As the post says - I got an infringement for this working week but can somone tell me why and how to aviod in future as I am an agency driver I am left to work these things out myself :–))
Sat - 07:30 - 22:15 ( 14:75 )
Sun - 08:00 - 23:00 ( 15:00 )
Mon - 20:30 - 11:30 (15:00 )
Tues - 22:45 - 10:45 ( 12:00 )
Weds - 21:30 10:15 ( 12:75 )
MoffetWizard:
As the post says - I got an infringement for this working week but can somone tell me why and how to aviod in future as I am an agency driver I am left to work these things out myself :–))Sat - 07:30 - 22:15 ( 14:75 ) REDUCED - SHIFT OVER 13
Sun - 08:00 - 23:00 ( 15:00 ) REDUCED - SHIFT OVER 13
Mon - 20:30 - 11:30 (15:00 ) REDUCED - SHIFT OVER 13
Tues - 22:45 - 10:45 ( 12:00 ) REDUCED - REST LESS THAN 11 HOURS
Weds - 21:30 10:15 ( 12:75 )
4 REDUCED RESTS - ONLY 3 ALLOWED
NEEDED TO START AT 21.45 ON WEDS
MoffetWizard:
As the post says - I got an infringement for this working week but can somone tell me why and how to aviod in future as I am an agency driver I am left to work these things out myself :–))Sat - 07:30 - 22:15 ( 14:75 )
Sun - 08:00 - 23:00 ( 15:00 )
Mon - 20:30 - 11:30 (15:00 )
Tues - 22:45 - 10:45 ( 12:00 )
Weds - 21:30 10:15 ( 12:75 )
69.5 hrs worked,even with a break taken off that for each day will
still put you on 64.5hrs for the week…Max is 60hrs unless you start using POA
As said you’ve had 4 reduced daily rest periods between weekly rest periods.
If you’ve had an infringement notice it should tell you what the infringement is for, that’s the whole purpose of them.
xichrisxi:
69.5 hrs worked,even with a break taken off that for each day will
still put you on 64.5hrs for the week…Max is 60hrs unless you start using POA
You don’t have to use POA to keep the working time down, break will keep your working time down without wrongly resetting the driving time shown on the tachograph display.
Yesss thank you guys for you quick responses but it was due to 4 reduced rests instead of the 3. So by 15minutes earlier rather than later has cost me a sodding infringement. Pffff
Thank you for helping me on this one…But last question
If I would have started on Tuesday at 22:15 instead of 22:45 I am guessing that would also be a reduced ?
MoffetWizard:
Sat - 07:30 - 22:15 ( 14:75 )
Sun - 08:00 - 23:00 ( 15:00 )
Mon - 20:30 - 11:30 (15:00 )
Tues - 22:45 - 10:45 ( 12:00 )
Weds - 21:30 10:15 ( 12:75 )
MoffetWizard:
If I would have started on Tuesday at 22:15 instead of 22:45 I am guessing that would also be a reduced ?
Why would starting at 22:15 make any difference ? 
Tuesday was a reduced daily rest period because you never had 11 hours rest between Tuesdays and Wednesdays shifts.
You finished on Wednesday morning at 10:45 and started work again at 21:30, that’s 10 hours 45 minutes rest between shifts.
Hi Tachograph,
I am not sure you understood my ?..I am asking about starting at 22:15 on Tuesday as that would of been 10hrs 45mins rest from end of shift on Tuesday Morning… Would that of been a 4th consecutive reducded rest ? Making in fact Wednesday the 5th reducded ?
MoffetWizard:
Hi Tachograph,I am not sure you understood my ?..I am asking about starting at 22:15 on Tuesday as that would of been 10hrs 45mins rest from end of shift on Tuesday Morning… Would that of been a 4th consecutive reducded rest ? Making in fact Wednesday the 5th reducded ?
If you started at 22.15 on tuesday then it would change nothing because you still only have 9 hours of rest from ending monday because monday you did a 15 shift so 15+9=24
Forgive me if I’m wrong but I’m guessing that you’re making the mistake of thinking that a reduced daily rest period is when you work more than 13 hours and if you have less than 11 hours rest it’s another reduced daily rest period.
Those are the only criteria for a regular or a reduced daily rest period.
Even a rest period of more than 11 hours will result in a reduced daily rest period if less than 11 hours of the rest fits into the period of 24 hours from the start of the shift.
It’s all about how much rest you can fit into the period of 24 hours, the only reason some people refer to 13 or 15 hour shift being regular or reduced daily rest periods is because a shift of over 13 hours means you cannot fit an 11 hour rest period into the period of 24 hours from the start of the shift.
A shift of 13 hours and 1 minute means you can only fit a rest period of 10 hours 59 minutes into the 24 hour period.
MoffetWizard:
Sat - 07:30 - 22:15 ( 14:75 )
Sun - 08:00 - 23:00 ( 15:00 )
Mon - 20:30 - 11:30 (15:00 )
Tues - 22:45 - 10:45 ( 12:00 )
Weds - 21:30 10:15 ( 12:75 )
MoffetWizard:
I am not sure you understood my ?..I am asking about starting at 22:15 on Tuesday as that would of been 10hrs 45mins rest from end of shift on Tuesday Morning… Would that of been a 4th consecutive reducded rest ? Making in fact Wednesday the 5th reducded ?
The shift that started at 22:30 Monday and finished at 11:30 Tuesday was a reduced daily rest period only because you couldn’t fit an 11 hour rest period into the period of 24 hours, therefore you could have had a 9 hour rest period after 11:30 Tuesday and it wouldn’t make any difference.
Mr Tachograph & Mr Rog,
Thanking both of you…It’s sinking in now so looking to put this theory into practice going forward…
Yes I was looking at doing over 13hrs being a reduced and under 11 being another reduced but what I can see is it being in the 24hr clock rather than a rolling clock so to speak.
P.S been reading on trucknet for about a year now and seen both your names pop up a few times…Trucknet celebs 
) made my day lads…Cheers
HiGuys - I have another question for my working hours this week - Lets see if I have learned from last time.
This weeks working hours are as follows:
Sat 22nd 07:30 - 22:30 ( 15.00 )
Sun 23rd 07:30 - 21:45 ( 14:25 )
Mon 24th 21:45 - 12:00 ( 14.25 )
Tues 25th 21:30 - 12:30 ( 15:00 )
Weds 26th 21:45 - 12:30 (14:75 )
I am planning to work tonight at 21:45 as if I start at 21:30 would make it a 4th reduced rest …Am I correct this time round ?
MoffetWizard:
HiGuys - I have another question for my working hours this week - Lets see if I have learned from last time.This weeks working hours are as follows:
Sat 22nd 07:30 - 22:30 ( 15.00 )
Sun 23rd 07:30 - 21:45 ( 14:25 )
Mon 24th 21:45 - 12:00 ( 14.25 )
Tues 25th 21:30 - 12:30 ( 15:00 )
Weds 26th 21:45 - 12:30 (14:75 )I am planning to work tonight at 21:45 as if I start at 21:30 would make it a 4th reduced rest …Am I correct this time round ?
12:30 to 21:30 is 9 hours so that’s the time you can start work.
You cannot do more than a 13 hour shift tonight though.
Sent from my mobile.
Argh thank you Tachograph
No doubt I might be asking for more assistance in the future :-/
Diamomd