dozy:
Nb please don’t mention my name
Does Ms Jamieson know you as “Dozy”?
I am not sure why the OP wants to contact the DVSA, is it to report the employer, which would mean a raid by them , where they go back through all the tacho records until they find something wrong ?
It may end with a curtailment or restriction on their Operating licence with a reduction in units or trailers, a restriction on start and end times of the business .
Job losses and loss of contracts .
yourhavingalarf:
Anyone else…Ever do Zanussi washing machines (two high) under sheets off Southampton docks in the 80s?
Yes I was doing the Zanussi contract also but I was running out of Portsmouth to Luton
you have a pc, Google it.
Conor:
Own Account Driver:
XL trailers do not hold the load or allow the trailer to be righted, with even a very light load in situ, in the event of a rollover.Sorry but that’s exactly what they’re designed to be able to do, that is the whole point of them.
No, they are just a stronger curtainsider, they are still only rated to around half the payload against the curtain. In reality it is not a great deal more than a regular curtain it is just they bear a manufacturer’s rating.
A heavy washing machine only weighs about 100 kg. They are normally packaged in polystyrene so add about an extra 1kg! 
Dieseldog66:
you have a pc, Google it.
+1
or
if your going to be such a fanny about pish like this,get your traffic office to txt you confirming that your legally allowed to take the load ,and that they will pay any fine incurred by vosa etc etc.
or
close the curtains and get on with it instead of flapping. 2 high washing machines in a curtainsder are going nowhere.
So the trailer has internal nets and load bearing curtains and tou dont want to go with it ffs get a diffrent job i would run with that no hassel at all
Get a job on fridges no curtains to worry about
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that would be no good either.
by the time he would have double strapped 13 times across each row of pallets,then he would be late for his booking…then when he rebooked and got there,he would need a full 15 to tip when removing them…
Maybe a job on bulk milk tanks no strapping on them.
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mdourish:
Maybe a job on bulk milk tanks no strapping on them.Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
hhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm…
ive no concept of what that work entails,so cant comment on how much fannying about you could be doing… 
mdourish:
Maybe a job on bulk milk tanks no strapping on them.Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
He might phone up and ask how to strap the cow to the tank.
Colin_scottish:
mdourish:
Maybe a job on bulk milk tanks no strapping on them.Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
He might phone up and ask how to strap the cow to the tank.
possibly filling it by hand pumping the teats…
dieseldog999:
Colin_scottish:
mdourish:
Maybe a job on bulk milk tanks no strapping on them.Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
He might phone up and ask how to strap the cow to the tank.
possibly filling it by hand pumping the teats…
Is there a dcpc course for safe teat pumping
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possibly filling it by hand pumping the teats…
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Is there a dcpc course for safe teat pumping
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yep…big safe dave is the instructor.
Or to be safe…just ratchet them anyway…and at the delivery when you get a damage report, just phone the boss and tell him you dont know what what happened, all you did was ratchet them to full potential, and they bent the machines.
Its a dilema anyway as when i asked Vosa what should happen if i get a fragile load…he said: its not his problem, he is only there to advise, and his advice was: all loads have to be strapped, regardless of their content, or the weight.
I had 22 bags of china clay, they weighed 3/4 of a ton each, i had driven this load from the south of france ( including an emergency brake test ) not my fault, yet on the A23 Vosa decided to pull me, and upon checking, found none of the bags had been strapped, when i said they had not moved 1 millimetre, he said: Its an insecure load, and relieved me of £100.
The problem i have is the fact i have no proof that a load is either secure, or insecure, and would a court of law agree with me or mr vosa( i believe the latter ) and also that it would cost me far greater than £100 to prove my point. In the old days, a vehicle inspector would not have pulled me ( ropes and sheets were exempt ) as it was the only way to secure a load and keep it dry, but today, Vosa tells us that a tautliner is the same as a flat trailer, but with side sheets, and therefore not suitable except if the load is strapped down…now that is a dilema…as its only the driver who gets kicked in the goolies.
truckyboy:
Or to be safe…just ratchet them anyway…and at the delivery when you get a damage report, just phone the boss and tell him you dont know what what happened, all you did was ratchet them to full potential, and they bent the machines.
Its a dilema anyway as when i asked Vosa what should happen if i get a fragile load…he said: its not his problem, he is only there to advise, and his advice was: all loads have to be strapped, regardless of their content, or the weight.
I had 22 bags of china clay, they weighed 3/4 of a ton each, i had driven this load from the south of france ( including an emergency brake test ) not my fault, yet on the A23 Vosa decided to pull me, and upon checking, found none of the bags had been strapped, when i said they had not moved 1 millimetre, he said: Its an insecure load, and relieved me of £100.
The problem i have is the fact i have no proof that a load is either secure, or insecure, and would a court of law agree with me or mr vosa( i believe the latter ) and also that it would cost me far greater than £100 to prove my point. In the old days, a vehicle inspector would not have pulled me ( ropes and sheets were exempt ) as it was the only way to secure a load and keep it dry, but today, Vosa tells us that a tautliner is the same as a flat trailer, but with side sheets, and therefore not suitable except if the load is strapped down…now that is a dilema…as its only the driver who gets kicked in the goolies.
I agree, it’s not right to punish someone based on opinion, but the rules are clear (stupid though they may be), loads over 400kg must be lashed to the deck.
We transport a delicate load, and have done for years without a problem. Mr DV$A has a local sting operation and voila, driver is 100 quid lighter and our loads now get damaged by ratchets!
As for your last point, not quite right. Our company also got fined, not sure how much, but it wasn’t pocket change.
truckyboy:
Or to be safe…just ratchet them anyway…and at the delivery when you get a damage report, just phone the boss and tell him you dont know what what happened, all you did was ratchet them to full potential, and they bent the machines.
Its a dilema anyway as when i asked Vosa what should happen if i get a fragile load…he said: its not his problem, he is only there to advise, and his advice was: all loads have to be strapped, regardless of their content, or the weight.
I had 22 bags of china clay, they weighed 3/4 of a ton each, i had driven this load from the south of france ( including an emergency brake test ) not my fault, yet on the A23 Vosa decided to pull me, and upon checking, found none of the bags had been strapped, when i said they had not moved 1 millimetre, he said: Its an insecure load, and relieved me of £100.
The problem i have is the fact i have no proof that a load is either secure, or insecure, and would a court of law agree with me or mr vosa( i believe the latter ) and also that it would cost me far greater than £100 to prove my point. In the old days, a vehicle inspector would not have pulled me ( ropes and sheets were exempt ) as it was the only way to secure a load and keep it dry, but today, Vosa tells us that a tautliner is the same as a flat trailer, but with side sheets, and therefore not suitable except if the load is strapped down…now that is a dilema…as its only the driver who gets kicked in the goolies.
Firm near me has been to court three times for insecure loads. They haul the huge one piece quarry stones. When they get to court they get out the photo of great-grandad hauling the same with a horse and cart and then endless other photos of them doing the same over the generations then a picture of a trailer with a stone on lifted up to 45 degrees with a crane and the load not moving. They then quote their zero lost load record and ask the judge to find someone who knows more about hauling quarry stones than them, and they’ve never lost the case.
I was tipping a 20ft container last week ,it didn’t move until at least more than 45 degrees up ,it’s on Facebook somewhere .