got to work at 07:45…unloaded 2 lorries, 1 artic n one rigid… then i reversed my van onto bay for loading…1 sofa…then that was it for about an hour n half…then we put another 4 suits on…and we’re ready…one drop in falmouth, one in bodmin (shop) n then back for a delivery at 3pm.
drop off loan sofa to customer in falmouth, then onto the shop in penryn…drop of a 3 piece suite there…then onward to bodmin…get as far as truro nr tesco n call from office saying there is a corner sofa to goto exeter (bearing in mind its gone 11am by now) and they suggest we do bodmin first then back to falmouth to get corner sofa…bulls to that, mole tells him we’ll collect it from PENRYN (only left there 5 mins ago).
get to shop n mole goes to open the shutter…he reappears telling me that i have to do bodmin n exeter on my own as he has to de-weed the outside of the shop.
so off to bodmin i go…member of staff helps me get the items off, then off to exeter.
get to exeter to drop off corner sofa then get told to back van up as there is stuff to go on…i have to drag n lift everything (half of which is ■■■■■■■ heavy) to the back of the van, then all loaded up, just signed paperwork n they decide i can drop a dinner table chair of on way, i say yes as i only just started n dont want to get in ■■■■■ already…anyway i get to that drop at 5pm…then gotta get back to warehouse, its 18:45pm by the time i get back…baring in mind i am only paid between 8am-4pm so that was nearly 3 hrs free for them, and yes i wasnt doing anything between 8:30-10am but i wasnt able to go home till i had to start work and they were the ones that told me not to do anything yet (my boss).
i am ready for the grilling and telling me i’m a prat etc, so bring it on…but please be truthful with your views/comments plz.
Golden Rule; Get paid per hour & life will be sweet. In fact tell them if they cough up for the 3 hours they will have a driver for life. You are not a prat & you can turn the situation to your advantage…Keep your eye on the money . & remember 5 minutes talking to your boss is worth 3 hours of gossip on here. He will pay you. We won`t
at interview i was told that sometimes i may have work that makes me go over a bit, but when finished early i could go home…on tuesday i finished at 5pm, on wednesday i was finished and back at warehouse by 3pm, but had to help unload the artic that was there and finally finished at 4:10pm so they lied there, thursday i got back to warehouse at 2:30pm, but once again i was told i had to help unload the artic n 2 rigids and finished at 4:28pm, then yesterday as described above…also they said i would always have a drivers mate with me…but he was taken away for a job that the twit in the shop could of done in about an hour (i think they knew i would be late so made an excuse for him to do somethng else to do so he didnt kick off for being finished really late…was told i am paid from 8am-4pm.
oh and the person that owns the company (not my ex-boss) WILL NOT PAY OVERTIME…i guess it would eat into his millions…even though he is only in his mid 30s.
I’m not even getting paid for the 4 days i did, but i guess thats to be expected as i didnt give any notice.
they dont do time in lieu either…and i was very polite to manager…even told him it wasnt anything wrong with him or the other guys i worked with…i just felt that the company as a whole was taking the pee.
RookieTrucker:
I’m not even getting paid for the 4 days i did, but i guess thats to be expected as i didnt give any notice.
totall ■■■■■■■■. You worked it you get paid for for it. Withholding your pay is illegal pay a visit to the citizens advice bureau or a solicitor. Even take it to the small claims court yourself, its a case you will not lose.
someone pointed out that the manager could just say i agreed to a verbal contract that i had to give a weeks notice if i wanted to leave…my word against his and small claims court would cost me more than whats owed.
RookieTrucker:
I’m not even getting paid for the 4 days i did, but i guess thats to be expected as i didnt give any notice.
A firm I worked for about 10 years ago tried that one on me (not haulage though)
I turned up 1 saturday morning and said “I’ve been offered another job with more money”
“Take it” they said (trying to call my bluff)
“ok, I start monday”
“er, we need a weeks notice”
“tough, I start monday”
“oh, well you’ll lose your weeks pay then”
“Fine” got into my car to do my last day.
Got back at the end of the day, handed in the paperwork and said seeya
“er um, come back next friday and we will have your wages ready!!!”
