Yes Big Truck, the Freightliner Columbia is a fleet truck bought by large companies (like mine) because they want quantity , it’s at the lower end of the range of trucks they offer, higher end models being more appealing to drivers but not to accountants 
Charles
bobthedog:
Maybe Harry was tired but at least he read the posts on the thread fully.I don’t work for H&R. I have never worked for them nor do I wish to. I don’t care if you know a great deal about them because it has nothing to do with me.
My post was directed at someone who was knocking the firm in, I thought, an unjustified manner. I also thought he was directing his ire at those who elect to start a new life over here. He may have influenced a prevaricator who was on the brink of choosing to come here and I dropped my tuppenceworth in.
Now then, regarding Harry. He was tramping virtually worldwide when I was a nipper. He has seen some amazing things and he enjoys hearing of the world at large because it is accessable via the net. His friend ahs come out here to work for the named company and is happy with them. If you don’t like them then PM the other dissenters and have a long chat about it with them. I would trust the others before I trust your words because, reading between the lines, there is clearly some bad blood there.
Not my problem, nor Harrys, nor Vast Exps. Just yours.
Well Btd, Im quite capable of understanding what was posted, perhaps you should reread this thread from the start as you have been corrected by the moderator already for getting it wrong.
My point is that Dave stated his post was his opinion, look the word up if you dont know what it means, you kept ripping him about proving it with the facts. You go on about how things are at this company , yet you state that you dont work there and know nothing about them. When I post that I know about this company to harry you misread the post and think it was directed to you.
You insinuate that there must be bad blood between me and this company. How do you come up with that, just because i know them and have for many years??. Where in my post did you get "bad blood’ from?? This company is no worse and no better than most large companies. I just find it strange that a company that goes to all the effort and expense to arrange interviews over there, cant get there act together to make it to a job fair. thats under way while they are in the area.
When you post that "you dont trust my words", you are calling me a liar, And I dont care for that at all. If you cant read and understand the posts and if you dont realize that some of us have been dealing with this and other companies ,including the one in Steinbach, where it just so happens that i lived for time, then think again. This trucking industry in Canada didnt start when your plane landed here. The company you work for , the other company , and the company i own all belong to some of the same trucking associations, so yes I do know of what i post. Ill state again, where`s the bad blood??
Yawn… 
well chaps,about the tripacs,yes they are there for other reasons,ie idling,thats a big issue with these things,but i did not want to bore everyboby with the finer details of the tripac,the resale of the truck may or may not be affected by these things in the future as they become a normal standard fitting to trucks,but at the momment the resale value will be higher as they are a newish thing on the market.
this freightliner is not singing and dancing,no bells or chimes,its a basic accountants model,look at it on the lines of a iveco strallis,but its got room and very little technology just the way i like it.
now the other truck i had,well i went on my jollies,when i came back it had been given to another driver,i have not seen it since,by the way there was not scatch on it when i left it.
the turn over of drivers in canada i have been led to believe at most big companies is huge.they walk at 10am and have another job by 12am,and the same can be said for the small companies aswell.
i came to canada with an open mind expecting the worst,anything above that was going to be a bonus,as its turned out its good enough for me at the momment,but that could change.if i could find a job and company half as good as this one in the uk it would be a miracle,
keep it up bobthedog i knew you wasnt having a pop at me,it was my grammar,
please excuse the spelling nd the grammar,i am a steering wheel attendant not a tie pist.
How ould I know. I am not in the least bothered if you care for my words either. I most certainly did not call you a liar, nor would I have reason to. The reason I posted at all was because I know how things work in the UK. I really do know! I have no need to insinuate anything either. There is some reason for you speaking up for someone else who was berating a large employer and then defending by virtually attacking.
Oddly enough, that would seem to be what you were doing with Harry. At the end of the day, Harry is in touch with someone at the firm in question and they are more than happy with the way they have been treated. Someone else berated the firm without actually being there and that is no way to carry on. Their bone of contention was that the company didn’t manage to get a stand at a trade fair, and that they approached people who were visiting the fair. I pointed out that even the firm I work for had trouble with the systems in the UK. That was about it.
Now you have launched yourself into a forum discussing a Canadian firm and you are, without doubt, on the attack. That is where my impression, and that’s all it is, of bad blood came from. You are defending a person from the UK who has almost certainly no intention of heading west to try the job, and who was specific about the faults of one specific company. It seems obvious that you are either a friend of his or that you bear animosity against the company and those who work there.
It makes no difference to me. It really doesn’t, but you are quite insulting to Harry and myself and you have no justification for it, no matter what you think.
