Star down under.:
tmcassett:
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
So why are you suggesting incompetence on my part in that ?.It was probably more to do with your incompetence at life in general to be fair
Harsh but 100% true!
Not so sure about harsh, but 100% factual.
Only by the strange logic which conflates refusal to trust the strength of brick and block packaging to secure/contain or lift it with deserves such personal insults.
Carryfast:
Only by the strange logic which conflates refusal to trust the strength of brick and block packaging to secure/contain or lift it with deserves such personal insults.
As usual, the village “person” claims expert knowledge with no experience.
If you’d put as much effort into the job, as you put into the bs bragging you espouse here, or spent avoiding physical exertion, you could have been a leading light in the industry.
Well, maybe that was a slight exaggeration, but you would have succeeded.
As for your claim of insults, if you had any experience in the industry, you’d know that it is a robust community in word and deed. Think about why you attract such uncomlimentary remarks, you attract them when you try to tell highly experienced men that you, with no experience, can do their job better.
Carryfast:
Only by the strange logic which conflates refusal to trust the strength of brick and block packaging to secure/contain or lift it with deserves such personal insults.
Still don’t get it do you…… 
Zac_A:
From my experience, I wouldn’t trust the vacancies on Indeed to be genuine, about five or six years ago I had a spate of applying for a variety of Indeed jobs, never heard back from a single one, even when they were a complete match for my experience.
It’s the number of people out of work right now, I’ve been looking for a job slightly closer to home and I’ve been blown away by the number of people all applying for the same job.
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Well-Jell:
Zac_A:
From my experience, I wouldn’t trust the vacancies on Indeed to be genuine, about five or six years ago I had a spate of applying for a variety of Indeed jobs, never heard back from a single one, even when they were a complete match for my experience.It’s the number of people out of work right now, I’ve been looking for a job slightly closer to home and I’ve been blown away by the number of people all applying for the same job.
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That may very well be true, but it’s like Amazon reviews: can you really trust the source without some corroboration? Call me a cynic if you will, but my first instinct with named companies on the internet is “Can I trust you?” Frequently the answer is between neutral to negative.
Star down under.:
tmcassett:
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
So why are you suggesting incompetence on my part in that ?.It was probably more to do with your incompetence at life in general to be fair
Harsh but 100% true!
Not so sure about harsh, but 100% factual.
#Me Four 
Back to our inter-dimensional wanderer’s assertion regarding packs of bricks - it only takes a little bit of shrinkwrap/banding to help the bricks stay together, it does not need to be structurally strong, it only needs to stop spillage.
Example: Does a beer mat (if you can find one these days) have waterproofing capabilities - no, but in days of yore you could carry mitt-fulls of pint glasses from a crowded bar to your table and not lose any beer, simply by putting a beer mat on top of the glass.
Same with bricks, the brick grab holds the bottom layer securely, the operator skillfully moves the load at a reasonable speed, with smooth fluid movements, nae bother. They’ll only fall off for an inexperienced and/or ham-fisted hiab operator who thinks he’s handling a wrecking ball.
But only in this dimension where people insist on experience, which according the the great sage CF must surely exclude “Surrey or Greater London” and the rest of Sarfshire Innit
I now eagerly awaint the verdict of The Great Sage on how wrong I am, and in which areas my “wrongness” is most clearly demonstrated
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
So why are you suggesting incompetence on my part in that ?.It was probably more to do with your incompetence at life in general to be fair
+1…
On the subject of helping another driver get a job where I am, I have only done it once, and that was my current job. I took nearly 15yrs to get what I consider a nice number, the person I helped get the job with I worked with for 4yrs at a job with only 3 drivers and lots of jobs together. So I knew exactly what type of guy/worker he is. I had no issue vouching for him.
If a job was on offer where I am I wouldn’t mention it publicly, BUT people have PM’d me before and I have given a fair overview of the job, they can send a CV, but if they mention me I make sure my boss knows I have no personal experience of the person so he will treat them as an “outsider” . It’s down to him to interview them and go from there.
In different jobs I have said to ffolk who have asked about a start at “my place” Its always I will try to get you an INTERVIEW, the rest is down to you.
Zac_A:
Back to our inter-dimensional wanderer’s assertion regarding packs of bricks - it only takes a little bit of shrinkwrap/banding to help the bricks stay together, it does not need to be structurally strong, it only needs to stop spillage.
Same with bricks, the brick grab holds the bottom layer securely, the operator skillfully moves the load at a reasonable speed, with smooth fluid movements, nae bother. They’ll only fall off for an inexperienced and/or ham-fisted hiab operator who thinks he’s handling a wrecking ball.I now eagerly awaint the verdict
You don’t need my verdict.You just go on believing all that and might as well tell the guvnor no need for a drop or cage sider for bricks and blocks and slabs the wrapping and/or banding will hold the load together fine without fail just like a bleedin beer mat would.IE the wrapping/banding is doing a similar job, of holding the load to the crane or the truck, as the lifting tackle or load securement does.
