mark h:
Why not a sealed 1 ■■
Part of the test can be to check everywhere for drugs etc
ROG:
mark h:
Why not a sealed 1 ■■Part of the test can be to check everywhere for drugs etc
yerr but surely if its sealed then there cant be no drugs inside as it would have been sealed when arriving at the dock if tha makes sense ?
is there anything else i should need to know with taking up a unit with a container behind it on a skel ?
i have started a lgv intensive course on Monday and have my cpc mod 4 tomorrow im dreddding it, all the answers are in my head im just worried ill go blank at the test centre. 
Got my MOD4 on the 16th… the training place have sent me a load of sheets with all the questions and answers on, to learn in advance! 
when i get chance ill scan and upload to this thread 
B…
so i shouldnt use ratchet straps inside a box van off the loadlok track like my old boss insisted for restraining dutch (flower) trollies?
thought not
Great post, thanks for all the info.
hello,
found this video on YT may be handy to someone 
youtube.com/watch?v=-78wNQxofZ4
Regards
Jocker01
Hi, I passed my Module 4 CPC today with a 95% pass mark. I would strongly recommend learning the questions and answers on the below link, as this is all you will need to know. It worked for me
flairtraining.co.uk/PDF/cpcp … stions.pdf
Good luck.
jocker01:
hello,
found this video on YT may be handy to someone
youtube.com/watch?v=-78wNQxofZ4
Regards
Jocker01
From the same EP training school - youtube.com/watch?v=wK–gVI-WHI
did my mod 4 last month, in a Merc Sprinter 6.5t van 
NOPE
When i did the mod 4 test, I got stuck with one of the questions and the examiner hinted at the answer tbh he wasn’t taking the test seriously anyway he didn’t even get that trolly thing out!
Thanks to Big Brummie Macca for this post. Cheers mate!! 
Big Brummie Macca:
There is 8 different combinations each with 5 questions. The last one is always how you would do your daily checks but treat that as a way to top up your marks.I will try and remember the different questions and go through them as I done them. Firstly this is how the test works.
The examiner will come out to you the same as the driving test check you licence and you CPC mod 2 certificate if you haven’t got them you will not be able to do the test so make sure you have all your documents with you. You will sign to say the vehicle is insured and then lead him out to the vehicle where he will right down the reg.
Then the test will begin, remember you have 30 mins to do it in so take your time think about the question and if you dont understand what you are being asked ask him to say the question again.
My first question was about load security.
Remember that the vehicle is empty so you would place the load at the front up against the head board. YOU HAVE TO SHOW HIM WHERE DONT STAND THERE AND TELL HIM SHOW HIM. Then the second part of the question was what restraining device you would use. My instructor told me that because the vehicle was a box van I would always say tension bar (select what ever device your instructor recommends) then demonstrate how to use the tension bar (remember to leave a gap of about an inch on one side so you dont bend the trolley) Then he will ask you to release the device and place it back on the floor.
TELL HIM WHAT YOU ARE DOING ALL THE TIME AS YOU ARE DOING ITMy second question was about entering the cab and checks you would do before you drive away
Enter using grab rails and all steps and complete cockpit drill point out height indicator, seat position, mirrors, speed limiter sticker, hand brake on and gear in neutral. Start engine explain that you would wait for all lights to go out and no audible warning devices are sounding. Check there is sufficent feul for you jouney and air pressure gauge etc are reading okay. Roll the truck forwards to ensure the speddo is working.
Same again tell him what you are doing
My third question was about vehicle security at border crossing
This is a check of basically any where that any person could hide or drugs etc could be stashed. My advice here is to start in the cab check door pockets, cubby holes, behind seats and if there is a bed under it. Also if there is a sun roof open it and shove you head through it especially if the vehicle has a wind deflector. Check the side lockers as well there is usually a pull handle st the rear of the seat to release them but ask you instructor.
Then start on the outside of the vehicle I started at the steps on the drivers side. Walk around the vehicle SLOWLY checking any little hole or gap where something could be hidden, check the feul cap if it is not locked take it off and look inside it. Check under mud gaurds and all the way underneath the vehicle when you get to the back wheel after checking the mud gaurd get under neath the body so you can see to the front of the truck underneath then to the rear doors explain that is there is a seal on the vehicle you would check the number and make sure it is intact. There was no seal on my vehicle so I opened the door and looked inside. Then repeat the same process along the other side checking everything again and get under the body again and look. When you get back to the front check everywhere again and lift the front grill up and look in gaps etc. Then when you get back to the start point take a few steps back so you can see on top of the truck I done this at the front, side and rear of the truck. Another tip is as you are walking along the side of the vehicle explain that if a curtain side you would check for any slashes and TIR cord.
Remember to tell him what you are doing, take your time and check every where. MAKE SURE YOU CHECK FEUL CAP AS THIS IS ONE OF THE FOUR POINTS THEY ARE AFTER
My forth question was entering the cab correctly
Climb into cab using both grab rails and all steps, adjust the seat to your position and check mirrors and adjust if needed. Point out height indicator. Check handbrake and gear is in neutral then start the vehicle. Check all lights and audible warnings are extinguished and all gauges are reading ok. Then he will ask how you would leave the vehicle. Hand brake, neutral engine off. Check mirror and blind spot open door fully turn round and use both grab rails and all steps to exit close door and push the mirror in explaining that you would do that to stop any other traffic hitting it.
