Easy question for you, how can two internal straps restrain 26tons eg a normal curtain slider with 26 pallets of pop?
OK:
Basically it can’t. Some drivers would be happy with all the pallets against each other up to the headboard but that wouldn’t stop them from sideways movement.
I always hated pallets of pop and would put upside-down pallets on top to strap them down. Much better in a fridge box with a couple of steel posts (was going to say a couple of poles:)) at the back so they stay upright.
Santa:
OK:Basically it can’t. Some drivers would be happy with all the pallets against each other up to the headboard but that wouldn’t stop them from sideways movement.
I always hated pallets of pop and would put upside-down pallets on top to strap them down. Much better in a fridge box with a couple of steel posts (was going to say a couple of poles:)) at the back so they stay upright.
Much better for whom, not the bloke with the pump truck 
Unless you can get a couple of poles to drive it 
So with my trailer I could strap the back two pallets with the internal straps…then get 24 empty pallets and 12 ratchets to secure the remaining pallets. Oh hang on…24 empties on top of 26 pallets of Cola would probably put me over 44 ton. I’ll takes me chances with load bearing curtains. 
It’s all I ever used on Stobarts,never really had any issues with load moving,like any load I suppose,you just drive to the load and road conditions.
Easy answer - don’t drive it like you stole it . Take your time and no sharp braking or cornering - you know that whole professional driver thing .
With beer or coke, if the slabs hold 12 or 24 cans are themselves shrinkwrapped and then the whole pallet is shrinkwrapped I would be quite willing to pull into any VOSA checkpoint with a curtainsider
2 crossed straps will stop them all walking backwards
Wheel Nut:
With beer or coke, if the slabs hold 12 or 24 cans are themselves shrinkwrapped and then the whole pallet is shrinkwrapped I would be quite willing to pull into any VOSA checkpoint with a curtainsider
2 crossed straps will stop them all walking backwards
Whats stopping the load from going sideways?
Saamon. If either off those loads were going sidewards you would be so far in the ■■■■ the last thing on your mind would be the load.
Saaamon:
Whats stopping the load from going sideways?
Before replying folks remember a load can fall off the side or come through the curtains just by taking evasive action to simply avoid a child running into the road or hitting a bump in the road whilst negotiating a long sweeping bend.
Would you all be happy taking 26pallets on a flat bed with two crossed straps on the rear?
And people wonder why we like working on tippers… Shut doors, sheet over, job done 
chester:
Saaamon:
Whats stopping the load from going sideways?Before replying folks remember a load can fall off the side or come through the curtains just by taking evasive action to simply avoid a child running into the road or hitting a bump in the road whilst negotiating a long sweeping bend.
Would you all be happy taking 26pallets on a flat bed with two crossed straps on the rear?
The UK has an awful approach to load security, no side boards, no anchor points on the bed and slip mats, wtf are them… 99% of companies dont bother shrink wrapping corner protectors in so even if you use your own it only holds the ■■■■ in the middle of the pallet. Internal straps are joke aswell, fine for holding light stuff but nothing else.
with wet stock even if you put a strap down the sides,the make up of the pallet means it would just split around the strap,when i deliver lucozade into middlewich i criss cross the back two straps and thats it
Wheel Nut:
With beer or coke, if the slabs hold 12 or 24 cans are themselves shrinkwrapped and then the whole pallet is shrinkwrapped I would be quite willing to pull into any VOSA checkpoint with a curtainsider
I dont know the ins and outs of it and why it is the case, but when we used to load at the Coca-Cola factory at Halle in eastern Germany for the UK we were ordered not to strap anything because the way they packaged and wrapped it conformed with the BAG rules for load securement so long as the trailer had the wood/aluminium boards in the side. For the Germans to allow it to move unstrapped is saying a lot and this was between 2006-2009 while I was doing that run so not a million years ago in more carefree days.
You wouldnt carry 26 pallets on a flat bed and secured with 2 straps.
Most tautliners have side bars which will restrain some pallets from sideways movement but ultimately if the load in insecure on the pallet you can be sure it will end up resting on the curtain and be a ■■■■■ to unload.
