a greed driven form of Capitalism which included the last of the slave era and the Victorian one and the early 20th century.To the Fordist economy of 1950’s/60’s America and to a lesser extent 1960’s/early 70’s UK and now backwards to the post Fordist global free market economy.Which is all about the transfer of what remains of the wealth earn’t in those best case developed western industrial Fordist economies,to that of the elitist exploitative one led by Communist China.All of which suggests that the bankers like the Rothschilds are only a part of the problem.It’s governments who first and foremost run countries and the bankers will just take whatever advantage of that they can get.While it’s equally obvious that such a sell out would either have been a case of kick backs or political dogma or a combination of both.

However there are no motives for the Rothschilds etc to go for the kick back motive because they are already as rich as it gets.While,as the present situation shows,they don’t give a zb about politics either because they’ll make money from the Commies just as well as from the Fordist Capitalists.

Which just leaves the the question of the politicians and political Parties like the US Republican Party and the UK Cons and people like Nixon,Reagan and Thatcher.In which case the unarguable facts of the fortunes of the Chinese Communists and those at the top of that zb pile and how they got there speak for themselves. :bulb:

As for us being fortunate to have been born where we are.That ‘fortune’ wasn’t luck.That ‘fortune’ was the results of the efforts of those generations who went before us who turned the place into the modern developed industrialised economies which at least the US and UK had.Until at least people like Thatcher and Reagan threw it all away to help their Commy cronies.In which case don’t get too complacent because we’re now just living on the fast sinking remnants of what that earned for us. :unamused: :frowning:

It was luck though as my parents, grandparents etc never had SFA to do with any of the progress in the last few hundred years, that, whether you like it not came from the men at the top, the decision makers, including the Rothschild Dynasty and their puppets in government.

newmercman:
It was luck though as my parents, grandparents etc never had SFA to do with any of the progress in the last few hundred years, that, whether you like it not came from the men at the top, the decision makers, including the Rothschild Dynasty and their puppets in government.

Maybe not your previous generations for whatever reason.But certainly the combination of many other workers finally throwing off the shackles of the Victorian type idea of Capitalism,often at great cost to themselves in the form of union action and enlightened Politicians who made that massive leap,from that greed driven form of Capitalism,to the Fordist model.Which characterised those best case years of 1950’s/60’s America for example.The bankers not really giving a zb which system it was/is because they’ll make money in any case.Although as the Wall Street Crash proved a low wage economy won’t get anyone anywhere in the long term.At least unless,like the Rothschilds,they’ve made enough money to not need to worry about losing a few bob in the share markets.

Which leaves the questions of was it a coincidence that Kennedy ended up being assassinated and then Nixon and Reagan kicked off the process leading to where the US,UK and Chinese economies are now and was that a politically led process or a banker driven one.Bearing in mind all the above.

switchlogic:
I think you need to reread what I wrote. I said I don’t believe every government in the world is controlled by the Rothschild’s and or Bilderburg. I’m not stupid, its well known America as well as others use whatever means at their disposal to control certain governments, that’s just fact. But are the Rothschilds and Bilderburg in control of everything? No, not in my opinion.

Ah right. I read everything you wrote clearly, maybe i misinterpreted it when you mentioned “conspiracy theorists”. As its turned out a lot of them where correct.
But is/are the Bilderberg Group in control of everything? Great question.
I don’t see any Muslim/Islamic countries (or their diplomats), nor any Russian or former USSR members as parties involved in the Bilderberg group do you?
The countries that the West has problems with seem to have no Bilderberg Group representation.
I would summise that Bilderberg does indeed control its members, and of course cannot control non members, and in that sense pertaining to “us” it does control everything.
But as you say, strictly they do not control everything.
Regarding the Rothschilds, they’re Jews. Don’t need to say anymore. Not from an Anti Semetic point, but from the point made in the OP. Its Middle Eastern Muslims flocking here for protection in the back of containers, not Jews.