RookieTrucker:
someone pointed out that the manager could just say i agreed to a verbal contract that i had to give a weeks notice if i wanted to leave…my word against his and small claims court would cost me more than whats owed.
somebody is speaking out of his backside. This is a clear case of unauthorised withholding pay and is 100% illegal. Mention that to your boss and you may find his attitude changes and you’ll get your pay.
The small claims court would not be too expensive. The system is designed for cases like this. The small admin cost they charge you just add to your totall claim so you will not lose any money.
RookieTrucker:
someone pointed out that the manager could just say i agreed to a verbal contract that i had to give a weeks notice if i wanted to leave…my word against his and small claims court would cost me more than whats owed.
That doesn’t mean a thing mate, notice or no notice he still owes you. Think small claims cost circa £50 to serve notice ? must be worth it and you’d get that back if it went to court.
Bottom line he owes you a week wages, nothing else comes into it… Withholding wages is against the law, period…
I’ve thrown the towel in many a time, but always been paid what’s due. Once had a TM threaten not to pay a driver… Understandably under the circumstances, the driver threw a wobbly, parked across some gates somewhere or other and threw the keys away… The result was the TM got sacked and the driver got paid…
Is an employer entitled to make deductions from an employee’s pay
By law, an employer is only entitled to make certain deductions from an employee’s pay. If the employer does not pay the employee at all, this counts as a 100% deduction. There are rules about what counts as pay for the purposes of when the employer can make deductions, see below.
In most cases, an employer can only lawfully make a deduction from an employee’s pay if the deduction is:-
required to be made by law. For example, employers are required to deduct tax and national insurance from their employee’s pay by law; or
allowed for by the employee’s contract. This means that there must be a specific clause in the contract which allows for that particular deduction to be made. The deduction can then only be made lawfully if the employee is given a written copy of that term in the contract before any deduction is made under it. This would cover deductions such as union dues or payments to a pension scheme;
or the deduction has been agreed to in writing by the employee before it is deducted.
Less than 3 months employment no notice is required
therefore they owe you the money no mater what they say just give em a ring and tell them youve spoken to the citezens advice buero and see how quickley they pay you
Always keep your eye on the Money .
And as for salary being better than hourly rate I disagree. Most of my working life I was on salary so that meant bank holidays ect . you were working because it cost no extra. Late in life I worked for an hourly rate & my pay went up & if I ran in on a Good Friday I got paid a full day @ treble time. Needless to say I also got all the bank holidays off as well on pay…
Go for a tribunal. It’s a lot less hassle & it’s free. ACAS (as part of the tribunal) will contact both parties to try to resolve the issue. If that doesn’t sort it and the hearing goes ahead you don’t need to be there, you can submit all the paperwork to them beforehand. If you can attend then it is much more relaxed than a small claims court. With a tribunal hearing, they will take into account different factors regarding the case, like the fact the boss lied to you in the interview about taking your hours in lieu etc.
I was taken to a small claims court a few years back. I had taken my class 2 licence through an employment agency (they had their own trainer). The deal was that they would cover all costs, and I would work for them for 1 year, paying back 50% of the fee over a certain amount of weeks. Not a bad idea to get me on the ladder. Once passed, they put me straight back into the same client I had been working for, for the last 6 months. The rate for class 2 was £6.50 ph, £9 o/t after 8 hours. This was fine for a couple of weeks until they starting paying me varying rates, from £5.50 to £6.50 an hour, overtime after 10 hours, just basically messing me around. All the money I’d lost in hours/ ot etc plus holiday pay amounted to wht I owed them for training. All I got was lies when I called the agency , so decided I wouldn’t work for them anymore. Also, they were deducting my part of the fee from my wages without documenting it on my payslip, which is illegal. I should have taken them to a tribunal at that point but chose to wait to see what they would do, or if they would ignore it. They didn’t and took me to court. Everything was going my way until I produced a letter that THEY had sent ME regarding them admitting that there was a problem. Their solicitor jumped on this (I was representing myself) saying that I had not submitted this as evidence. Outcome was that I had to pay (minus holiday pay owed, which they were trying to get round paying) the money owed. All that because of a stupid letter. That’s how murderers get away with it, some stupid technicality.
You don’t get all that with a tribunal and they will advise whether you have a case or not (which it sounds like you have).
thanks for the info and feedback everyone, i am ringing my ex manager on tuesday (they only work from tuesday - saturday so they dont have to pay bank holidays) and ask him when i can collect my pay…see what he says