As for the fact that you used to live in Steinbach…? Your point is? I still live there and I would quite happily remain in the area. People here are much nicer than in many areas. You don’t get nearly as much contention.
Anyway, enough said. It’s getting boring now. I imagine many others are waiting in the wings to deliver more insults or whatever just to help someone else out of an unworthy position.
If you come back with insults you will be ignored by me. they are simply too boring to deal with. I really can’t be bothered.
Harry, you were right… Yawn. 
bobthedog:
If you come back with insults you will be ignored by me. they are simply too boring to deal with. I really can’t be bothered./quote]
The only one dishing out insults on this thread is you. It seems that when you can`t support your posts , you make it personal… Well so much for a battle of wits with you and harry , you both seem to be out of ammo as well as half asleep (yawn) . too bad, this was pretty good entertainment for awhile !!
casey, do us all a favor,put your face where the monkey puts its nuts
Well said, vast.
Sorry Casey, but I fail to see how I have not “backed up my posts” or have “dished out insults”. I have nothing to back up. I said nothing derogatory to you. I simply suggested that I wouldn’t trust your words. I don’t feel that you are as objective as you are trying to suggest. You clearly have something to say about H&R, so say it. Your own words, please. Not something you cook up with anyone else.
In fact, I fail to see where you are going with any of this. If you want a battle of wits then start a thread of your own and be objective, subjective and original. Be contentious, and you can have as good a battle as you want.
Personally, I think Harry or me could eat you for breakfast and still have room for toast and marmite.
bobthedog I took him half seriously until he let slip that he operated trucks. We have all done that & realized the mistake but in my book its something you should keep quiet about until it blows over… 
2 or 3 little slips,Harry. Used to live in Steinbach is another. Seems to me this is a familiar thing. Someone gets contentious then another pops up in his defence a week later. New user, or a person who seldom posts. 
Besides all of this, I am not sure they belong to the same organisations. I am led to believe that most of my firms organisations are purely provincial, although some others must be necessary for the USA work I imagine. It makes no difference at all. The company I work for are good and solid. They celebrated 58 years in business last year and are still here. They treat me very well and I enjoy working for them.
Now, clearly, Vast enjoys working where he does. He clearly feels that he is fairly treated and clearly enjoys the work. DM does not work for either. Neither, I suspect, do you.
The one person who is in a real position to comment on the firm has done so. He works there, and has stated that things are going well. With that in mind, tell me where your problem lies.
When I waded into this thread I did so because I had heard similar things said about my firm. Now I know- I mean KNOW!!- that they had trouble organising their meets last year. I was here and saw and did what I could to help. That was why I felt, and still feel, that the comments were a little unjustified. My comments on here, and elsewhere where the dog wanders, are my opinion and I have just as much right to state them as anyone else. I do not think it necessary to point out that they are my opinions because that is, after all, the point of forums.
I was simply being, in my opinion, fair to the firm in question. I don’t know them like Vast does. I don’t know for sure that they didn’t simply try to get drivers to sign up and were too tight to get a stand of their own. I don’t actually care.
But neither does Davie. He simply states it then covers himself with this “my opinion” thing.
You can question my pedigree, my experience, my knowledge of the industry at large, even my parentage if you choose. Again, I don’t care. It makes not a single iota of a difference to me what you say. If you wish to know, then I am a former O/D who succeded where many didn’t. that doesn’t mean I think I was better than anyone else, but that I was maybe luckier than some. I have driven all over Europe and have had the privilage of moving to Canada to continue my lifes journey.
I wouldn’t dream of suggesting that I know all there is about Transportation in North America. I wouldn’t say it about Europe or even the UK. But I have driven over there and I have driven over here. Every day I learn something new and I am getting the impression you feel you don’t need to.
I very much doubt you know it all, either. I know for a fact that those who shout the loudest are usually those who tried and didn’t have the wherewithal to see it through.
And before you suggest anything, I only ever get contentious with those who shout dissent at others who have bottle enough to go for their dream or feel that any tightening of nonsense regulations is good because they can get more for less.
Keep trying, Casey. You can’t possibly get anywhere with it, but while you sit there composing against me you are giving others a break.
bobthedog When are we going to see those snaps of the Rockies in Springtime…? Forget these numpties with their secret agendas. I feel if you were in a truckstop & heard their voices your natural truckers instinct would cause you get as far away as possible from 'em. Its only when they can slip in a few printed words on a truck thread that they are given time of day. The World is full of 'em. Sad…
PS. And The News of the World…
bobthedog:
Besides all of this, I am not sure they belong to the same organisations. I am led to believe that most of my firms organisations are purely provincial, although some others must be necessary for the USA work I imagine.
