Thanks for making that clear crunchie 
makes it a lot clearer now. Don’t know what to say today really guys. I know I have seen guys with a couple yrs experiance asking about turnpike work, all I can say is that you want your head seen to guys. The style of driving and the roads are so different to the UK its a complete shock now keep in mind they are tandem trailers to start with and are 53ft long each and trust me that extra 8 ft makes hell of a difference, the units are nearly twice as long as UK ones and the trailers are not close coupled not to mention fully freighted you will be about 63 tonne or round there somewhere. I would say get about 1 year of driving over here under your belt then give it a go if you still want to, if you gonna go straight for it don’t get me wrong I wish you all the best but rather you then me lol. Done the early morning drop now just out side milwalkee to see when my next drop gonna be done good old subway at the pilot here, can’t wait to park up in a town and get a steak lol.
Quick one bout the services here for those that don’t know. Ok so yea you gotta either pay $10 for a shower or use the points on your rewards card, but for your money you get more like a private bathroom then a shower, they are clean tidy with hot water (looks like pat picks the wrong ones 
) and fresh towels are supplied and they are washed down once you been in. Plenty of kit in the shops for your unit from a pair of gloves to a cb or tv not to bad priced have seen a cobra one with a chrome case for $99 but I have got bout $12 saved up on my reward card. That’s another thing get yourself a card more gallons you put in tank more points you get and over here points = money off anything in shop from a pack of gum to a subway roll not like in the UK where you get a free torch or map.
Cheers for putting us straight Crunchie,
Double points in The Flying J this month Taffy so get fuelling 
Lol not have to remind me there am in oak creek WI with half a tank but can’t use the flying j here waiting to see what time I can tip 20 mins down the road see where my reload is and see if can make it to next flying j with empty tanks. I will get my fridge on the points
Nice to see another face post on here to (not that I don’t welcome all help guys) am just shocked the interest shown in the topic its had over 4800 views I didn’t think it would be that popular 
again thanks for all the help so far guys and the advise I do try and take it all in and tell it how I find it
taffytrucker:
Nice to see another face post on here to (not that I don’t welcome all help guys) am just shocked the interest shown in the topic its had over 4800 views I didn’t think it would be that popular
Your just a popular Bloke Taff!!!
crunchygear:
You can do all the trailer changes you want in the US as a “Canadian driver” as long as the origin or destination of the load is in Canada. So in Taffy’s case he had a load of beef from Canada to the US and swapped trailers with a driver who had load from Little chute, WI to Calgary so both loads are cross border. Its only interstating when your load originates in the US and is then delivered in the US.
Its all about the load not the power or driver.
Well there’s proof that you learn a new thing every day, today I’ve either learned that I was wrong, or that crunchygear is wrong 
I was told (by my dispatcher) that I was the only one that could go to the US side of the border to collect the trailer that I’d dropped there due to a document problem that meant I couldn’t clear the load into Canada, he said if anyone else went it would be interstating 
If crunchygear is correct, it seems that he was just being an awkward petty ■■■■ and I feel a tantrum brewing 
I will look into this and find out the answer, I knowe the whole interstating thing is quite complicated, especially in Canada, the US trucks can take an internal load to get them nearer to home, the rules also depend on the driver’s residency/right to work and not the truck or the company, so a Native American can legally work on both sides of the border, a Canadian with a US green card/US citizen with a Canadian work permit/residency can run legally doing internals on both sides of the border 
That Oak Creek Pilot is just around the corner from a drop we do, it’s got a Starbucks next door, I haven’t driven past the place yet, my truck pulls in there on its own now
crunchygear:
You can do all the trailer changes you want in the US as a “Canadian driver” as long as the origin or destination of the load is in Canada. So in Taffy’s case he had a load of beef from Canada to the US and swapped trailers with a driver who had load from Little chute, WI to Calgary so both loads are cross border. Its only interstating when your load originates in the US and is then delivered in the US.
Its all about the load not the power or driver.
Not strictly true, I can’t do a drop, deadhead elsewhere and swap it for a loaded one, I can only re-load the empty trailer. We would be unlikely to get caught doing interstating or cabotage, BUT, if caught, the penalties are severe I believe.
