3300John:
Hiya…guy bigJ the first walk through cab…No No what about the 1965 ford tilt cab. then years before that the sentinal
with the horizontal engine. they had a bench seat and flat floor in the mid 50’s
John
Big J’s came out in 1964, Merc LPs in '63, so the Germans beat the Brummies:
The Germans beat the Brummies !! and how long has Wolverhampton been in Birmingham 
Now you’ve done it 
The Austin/Morris tilt cab FJ range was announced at the Earls Court Commercial Motor Show in the autumn of 1964.
This might have been around the same time as the Ford D Series.
Theres another contender for the British prize` .
Cheers , cattle wagon man.
Trev_H:
The Germans beat the Brummies !! and how long has Wolverhampton been in Birmingham
Hahaha! 
I thought that might elicit some Black Country indignation.
According to this:
archive.commercialmotor.com/arti … kfurt-show
…the Faun L10 Eurotrans (surely the best-ever name for a lorry) had a flat floor, so the Germans were 2-up on the Yam-Yams (is that better?) by the time the Big J was launched. 275bhp and a cab like this, surely it must have been the most desirable lorry in 1963?
That truck was driven by a mate of mine ,Silvio ,who worked for a subbie for Hangartner. He had a girlfriend in Swiss Cottage ( of all places!) & he used to park it in the street. Some basterd drilled everyone of his tyres. Big prob for Silvio. He changed to M/E work, which he hated & ended up driving telegraph poles for Swiss post. Nice guy.
That snap was taken in London… the Highway? the white stuff on the bodywork was picked near Rheims on the national road in the sugarbeet season.
harry:
That truck was driven by a mate of mine ,Silvio ,who worked for a subbie for Hangartner. He had a girlfriend in Swiss Cottage ( of all places!) & he used to park it in the street. Some basterd drilled everyone of his tyres. Big prob for Silvio. He changed to M/E work, which he hated & ended up driving telegraph poles for Swiss post. Nice guy.
That snap was taken in London… the Highway? the white stuff on the bodywork was picked near Rheims on the national road in the sugarbeet season.
Blimey! Small world on this interweb thing, isn’t it? The vehicle looks fabulous, to me at any rate. Do you remember anything he might have said about it?
I wonder why the Eurotrans did not become more popular? According to the CM article, the cab was fixed. To get at the engine, you had to remove the side panels. I suppose head-off or engine-out jobs necessitated removing the cab, unless the engine could be slid forward along the frame. I can’t see a big problem with this- it was probably just as easy to take off a side panel as it was to unbolt the engine cover in a “normal” fixed cab. The interior would not get covered in fitters’ oily fingerprints, and roadside repairs could be done in the dry, under the cab. Are there any of these in preservation? I hope so.
He hated it it was always breaking down & it was Sivlio’s job to get it going. He also had a high performance Italian racing car & that also was breaking down. If anyone knows Jean from the Gate Cafe ,she had a pash on Silvio.LOL! Silvio used to spread the love.
hey to all, The Faun had a Deutz V10 air cooled engine first with 235 then a 250hp. When the Deutz V10 engine became 270,310hp the Faun was already disappeared. At the and of the '60’s the race was hard,so lots of marques disappeared.
And Faun concentrated on heavy transport trucks.
We had 2 in the mid '50’s with the V8 175hp Deutz,which were a night mare.
Head cracks were common on Deutz engines at that time.
Especially on long distance transport,steep hills hot engine then downwards fast coold and that was the cause.
To match temperature fluctuation wasa common problem.
So were the Deutz engined lorries never beloved, but in off road,mixers,earthworks and shot distance tipper work.
Only the bonneted mid fifties sold a bit.
Cheers Eric,
harry:
He hated it it was always breaking down & it was Sivlio’s job to get it going. He also had a high performance Italian racing car & that also was breaking down. If anyone knows Jean from the Gate Cafe ,she had a pash on Silvio.LOL! Silvio used to spread the love.
■■■■! I was hoping you were going to say that he loved it, and that it was great. Still, it looks good…
tiptop495:
hey to all, The Faun had a Deutz V10 air cooled engine first with 235 then a 250hp. When the Deutz V10 engine became 270,310hp the Faun was already disappeared. At the and of the '60’s the race was hard,so lots of marques disappeared.
And Faun concentrated on heavy transport trucks.
We had 2 in the mid '50’s with the V8 175hp Deutz,which were a night mare.
Head cracks were common on Deutz engines at that time.
Especially on long distance transport,steep hills hot engine then downwards fast coold and that was the cause.
To match temperature fluctuation wasa common problem.
So were the Deutz engined lorries never beloved, but in off road,mixers,earthworks and shot distance tipper work.
Only the bonneted mid fifties sold a bit.Cheers Eric,
The CM article says that the Eurotrans had a six cylinder water-cooled Deutz engine. Maybe this was to overcome the problems you mention, regarding temperature fluctuations. It didn’t seem to do any good, if Harry’s friend’s experience was typical.