Same again tell them what you are doing as you are doing it.
Question 5 is always daily checks.
Again I started inside the cab. This is my routine that I am going to stick to
Check height inicator, Windscreen wipers work and washers, Horn, Reversing buzzer, tacho calibrated and speed limiter sticker. Look at mirror glass and all windows are clean and free from defects. Hand brake on neutral, start engine all lights and audible warnings out and check gauges feul air pressure etc. Then roll it forwards to check brakes and that the speedo is working. Then hand brake and gear into neutral and exit the cab PROPERLY.
exterior
Switch on all lights including fog lights, hazards, I started by drivers steps again and worked my way from top to bottom checking mirror arms are secure and side indicator is working. Check tyres for tread depth and around the side walls and wheel nuts if indicators are fitted check they are aligned. Work your way along the side of the vehicle making sure nothing is lose such as side impact bar, feul tank brakets are in good order all covers etc are secure and all reflectors are clean and not cracked. Then to the rear axle check trye again, wheel nuts security of mug gaurd and spray suspension and in between wheels for any debris. Check airbags for any sign of damage and under the wagon for any signs of damage.
Round to the rear check the bumber is secure, door is closed and secured, if there is a tail lift check it is in locked position and all lights are working and number plate is secure and light is working. Ask the instrutor to press the brake and put the vehicle into reverse to check brake and reverse light are working he will probably say it is ok but make sure you say it to him. then repeat along the other side checking everything again.
At the front check top to bottom make sure no lose panels all lights are working windscreen is ok tax disc and operators licence. Open grill explain that you would check fluid levels and indentify where they are and check number plate is secure.
Then the examiner will add up your scores and hopefully you will recieve a nice read certificate and a bit of feedback. Shake hands and say thank you to your instructor and go the pub
That is how my test went but some general advice that may help you is if possible get the you training centre around an hour before you are due to be there and sit somewhere quiet and go over the questions and try to remember the four points they are after you can stand there talking crap for half an hour but if you don’t say what they want to hear you will fail.
Think about your answer before you start, if you don’t understand the question ask them to repeat it. Think about the question and what the four points are that they want to hear.
Think of the examiner as a complete numbty and has no clue about trucks and demonstrate everything like you are teaching him how to do it. Tell him what you are doing as you are doing it.
My examiner said he finds these tests boring and he walked round and I didnt even think he was really listening, they are after four points which are worth five percent each so you have to get them in.
I hope this helps but please remember I am not an instructor so listen to what they tell you this was just to show you that you have to act it all out and really check everything take your time and you will be fine the slower you walk around the less likely you are to forget something.
If anyone has anything to add please do, this test is still reasonably new and I didnt really know what to expect before I done it this will hopefully give people a heads up before they do it.
GOOD LUCK
Made sticky by dd.
Great post BBM and a great help for newbies. I’m hoping to start class 2 training soon and this info will come in really handy. I’m a voluntary minibus driver at the moment and the daily checks are quite similar but there’s so much more involved in a truck so this post is really helpful. And big congrats on passing mod 4 too, well done
Thats a brilliant post, having just done the CPC Module 4 test myself its exactly what i did apart from a few different questions, there’s also a great EBOOK on flairs lgv training website which has all the possible questions that you can expect on the MODULE 4 test which was also a great help…
Good Work Big Brummie Macca…
SNIZ808:
Thats a brilliant post, having just done the CPC Module 4 test myself its exactly what i did apart from a few different questions, there’s also a great EBOOK on flairs lgv training website which has all the possible questions that you can expect on the MODULE 4 test which was also a great help…Good Work Big Brummie Macca…
Hi SNIZ808,
Could you try to remember some of the actual questions that you were asked and post them up for the other guys to read please??
We could then build this topic up until we have our own library of CPC Mod 4 Q’s and A’s.
hi thanks for the advice for the cpc mod 4 i have my test booked for dec 1st, and these posts will really help to get me ready for it, i will ry and remember what questions are asked so i can post them afterwards
Is there anywhere which lists the 4 points they’re looking for on each of the 5 questions ?
Hi Terry T, i am also doing my cpc module 4, i have my test booked for Dec 1st at 8:45, it is worth having a read of " the official dsa guide to driving goods vehicles" i am about a quarter of the way through it, also your training company should provide some training for it, i am training with Heads of the Valley training in wales, as part of my cpc training we have one days training split between the classroom and out on the truck doing the walkaround and looking at load security and correct loading of a vehicle, i have also found a link which was included in one of the other post you mind find useful
flairtraining.co.uk/PDF/cpcp … stions.pdf
all the best for your test and the future
dazza991:
Hi Terry T, i am also doing my cpc module 4, i have my test booked for Dec 1st at 8:45, it is worth having a read of " the official dsa guide to driving goods vehicles" i am about a quarter of the way through it, also your training company should provide some training for it, i am training with Heads of the Valley training in wales, as part of my cpc training we have one days training split between the classroom and out on the truck doing the walkaround and looking at load security and correct loading of a vehicle, i have also found a link which was included in one of the other post you mind find usefulflairtraining.co.uk/PDF/cpcp … stions.pdf
all the best for your test and the future
Awesome, thank you 