Trev_H:
Of the old stock that Richardsons got we had 16 of them on T reg’s,180’s with the awful 6 speed and air assisted steering they were probably 2-3 yrs old before they were put on the road and an earlier spec to the R’ reg ones (180,fuller box and power steering) from Guy’s. Within 18 months they showed bad signs of rust more so than the R reg’s which had Ziebart? rust treatment from new.
You’ve just rattled my brain cell Trev,as I had a bloke come to the workshop and treat all our Guys and Seddons with the internal spray,not just sure what it was called but it wasn’t Ziebart as they were twice the price IIRC,However,I never kept these motors long enough to find out if they started to rot on the rear cab quarters,but they certainly hadn’t by the time I disposed of them ! Cheers Dennis.
It could have been Waxoil-protectol used to drill holes fill the cavity then plug the hole with a plastic cap.
Trev_H:
Of the old stock that Richardsons got we had 16 of them on T reg’s,180’s with the awful 6 speed and air assisted steering they were probably 2-3 yrs old before they were put on the road and an earlier spec to the R’ reg ones (180,fuller box and power steering) from Guy’s. Within 18 months they showed bad signs of rust more so than the R reg’s which had Ziebart? rust treatment from new.
You’ve just rattled my brain cell Trev,as I had a bloke come to the workshop and treat all our Guys and Seddons with the internal spray,not just sure what it was called but it wasn’t Ziebart as they were twice the price IIRC,However,I never kept these motors long enough to find out if they started to rot on the rear cab quarters,but they certainly hadn’t by the time I disposed of them ! Cheers Dennis.
It could have been Waxoil-protectol used to drill holes fill the cavity then plug the hole with a plastic cap.
The best stuff, I have been told by a classic car restorer who has used it, is the oil they use to protect castings which are stored outside, prior to machining. It comes in two or three viscosity grades, and has a property which makes it “creep” across a surface, so improving the coverage with time. He showed me a panel covered in the stuff, and swore that the oil had got there by itself. Can I remember the name of it? Can I heck- my memories are as rusty as the vehicles I prattle on about on this forum!
Trev_H:
Of the old stock that Richardsons got we had 16 of them on T reg’s,180’s with the awful 6 speed and air assisted steering they were probably 2-3 yrs old before they were put on the road and an earlier spec to the R’ reg ones (180,fuller box and power steering) from Guy’s. Within 18 months they showed bad signs of rust more so than the R reg’s which had Ziebart? rust treatment from new.
You’ve just rattled my brain cell Trev,as I had a bloke come to the workshop and treat all our Guys and Seddons with the internal spray,not just sure what it was called but it wasn’t Ziebart as they were twice the price IIRC,However,I never kept these motors long enough to find out if they started to rot on the rear cab quarters,but they certainly hadn’t by the time I disposed of them ! Cheers Dennis.
It could have been Waxoil-protectol used to drill holes fill the cavity then plug the hole with a plastic cap.
The best stuff, I have been told by a classic car restorer who has used it, is the oil they use to protect castings which are stored outside, prior to machining. It comes in two or three viscosity grades, and has a property which makes it “creep” across a surface, so improving the coverage with time. He showed me a panel covered in the stuff, and swore that the oil had got there by itself. Can I remember the name of it? Can I heck- my memories are as rusty as the vehicles I prattle on about on this forum!
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anorak:
The best stuff, I have been told by a classic car restorer who has used it, is the oil they use to protect castings which are stored outside, prior to machining. It comes in two or three viscosity grades, and has a property which makes it “creep” across a surface, so improving the coverage with time. He showed me a panel covered in the stuff, and swore that the oil had got there by itself. Can I remember the name of it? Can I heck- my memories are as rusty as the vehicles I prattle on about on this forum!
Dinitrol ?.
Hmm… Don’t think so, although that might be another maker’s equivalent. The stuff my mate was using was supplied by Castrol or BP, IIRC.
Edit- just looked at the Dinitrol website, and it seems to do all the things my mate’s stuff did. They even recommend putting the thinner product on before the thicker stuff, so that it creeps into the spaces the thicker stuff does not reach. It seems like a great product.
Trev_H:
Of the old stock that Richardsons got we had 16 of them on T reg’s,180’s with the awful 6 speed and air assisted steering they were probably 2-3 yrs old before they were put on the road and an earlier spec to the R’ reg ones (180,fuller box and power steering) from Guy’s. Within 18 months they showed bad signs of rust more so than the R reg’s which had Ziebart? rust treatment from new.