But you can have millions of opinions on why it needs fully strapping, Ideally you should have a fully barred up trailer (Vertical and horizontal) but if you were in a situation to make your load fall thru the curtain it wouldnt make a difference as you would probably have rolled the truck anyway.
robinhood_1984:
Wheel Nut:
With beer or coke, if the slabs hold 12 or 24 cans are themselves shrinkwrapped and then the whole pallet is shrinkwrapped I would be quite willing to pull into any VOSA checkpoint with a curtainsiderI dont know the ins and outs of it and why it is the case, but when we used to load at the Coca-Cola factory at Halle in eastern Germany for the UK we were ordered not to strap anything because the way they packaged and wrapped it conformed with the BAG rules for load securement so long as the trailer had the wood/aluminium boards in the side. For the Germans to allow it to move unstrapped is saying a lot and this was between 2006-2009 while I was doing that run so not a million years ago in more carefree days.
It may have been urnstrapped in Germany but allowed as it was restrained by the side boards and not by the curtains perhaps.
Saaamon:
The UK has an awful approach to load security, no side boards, no anchor points on the bed and slip mats, wtf are them… 99% of companies dont bother shrink wrapping corner protectors in so even if you use your own it only holds the [zb] in the middle of the pallet. Internal straps are joke aswell, fine for holding light stuff but nothing else.
I totally agree. It seems to me that the UK has proceeded forth with implementing German style load securement rules despite the fact that our entire transport industry and of course the manufacturing industry of which we serve, is totally incapable of running that way as nothing is built or set up for it.
For years now, all European trailers have had wooden/alumunium side boards with safely hold in light loads and they have all sorts of anchor points on the deck and practically all new Euro trailers now have hundreds of strapping points down the side of the trailer so that loads can be strapped even when the pallet comes right to the edge or even overlaps. All the time while this has been developing and exisiting in Europe, we here in Britain have been pratting about with trailers that have a few half arsed internal straps on a weak roof rail that has the load bearing integrity of a blade of grass and then having probably one side post either side and no boards, and maybe, if we’re lucky, 4 or 5 strap in points down the side of the trailer. Its not really good enough is it, not if we’re now to run like the Germans, but with our own substandard equipment that doesn’t have anything like the capability to do so.
As for manufacturers, they’re about as much good as the before mentioned trailers. They’re not set up for, and seemingly have very little desire to make and package their goods for safe travel. Everything is done as cheaply as possible and then we get blamed when it either falls over, or gets damaged when we strap their poxy cardboard packaging to prevent it from falling over. Very little seems to be taken seriously by UK shippers though, 99.9% of the time you have to write out your own CMR because they’ve either never heared of them or dont have them etc, despite the fact they’ve been sending loads to Europe for every bit as long as the equivilent German/French/Dutch etc companies have been sending theirs here, always with a proper shipper issued computer printed CMR. Industry in the UK just doesn’t care and the buck is always passed down the line to the weakest link, in this case, us.
chester:
It may have been urnstrapped in Germany but allowed as it was restrained by the side boards and not by the curtains perhaps.
Yes, sideboards were definetely required but given that a full load of coca-cola isn’t exactly light, it still surpised me that strapping wasn’t required when they’re so obsessed with load securement there.
In my opinion, we can’t even begin to take load securement in the UK seriously until we have the proper equipment to do so. That means proper trailers like Euroliners with more posts down the side, boards in the side and more importantly, the ability to strap the load with proper spansets, namely the dozens/hundreds of strap points found on new Euroliners. Implementing these new rules and then still having drivers carry on with a British curtainsider with no side boards, no strapping points and a silly little internal rail with internal straps is a joke. Its not the drivers fault what he’s given to work with, but it becomes his fault the second he rolls a wheel on to a public road in the eyes of the law. As usual for the UK, this whole thing was introduced arse about face.
Unless the customer requested it,most pallets of canned soft drink are not shrink wrapped.
They rely on the weight of the packs of cans and the way they are stacked to stay on the plts.
When i used to load out of Coca-Cola, Edmonton, for MJD, pallets of bottled pop, we used to cross the rear 2 internal straps…never once had a problem.