Yes, the associations that we both belong to are provincial as well as federal.It makes no difference at all. The company I work for are good and solid.
I fail to see the connection between stating that we belong to the same associations and you stating they are good and solid. i didn
t make any reference in any post about Big freights stability so why did you bring it up. Further more i didnt question or make any comment about H & Rs as well.They celebrated 58 years in business last year and are still here. They treat me very well and I enjoy working for them.
Yes , the Coleman family has been in the industry for a long time, which goes to my point about when i lived in Steinbach, although they were called South East then.Now, clearly, Vast enjoys working where he does. He clearly feels that he is fairly treated and clearly enjoys the work.
Please show where i stated that anyone was not happy working for BF or H & R??
DM does not work for either.
I don`t know where DM is working.Neither, I suspect, do you
.
Well good for you, figuring that out , especially when I said Ihave my own company.The one person who is in a real position to comment on the firm has done so. He works there, and has stated that things are going well. With that in mind, tell me where your problem lies.
I don`t have a problem at all, I commented on things posted on this thread and the way they were posted and for some reason you and harry and this vastly guy think that no one else should be allowed to express an opinion or make point about something one of you has posted.
When I waded into this thread I did so because I had heard similar things said about my firm.
This is pretty poor reaason for being so hostile about DM`S post because Big Freight was not mentioned at all. Think of another excuse quick.Now I know- I mean KNOW!!- that they had trouble organising their meets last year. I was here and saw and did what I could to help. That was why I felt, and still feel, that the comments were a little unjustified. My comments on here, and elsewhere where the dog wanders, are my opinion and I have just as much right to state them as anyone else. I do not think it necessary to point out that they are my opinions because that is, after all, the point of forums.
Yes ,That
s the point of these forums,opinions, and thats why it appears that you and your two buddies won`t let any one else do . State an opinion that differs from your own. You demand facts to support other posters opinion ,but none of you three offer anything more than hunches and innuendo and truck stop gossip to support your posts and when questioned you shrink away from answering and sail of on a personal attack.I was simply being, in my opinion, fair to the firm in question.
Now when you need an excuse ,you choose to hide behind an opinion.I don’t know them like Vast does. I don’t know for sure that they didn’t simply try to get drivers to sign up and were too tight to get a stand of their own. I don’t actually care.
For some one who says he doesn
t care you certaiinly have made al lot of posts about a company that now you say you "dont know for sure"But neither does Davie.
Correction needed here… Dave was at the Job fair, you were not.
His comments were about the job fair and the way H & R semmed to deal with it.He simply states it then covers himself with this “my opinion” thing.
Let me reply in your own words" they are my opinions because that is after, after all, the point of forums"
You can question my pedigree, my experience, my knowledge of the industry at large, even my parentage if you choose. Again, I don’t care. It makes not a single iota of a difference to me what you say. If you wish to know, then I am a former O/D who succeded where many didn’t. that doesn’t mean I think I was better than anyone else, but that I was maybe luckier than some. I have driven all over Europe and have had the privilage of moving to Canada to continue my lifes journey.
Im not questioning your pedigree,your experience or your parentage. Im only questioning your alleged knowledge about a company that you stated you know nothing about and then start stating what may or may not have happened at a job fairI that you were not at.i wouldn’t dream of suggesting that I know all there is about Transportation in North America.
I think it`s to late for you to try and take that back.
I wouldn’t say it about Europe or even the UK. But I have driven over there and I have driven over here. Every day I learn something new and I am getting the impression you feel you don’t need to.
Wher do you get that from, is this another of your amazing ability to be able to read betwqeen the lines? ( from one of your earlier posts) Please btd, save it for your two buddies, because one thing this thread has shown me is your inability to follow a thread and or comprehend what it is you are reading.
harry and vastly van insert there grunts and yawns there.
I very much doubt you know it all, either. I know for a fact that those who shout the loudest are usually those who tried and didn’t have the wherewithal to see it through.
Didn`t say I know it all, I only know some of it. I think the only one shouting here is you
And before you suggest anything,
Sorry too late,I only ever get contentious with those who shout dissent at others who have bottle enough to go for their dream or feel that any tightening of nonsense regulations is good because they can get more for less.
You seem to be slipping off the thread here, no one`s shouting dissent and no one is talking about regulations.