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anorak:harry:
He hated it it was always breaking down & it was Sivlio’s job to get it going. He also had a high performance Italian racing car & that also was breaking down. If anyone knows Jean from the Gate Cafe ,she had a pash on Silvio.LOL! Silvio used to spread the love.■■■■! I was hoping you were going to say that he loved it, and that it was great. Still, it looks good…
tiptop495:
hey to all, The Faun had a Deutz V10 air cooled engine first with 235 then a 250hp. When the Deutz V10 engine became 270,310hp the Faun was already disappeared. At the and of the '60’s the race was hard,so lots of marques disappeared.
And Faun concentrated on heavy transport trucks.
We had 2 in the mid '50’s with the V8 175hp Deutz,which were a night mare.
Head cracks were common on Deutz engines at that time.
Especially on long distance transport,steep hills hot engine then downwards fast coold and that was the cause.
To match temperature fluctuation wasa common problem.
So were the Deutz engined lorries never beloved, but in off road,mixers,earthworks and shot distance tipper work.
Only the bonneted mid fifties sold a bit.Cheers Eric,
The CM article says that the Eurotrans had a six cylinder water-cooled Deutz engine. Maybe this was to overcome the problems you mention, regarding temperature fluctuations. It didn’t seem to do any good, if Harry’s friend’s experience was typical.
Hey Anorak, I read the article and you have right they wrote it.
Deutz built only watercooled 6 in lines after war till begin the '50’s it was still a pre war design,Faun has used it at that time too and all other who used deutz engines. It was sometimes built in a WWII surplus,one who has forgotten by the Germans 
And liked to let out a rod through the engine block which was sometimes already sewed many times before.
Cheers Eric,
tiptop495:
Hey Anorak, I read the article and you have right they wrote it.
Deutz built only watercooled 6 in lines after war till begin the '50’s it was still a pre war design,Faun has used it at that time too and all other who used deutz engines. It was sometimes built in a WWII surplus,one who has forgotten by the GermansCheers Eric,
Hi Tiptop. Your knowledge of these post-war European vehicles is invaluable. I wonder if Harry’s friend’s Faun had the rod-through-the-block problem?
Deutz seemed to have a few engineering problems in the 1950s. However, the air-cooled V8s, 10s and 12s were well-liked by the 1970s, as far as I can make out. When did they start to get it right?
Rod thru the block? It was hammer thru the block when Silvio had finished with it. The Faun & Silvios Italian car died at about the same time. The car went first,caught fire on a Swiss M’way. Then Silvio’s boss stopped trading with the Faun. Silvio then got a new F89 W+D with Wulrich,Lysse & did Spain (liked)& Iran which he loathed. Got a job doing internals with a 4 wheel half cab pole carrier for Swiss Post.
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anorak:tiptop495:
Hey Anorak, I read the article and you have right they wrote it.
Deutz built only watercooled 6 in lines after war till begin the '50’s it was still a pre war design,Faun has used it at that time too and all other who used deutz engines. It was sometimes built in a WWII surplus,one who has forgotten by the GermansCheers Eric,
Hi Tiptop. Your knowledge of these post-war European vehicles is invaluable. I wonder if Harry’s friend’s Faun had the rod-through-the-block problem?
Deutz seemed to have a few engineering problems in the 1950s. However, the air-cooled V8s, 10s and 12s were well-liked by the 1970s, as far as I can make out. When did they start to get it right?
Hey, The rod problem was only on the watercooled one’s.
In the '60’s they became better and better and with direct injection they were even better.
Some swore by them no wet liners,waterpump or radiator and so no antifreeze.
But begin de '70’s they had lost the interest by long distant hauliers,but by then they were good pullers but liked fuel.
And we were by then in the Scania,Volvo and DAF era.
They were even offered by IVECO and lots stayed loyal to Deutz engined IVECO’s
Cheers Eric,
If I am not mistaken weren’t Heron the dealers for Guy in the Dumfries and Carlisle area?
A Peter Davies picture, not sure about this look
adr:
A Peter Davies picture, not sure about this look
Hey, it was a Belgian model the cabovers got mostly a coachbuilders cab too.
I’m not entirely sure but think they were assembled here in Malines too,because of import taxes and automotive regulations,as breaking systems and weight limits.
We had some busses here too.
Cheers Eric,
moomooland:
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That’s a cr*p piece of sheeting if ever I saw one! The driver should be reported to his boss. Who probably knows no better, anyway 
The Big J featured a hub reduction rear axle in many of its guises, but whose one? Some pictures seem to show the Maudslay, and some the Leyland. However, Guy had made their own gearboxes in earlier years so did they in fact make their own hub reduction axle, or were they manufacturing the Maudslay design and then selling it on through the BL group? AEC certainly used a hub reduction axle in some Mercury tractor units which I don’t think was their own.
