It’s not just the state of the road surface that is so bad these days, it’s the difficulty of seeing where the road goes that has become bordering on dangerous. I doesn’t matter whether it is an unclassified rural road, a B road, an A road, or a Motorway, there are long lengths of carriageway which are long overdue renewal of the cat’s eyes and repainting the white centre, lane and edge lines. Some twisting country roads are simply appalling.
Totally agree. And then there’s the tippers coming out of quarries and tractors mucking up the markings. I always thought they were supposed to clean up after themselves but I’ve never seen it enforced.
I found recently with the low level sun on wet motorways it’s hard in places that have had lots of roadworks as you can see all the left over lines/markers etc. I have watched plenty of vehicles drifting following old lines.
Compare our roads to the brand new roads in Spain with hardly any traffic paid for by the EU / in other words us. And we keep letting more foreigners in when we don’t have infrastructure to cope. It’s a joke.
mrginge:
I found recently with the low level sun on wet motorways it’s hard in places that have had lots of roadworks as you can see all the left over lines/markers etc. I have watched plenty of vehicles drifting following old lines.
Yes, defiantly this - even with Poloroids on.
definately 
could be a ploy for local council to slow traffic 
mrginge:
I found recently with the low level sun on wet motorways it’s hard in places that have had lots of roadworks as you can see all the left over lines/markers etc. I have watched plenty of vehicles drifting following old lines.
+1 on this.
Was on M6 south by J11 and it looked to me like the old white lines had been covered over with white paint, turns out it was black gloss which looked white to me, found I had loads of room though as others backed off 
Definately.
There are several major/multi lane roundabouts near me that most motorists seems to treat like the Arc de Triomphe. This is because all of the arrows lane marking have just disappeared.
I think the original idea of cats eyes has been compromised over the years to fixed reflectors if/where they are even put back after road renewal.The originals were made up of good quality reflecting glass lenses set in a rubber casing which was made to deflect down and catch the glass when driven over which automatically cleaned them.Although I think there were some issues with them sometimes being picked up by truck wheels and thrown into following or opposing traffic which could be dangerous considering the heavy metal casing around the rubber which set them in the road surface.
However they weren’t used on continental roads and in general the same main beam setting needed to show up cats eyes ahead will light the road up enough to see where it is going anyway.
On the other hand some of the new cats eyes are brilliant, i was on a road the other night and it looked like i was coming in to land at Heathrow it was that lit up 
chaversdad:
On the other hand some of the new cats eyes are brilliant, i was on a road the other night and it looked like i was coming in to land at Heathrow it was that lit up
They even work if you turn your lights totally off too
IRS2 studs are the future only used at one location in the entire uk apparently! Must be expensive then 
Kinda get where the op is coming from i know lots of sections of motorway where awe the lines are faded the cats eyes are ■■■■■■, really just guessing your lane discipline in the pitch dark.
And yet you can drive hundreds of miles on motorways over on the mainland and never see a single cats eye, unless a cat is crossing the road. They seem to mange to keep the vehicle where its supposed to be. 
Coffeeholic:
And yet you can drive hundreds of miles on motorways over on the mainland
What’s the ‘mainland’ then?
dri-diddly-iver:
Coffeeholic:
And yet you can drive hundreds of miles on motorways over on the mainlandWhat’s the ‘mainland’ then?
mainland Europe, as opposed to being a tiny island in Europe like uk
I’ve seen people all over the show at m6 j11 quite a few times. Are those IRS2 things at the exit of the port of dover. Seem to remember them being lit up brightly!! M6 south I think near j28-ish is bad for land markings as the sliproad is joining the motorway. Can hardly see the markings for slip/lanes in some places!! It does seem that many countries cope without them…France i seem to remember was devoid of them in quite a few places. USA I don’t remember seeing that many…just those bumpy round things between the marker lines!
merc0447:
IRS2 studs are the future
Have them in the Hindhead tunnel
green456:
dri-diddly-iver:
What’s the ‘mainland’ then?mainland Europe, as opposed to being a tiny island in Europe like uk
Oh those trucks that we often see on the hard shoulder with a car facing the wrong way in front of them? I get it now.
Who has seen the cats eyes on the roundabout in the middle of the A720 on the outskirts of Edinburgh.
They light up on the side the traffic is moving with the traffic lights.
I was in Toledo Spain a few weeks back, there are blue lights on the edge of the roundabout on the edge of the walled city that chase around looking like something from an eighties disco.
They only seemed to move when traffic was approaching , must have sensors in the road.
It was really odd.