Keep trying, Casey. You can’t possibly get anywhere with it,
Im already there BDG. but while you sit there composing against me you are giving others a break. harry and vastly went for a bathroom break? sorry i couldnt resist slipping it in there
harry:
bobthedog I took him half seriously until he let slip that he operated trucks. We have all done that & realized the mistake but in my book its something you should keep quiet about until it blows over…
Some of us succeed at this business and some of us do not. Sorry you didn`t make ago of it…
vastly exp:
casey, do us all a favor,put your face where the monkey puts its nuts
Vastly you can forget it, there is no way i`m going to give you a kiss!!
Sweet Baby Jesus and The Orphans
Hi Guys,
I did say that I would not post again but I feel that since I started all this nonsense then I should reply to some of the last statements.
Firstly before I start I really want to make it clear that I do not know anything about H&R apart from the contact I had at the Expo. I did mention before that as far as I was aware they are a good reputable company.
I don’t know Harry, Vastly, Casey, Steve, Bob or any other posters here the only contact I have ever had with any of you is asking for help and advice on this site, some have helped and replied and others have not and that is it really….nothing untoward or dodgy or anything.
I must also say that when I have looked back over some of my comments it is quite embarrassing reading some of them and if I have offended anyone then I apologise as some are quite confrontational. I think in the spirit of this forum an apology is necessary as it was I who started this discussion and it has resulted in others falling out….at the end of the day were all drivers here.
To put the record straight I never ever ever intended to slate H&R it was the way in which I was approached which I disagreed with. The stand at the Expo was never really an issue it was the excuse that was made about the stand for the reason of what looked like underhand recruiting tactics. When people are representing a company in any capacity the contact you have with the public needs to be impeccable as you are the front end of that company. Now this can be in any capacity, a recruiter, a manager or even you guys as drivers on the road you all MUST agree with that. The first impressions people have with that company is what they see and come across. If you constantly see trucks on the road that are falling apart or dirty or the drivers are careless or rude what will be you impression of that company (no not H&R I mean a fictional company). Therefore what I said was I was not too impressed with the first initial contact with H&R as I felt the front end ambassadors of the company didn’t do it justice
Then again I have been corrected on this and been told it was just me getting the wrong end of the stick I must therefore also apologise to Steve and Annette about the mix up regarding the situation there.
Is this just me then can nobody understand this that when your representing your company you have to be careful regarding the image you portray.
I think when your in a situation you can gauge the situation and get the feeling everything is not what it seems especially when someone seems a bit edgy about things….you know what I mean it’s difficult to explain but you just get that feeling. I also did say that if I was wrong then please come back to me and put me straight as I have said in other postings if I’m wrong then tell me.
As I said if I am wrong then put me straight and I will apologise so I have therefore been big enough to apologise in this matter and the last thing I would want is to have everyone falling out on my behalf over this.
Bob……you slated me a bit for spouting off and never having any intention on a move as I said now not before 2012. The reason for this is a personal matter regarding one of my kids and a move at the moment is just not possible. I did intend in being in CA 2008. People do have issues out of their control and whether I like it or not a move at present is out of my control. I was a bit taken aback as the advice you have given me in the past has been invaluable. The “Opinion” Thing was just a figure of speech and not meant to cover anything not sure what you meant about that it is just the way I expressed the posting I made I suppose.
I also am not trying in any way to put people off making the move to CA on the contrary I would encourage people as this place they call Great Britain is no longer Great it’s a real shame but this place has gone to the dogs and I can’t wait to leave and if things work out then I will be there before 2012.
What I do find a bit strange though is you or any other posters here never had a go at andy c when he mentioned the guys there and trusting them…why is that?
Harry & Vast I also apologise to as I don’t know either of you and obviously have many years experience in all areas of haulage and bickering is rather childish after all.
H&R as I have said are as far as I know a decent company I have never heard anything untoward regarding them you all seem happy there so they must be making you like the life the pay scales from what they advertise look decent enough.
I think the arguments here have run their course eh.
Cheers D
PS If I’m wrong please come back to me.
DAVIE_MAC Water under the bridge, as you say this forum is for discussion & all opinions are valid.The Andy C thing was his personal opinion . He used to work on the same firm as Steve ( probably still does ) Visbeens Holland. And he also knows drivers from Visbeen that had a crack with H+R that loathed it there & returned to the UK/NL. Hope this helps.
harry:
DAVIE_MAC Water under the bridge, as you say this forum is for discussion & all opinions are valid.The Andy C thing was his personal opinion . He used to work on the same firm as Steve ( probably still does ) Visbeens Holland. And he also knows drivers from Visbeen that had a crack with H+R that loathed it there & returned to the UK/NL. Hope this helps.
Yeh I understand now ref Andy.
Many Thanks For the reply…is that water under that London Bridge.
Cheers D