You’ve just rattled my brain cell Trev,as I had a bloke come to the workshop and treat all our Guys and Seddons with the internal spray,not just sure what it was called but it wasn’t Ziebart as they were twice the price IIRC,However,I never kept these motors long enough to find out if they started to rot on the rear cab quarters,but they certainly hadn’t by the time I disposed of them ! Cheers Dennis.
It could have been Waxoil-protectol used to drill holes fill the cavity then plug the hole with a plastic cap.
Yea Bri your right,he did drill holes in the back corner panels then stick the lance in and spray the cavity,then he put a rubber grommet in the holes.Cheers Dennis.
Dan Punchard:
Tnuk member Richard stanier has a double drive big j 335 ■■■■■■■ in restoration ,perhaps he can shed some light on the 240 saga from his collection of brochure s ?
Hi Dan
It’s the 44 ton prototype - fitted with 14 litre ■■■■■■■ - around 250 HP iirc (not the usual 250 ■■■■■■■■
Dan Punchard:
Tnuk member Richard stanier has a double drive big j 335 ■■■■■■■ in restoration ,perhaps he can shed some light on the 240 saga from his collection of brochure s ?
Hi Dan
It’s the 44 ton prototype - fitted with 14 litre ■■■■■■■ - around 250 HP iirc (not the usual 250 ■■■■■■■■
Before restoration:
A couple of hours with T-Cut will soon have it looking like new
cattle wagon man:
November 1969 , and to be exhibited at the Scottish Motor Show , Kelvin Hall, Glasgow.
Cheers , cattle wagon man.
I think this Big J was built later than 1969 going by the mesh grille that it has.Cheers Dennis.
Hi Dennis ,
The photograph of the above Guy 44 ton unit was taken from Commercial Motor , dated November 7 th. 1969.
As it were to be a Show vehicle , it would be (dressed-up ) for 1970 production.
Dan Punchard:
Tnuk member Richard stanier has a double drive big j 335 ■■■■■■■ in restoration ,perhaps he can shed some light on the 240 saga from his collection of brochure s ?
Hi Dan
It’s the 44 ton prototype - fitted with 14 litre ■■■■■■■ - around 250 HP iirc (not the usual 250 ■■■■■■■■
Before restoration:
A couple of hours with T-Cut will soon have it looking like new
A couple of hours with T-Cut will…have it looking better than new.
cattle wagon man:
November 1969 , and to be exhibited at the Scottish Motor Show , Kelvin Hall, Glasgow.
Cheers , cattle wagon man.
I think this Big J was built later than 1969 going by the mesh grille that it has.Cheers Dennis.
Hi Dennis ,
The photograph of the above Guy 44 ton unit was taken from Commercial Motor , dated November 7 th. 1969.
As it were to be a Show vehicle , it would be (dressed-up ) for 1970 production.
Cheers , cattle wagon man.
Why I questioned the date of the photo CWM was because we had this Guy on our fleet and it was a 1972 “K” reg with the older slotted grille ! Our later 73/74/76 and 77 Big J’s all had the mesh grille the same as the DD six wheeler.Cheers Dennis.
Hi,Dennis,aint that guy got a staffordshire reg no.? Anyway back to 8 pot big j’s,talked to a lad today who been in transport all his life and he is adament that there was never a guy big j with a 8 pot gardener,he suggested if anybody knows a man called Robin Hannay[writes articles in vintage mags about guy motors] he will give you you the answer,ta,Pete
pete smith:
Hi,Dennis,aint that guy got a staffordshire reg no.? Anyway back to 8 pot big j’s,talked to a lad today who been in transport all his life and he is adament that there was never a guy big j with a 8 pot gardener,he suggested if anybody knows a man called Robin Hannay[writes articles in vintage mags about guy motors] he will give you you the answer,ta,Pete
Aye it was a Staffs reg but I can’t recall any history but I can remember it was on a regular job when we ran it.it ran up to Glasgow and back three times a week from Storey Bros.factory on Whits Lund,Morecambe to RDB Freightlines in Rutherglen.We would reload it in Glasgow regularly and it would bring the trailer into the depot for another unit to run south.Cheers Dennis.
fill the cavity then plug the hole with a plastic cap. 