We sometimes bobtail down to Indiana to collect new trailers, reload them and bring them back to Canada, there we tip the load then take the trailer to its new owner. One of our blokes had the finger up the bum treatment at the US border when he turned up and they asked him what he was doing, he told them that he was picking up a new trailer in Indiana, taking it to a customer of ours that is also in Indiana, where he would drop the new empty trailer and collect a preloaded trailer to come back to Canada. The US Customs went mad, said the internal movement in Indian was illegal (interstating) and that he was not coming into the country to do that, he could collect the trailer and bring it back empty or load it and bring it back to Canada, but if he picked a trailer up in America then it had to be taken out of America by him and nobody else
I’m confused
We had the same in europe when I worked for TDW. The boss bought 14 new trailers from schmit in Germany but we took the old ones out (can’t remember where to) left them there then went and picked up the new ones loaded them and back. I think long as you load the new one and bring its straight back you ok there if its the same as europe but ‘frowned’ on if drop and pick up a pre loaded.
newmercman:
We sometimes bobtail down to Indiana to collect new trailers, reload them and bring them back to Canada, there we tip the load then take the trailer to its new owner. One of our blokes had the finger up the bum treatment at the US border when he turned up and they asked him what he was doing, he told them that he was picking up a new trailer in Indiana, taking it to a customer of ours that is also in Indiana, where he would drop the new empty trailer and collect a preloaded trailer to come back to Canada. The US Customs went mad, said the internal movement in Indian was illegal (interstating) and that he was not coming into the country to do that, he could collect the trailer and bring it back empty or load it and bring it back to Canada, but if he picked a trailer up in America then it had to be taken out of America by him and nobody elseI’m confused
Not really confusing, as, in my case, the empty trailer could be moved by a US driver between two US places as it is being moved by me after the only allowable work (delivery in US) has been finished by me, and I will not be returning with that trailer, so effectively I would be doing ‘other’ work in the US by moving an empty trailer, therefore taking an Americans job off him.
Hang on… I’m making it sound MORE confusing LOL 
Yea that’s the stop mark think ill be off to starbucks in the morning
Mick, you can tip a trailer and run empty for a reload from Miami to Seattle if you want, but dropping a loaded trailer, switching for an empty and running somewhere to drop it and switch for a loaded one is not allowed as the empty leg is interstating, you picked up a trailer in the US and delivered it in the US, as a Canadian (plastic) you cannot do internal movements in the USA
newmercman:
Mick, you can tip a trailer and run empty for a reload from Miami to Seattle if you want, but dropping a loaded trailer, switching for an empty and running somewhere to drop it and switch for a loaded one is not allowed as the empty leg is interstating, you picked up a trailer in the US and delivered it in the US, as a Canadian (plastic) you cannot do internal movements in the USA
Sorry Mark you’re right, I misunderstood the rule…
A driver may deadhead a trailer from one location
to another within the United States PROVIDED
the deadhead trailer is either the one the driver
came in with or the one he/she is departing with.
The driver may not haul an empty trailer from one
location in the United States to drop it off at
another location the United States.
Interesting discussion, every day’s a school day. Nice to learn and hear about how things work in other countries. How do you do your manual logs over therw? No, I don’t mean in the thunderbox before photos of different crap housea grace the pages! Can we (I !!) See more photos of what is and where you are going? Your unit/rig, destinations, truckstops, things you see along the way? Be nice to visualise what goes on. Or does anyone else out there have a thread going which I have missed?
Ta, NRT.
A Canadian truck can move empty trailers from place to place in the US.
The important part is that a Canadian company does not get paid by a customer for the moving their own empty equipment.
As a customer is only billed for the load that is carried and not for any dead-heading; the moving of empty trailers is done at the Canadian company’s expense.
No US company is going to move Canadian trailers about in the US for nothing; so you are not doing work that could be done by a US company. There fore it is not “Interstating or Cabotage.”
I’m with Crunchygear on this one.
Ill see what I can get posted NRT but for some reason my phone posts then sideways lol am sure pat n mick got some pics around somewhere feel free guys. Tbh the flying J and pilots are just like you MSA’s in the UK just big chains but they want your money off you and look after the driver a bit. As for log books I just update mine every time I stop never have runt bent for anyone and don’t intend to start now, what guys forget is that they have been using log books over here since the year dot so there for know about 99.9% of ways to cheat them plus its my PR at risk if loose my class 1 so not worth it for a couple extra $
My laptop is out of order atm using my phone maybe pat or someone from my fb can drag a few photos over 
ChrisArbon:
A Canadian truck can move empty trailers from place to place in the US.
The important part is that a Canadian company does not get paid by a customer for the moving their own empty equipment.
As a customer is only billed for the load that is carried and not for any dead-heading; the moving of empty trailers is done at the Canadian company’s expense.
No US company is going to move Canadian trailers about in the US for nothing; so you are not doing work that could be done by a US company. There fore it is not “Interstating or Cabotage.”I’m with Crunchygear on this one.
That does make sense Chris, but when big George got the tug at Pembina he told them about moving the new empty trailer from Lafeyette to Frankfort and then dropping it, that was a no no, even though that trailer was, as far as they knew, one that our company had just bought, even though one of our trucks would be going in there to pick it up when it was loaded, it was still cabotage
reckon we can all get this now canadian drivers dont move nothing in USA internal…USA drivers can carry stuff anywhere or even canada easy ■■?..