Looks like I learnt more during my short time of crap local building materials deliveries and multi drop agency work, while waiting for the call from the guvnor, calling me back to my decent, albeit not ideal, night trunking job after the promised temporary lay off to save a workmate’s job.
Experience indeed.
Carryfast:
You don’t need my verdict.
No, but the anticipation of receiving wisdom from an alternate reality is thrilling. It’s almost like “first contact”. I also live in anticipation that one day you might respond to someone on here (it does not have to be me) with an attitude of “Oh, is that right? OK then…” Or some other similar nod towards you being (dare I even think it?) “wrong” about something for once.
Carryfast:
Zac_A:
Back to our inter-dimensional wanderer’s assertion regarding packs of bricks - it only takes a little bit of shrinkwrap/banding to help the bricks stay together, it does not need to be structurally strong, it only needs to stop spillage.
Same with bricks, the brick grab holds the bottom layer securely, the operator skillfully moves the load at a reasonable speed, with smooth fluid movements, nae bother. They’ll only fall off for an inexperienced and/or ham-fisted hiab operator who thinks he’s handling a wrecking ball.I now eagerly awaint the verdict
You don’t need my verdict.You just go on believing all that and might as well tell the guvnor no need for a drop or cage sider for bricks and blocks and slabs the wrapping and/or banding will hold the load together fine without fail just like a bleedin beer mat would.IE the wrapping/banding is doing a similar job, of holding the load to the crane or the truck, as the lifting tackle or load securement does.
Looks like I learnt more during my short time of crap local building materials deliveries and multi drop agency work, while waiting for the call from the guvnor, calling me back to my decent, albeit not ideal, night trunking job after the promised temporary lay off to save a workmate’s job.
Experience indeed.
There seems to be a bit of a boom in people setting themselves up as freelance transport consultants at moment. With your staggering amount of in depth knowledge about the industry maybe you should consider becoming one. Give the world beyond Trucknet the benefit of your vast industry knowledge.
Zac_A:
I also live in anticipation that one day you might respond to someone on here (it does not have to be me) with an attitude of “Oh, is that right? OK then…”
Nah, that’s not going to happen when he has Google available at the click of a button.
After all, for someone who has achieved so little in this industry boy does he think he knows a lot.
Zac_A:
Carryfast:
You don’t need my verdict.No, but the anticipation of receiving wisdom from an alternate reality is thrilling. It’s almost like “first contact”. I also live in anticipation that one day you might respond to someone on here (it does not have to be me) with an attitude of “Oh, is that right? OK then…” Or some other similar nod towards you being (dare I even think it?) “wrong” about something for once.
To be fair there’s obviously a big difference between truck crane lifting systems today v what I had the misfortune to work with almost 40 years ago.
That method was by offset forks attached to the Hiab, put through slots in the brick pack, only held together by bands, no shrink wrap, almost half way up the pile, the whole lifting operation was totally reliant on the band’s holding at the bottom.Luckily they usually/always let go in transit on the load deck let alone the weight of lifting.
Everything else regarding that type of work being like doing home fast food deliveries around the houses, with the risk of causing catastrophic damage on your record, one way or another, stands.That and scaffolding were around the worst ever jobs I ever had the misfortune to do all with a clean record in large part not because I ever dropped anything off a Hiab but because the drop/cage sides saved the day in the frequent event of burst packs and if your able to reverse an A frame skele under a demount box then having to shunt a rigid around few badly parked cars in a Greater London residential cul-de-sac won’t scare you.
Carryfast:
Zac_A:
Carryfast:
You don’t need my verdict.No, but the anticipation of receiving wisdom from an alternate reality is thrilling. It’s almost like “first contact”. I also live in anticipation that one day you might respond to someone on here (it does not have to be me) with an attitude of “Oh, is that right? OK then…” Or some other similar nod towards you being (dare I even think it?) “wrong” about something for once.
To be fair there’s obviously a big difference between truck crane lifting systems today v what I had the misfortune to work with almost 40 years ago.
That method was by offset forks attached to the Hiab, put through slots in the brick pack, only held together by bands, no shrink wrap, almost half way up the pile, the whole lifting operation was totally reliant on the band’s holding at the bottom.Luckily they usually/always let go in transit on the load deck let alone the weight of lifting.
Everything else regarding that type of work being like doing home fast food deliveries around the houses, with the risk of causing catastrophic damage on your record, one way or another, stands.That and scaffolding were around the worst ever jobs I ever had the misfortune to do all with a clean record in large part not because I ever dropped anything off a Hiab but because the drop/cage sides saved the day in the frequent event of burst packs and if your able to reverse an A frame skele under a demount box then having to shunt a rigid around few badly parked cars in a Greater London residential cul-de-sac won’t scare you.
How did everyone else manage to do it, all around the world?
You’ve introduced your inability to handle scaffolding, further demonstrating your incompetence.
You’re constant claim to fame, being able to back a dog trailer, is a basic truck driving skill.
What’s on the next line of your resume, I can wipe my own bum?
Carryfast:
That method was by offset forks attached to the Hiab, put through slots in the brick pack, only held together by bands, no shrink wrap, almost half way up the pile, the whole lifting operation was totally reliant on the band’s holding at the top.
Edit effectively the whole weight of the pack was hanging by the bands because it wasn’t lifted from the base.From memory the bands weren’t even crossed front to back and side to side only one direction.Also even if any of the bricks shifted then that also allowed the bands to lose tension and the pack to collapse.
Star down under.:
Carryfast:
Zac_A:
Carryfast:
You don’t need my verdict.No, but the anticipation of receiving wisdom from an alternate reality is thrilling. It’s almost like “first contact”. I also live in anticipation that one day you might respond to someone on here (it does not have to be me) with an attitude of “Oh, is that right? OK then…” Or some other similar nod towards you being (dare I even think it?) “wrong” about something for once.
To be fair there’s obviously a big difference between truck crane lifting systems today v what I had the misfortune to work with almost 40 years ago.
That method was by offset forks attached to the Hiab, put through slots in the brick pack, only held together by bands, no shrink wrap, almost half way up the pile, the whole lifting operation was totally reliant on the band’s holding at the bottom.Luckily they usually/always let go in transit on the load deck let alone the weight of lifting.
Everything else regarding that type of work being like doing home fast food deliveries around the houses, with the risk of causing catastrophic damage on your record, one way or another, stands.That and scaffolding were around the worst ever jobs I ever had the misfortune to do all with a clean record in large part not because I ever dropped anything off a Hiab but because the drop/cage sides saved the day in the frequent event of burst packs and if your able to reverse an A frame skele under a demount box then having to shunt a rigid around few badly parked cars in a Greater London residential cul-de-sac won’t scare you.How did everyone else manage to do it, all around the world?
You’ve introduced your inability to handle scaffolding, further demonstrating your incompetence.
You’re constant claim to fame, being able to back a dog trailer, is a basic truck driving skill.
What’s on the next line of your resume, I can wipe my own bum?
I was a truck driver not a scaffolder or building site labourer.If I’d have wanted to be the latter I could have earned more than driving a truck.
I only ended up doing it on agency precisely because so many others wouldn’t shortly joined by me.
Obviously the problems I’ve described were/are well known bearing in mind the obvious improvements in truck mounted crane lifting designs.Also no one in the world with any sense relies on brick/block packaging as the only means of load containment if the packaging collapses.Although some are still happy to do so by using flat beds to haul them.
As for A frame reversing skills obviously not in the rush to inferior close coupled designs.
So crap local work not much different to being a local fast food delivery courier just using a truck and crane instead of a moped with all the added responsibility for no upside,
in terms of freedom of the open road.Which is why we generally choose the job and you know it for all your bs.
Zac_A:
Carryfast:
You don’t need my verdict.. I also live in anticipation that one day you might respond to someone on here (it does not have to be me) with an attitude of “Oh, is that right? OK then…” Or some other similar nod towards you being (dare I even think it?) “wrong” about something for once.
There are some things in life that will NEVER happen. :
Think that one is in the top 10…humility ain’t in his vocabulary.
As.somebody else said…He just doesn’t get it.
robroy:
Zac_A:
Carryfast:
You don’t need my verdict.. I also live in anticipation that one day you might respond to someone on here (it does not have to be me) with an attitude of “Oh, is that right? OK then…” Or some other similar nod towards you being (dare I even think it?) “wrong” about something for once.
There are some things in life that will NEVER happen. :
Think that one is in the top 10…humility ain’t in his vocabulary.
As.somebody else said…He just doesn’t get it.
You seem to have missed my previous admission that ( to an extent ) technology has moved on since the 1980’s in terms of crane lifting systems and methods.
It’s still crap work though regardless which is why agencies are full of it generally with no 'experience hurdles
Carryfast:
robroy:
Zac_A:
Carryfast:
You don’t need my verdict.. I also live in anticipation that one day you might respond to someone on here (it does not have to be me) with an attitude of “Oh, is that right? OK then…” Or some other similar nod towards you being (dare I even think it?) “wrong” about something for once.
There are some things in life that will NEVER happen. :
Think that one is in the top 10…humility ain’t in his vocabulary.
As.somebody else said…He just doesn’t get it.You seem to have missed my previous admission that ( to an extent ) technology has moved on since the 1980’s in terms of crane lifting systems and methods.
It’s still crap work though regardless which is why agencies are full of it generally with no 'experience hurdles
Please turn over, you’re talking through your arse.
