Yes,I agree,the ■■■■■■■ sat quite low in the chassis compared to the 240 Percy,there was a quite an engine cover,height wise in the cab,at least to your elbows,and the Gardners,180 and 240 made full use of the height,unlike to squat ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ I think RR Eagle was also squat.
Take it easy,
David 
LB76:
0Wonder what powered this one ?
That was the very first model with the V6 ■■■■■■■ and labour intensive tilt cab ! The floor in the cab was completely flat, when the V6 got dropped these cabs (modified slightly) were used on 28t models using a Perkins V8.
Every other engine option (20+ 
) got the armrest level huge bonnet, the biggest engine being the 14ltr 290/335 (American built pre big cam) ■■■■■■■ which used up all of that bonnet space, the turbo living behind the engine out the back of the cab !
crowbar:
Lawrence Dunbar:
8 LXS Didnt exist in those days, perhaps the 8 LW did, but as you say the wouldnt fit into the old motors we are refering to , The old Guys I remember with the Indians Head on was in the 40/50s Era, most likley to have a Gardner LW Or LK engine 4/5/Cylinder version, mind you they were good on fuel, & they were the days when money could be made in the haulage game, Now its a bloody nightmare, money ? its all spent on fuel & running costs with a very low return on ones investmants, Im out of it now enjoying retirement, Happy Days Eh, Regards Larry.Hi Larry The Indian’s Head was used up until 1968 when Guy was taken into Jaguar ,that where you got the Big J name Regards crowbar
Ralph, the only Warrior I ever drove belonged to your uncle John. It was an experience to say the least! But I must say it was the perfect “trunk motor”. It was impossible for the driver to fall asleep when driving the noise from that air filter whistling all night long (behind the passenger seat in the cab) was the perfect way to keep you awake!
regards Kev.
kevmac47:
crowbar:
Lawrence Dunbar:
8 LXS Didnt exist in those days, perhaps the 8 LW did, but as you say the wouldnt fit into the old motors we are refering to , The old Guys I remember with the Indians Head on was in the 40/50s Era, most likley to have a Gardner LW Or LK engine 4/5/Cylinder version, mind you they were good on fuel, & they were the days when money could be made in the haulage game, Now its a bloody nightmare, money ? its all spent on fuel & running costs with a very low return on ones investmants, Im out of it now enjoying retirement, Happy Days Eh, Regards Larry.Hi Larry The Indian’s Head was used up until 1968 when Guy was taken into Jaguar ,that where you got the Big J name Regards crowbar
Ralph, the only Warrior I ever drove belonged to your uncle John. It was an experience to say the least! But I must say it was the perfect “trunk motor”. It was impossible for the driver to fall asleep when driving
regards Kev.
KEV You must have had the pleasure 
driving UNL45 because the newer ones had the air filter out of the cab except for CCN207C a 42MPH Invincible,later transfered to Glasgow depot Regards Ralph
revman:
time to put this on again
This is a Seddon 32/4 with Gardner 8LXB 200 bhp engine,I believe. Cheers Dennis.
MR B, I allways thought it was a bit slugish iff down rated ,i put it down to 6 speed box the REG no was ,MXS 10 L OR MSX 10 L ,cant rem ,we had 2 ERF 240 with fuller s 1 Sed /atki fuller ,and 5 ,Fodens ,with 240 /9 and 12 speed boxes ,they went much beter ,yours Barry
When i lived in London i drove a big J with a AEC engine that was old for Harry Bowden out of Peckham later to become BFI
did they ever make a big j with the 8lxb
bradfordlad9999:
did they ever make a big j with the 8lxb
Is the Pope a Catholic?
jastrebsi59:
When i lived in London i drove a big J with a AEC engine that was old for Harry Bowden out of Peckham later to become BFI
Hi jastrebsi59,
We delivered into there with groupage for onward delivery to london docks
in the seventies ,was the office a house in the front of yard ?.They also
ran seddon artics as well,also had a depot south of blackwall tunnel.
Cheers Malc.
Hi malc step
I remember Howarth bros delivering fire fighting equipment plus other companies delivering but can not remember the names it was not a bad firm to work for old Harry was a fair man his sons a different story
jastrebsi59:
Hi malc step
I remember Howarth bros delivering fire fighting equipment plus other companies delivering but can not remember the names it was not a bad firm to work for old Harry was a fair man his sons a different story
Hi jastrebsi 59,
Yes we used to be there a few times a week
Cheers Malc.
jastrebsi59:
Hi malc step
I remember Howarth bros delivering fire fighting equipment plus other companies delivering but can not remember the names it was not a bad firm to work for old Harry was a fair man his sons a different story
Hello all, I remember enjoying the company of Harry Bowden, a Gentleman, of the old school of hauliers. Peter, and Dennis,… well they built up a substantial business, it rose, shone,… and I believe is no more. Ran lots of Fiat 684s, on the Plasterboard job, and did they not have some Fiat Dealerships back in the 70s?? Rushden, Blackwall??
jastrebi, is that not a little town in Serbia■■? Whats the story■■? Cheerio for now.
Hi malk step
Thanks for the photos i could not remember the name of the fire equipment people brings back memories
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anorak:
. . . and more power for Guy tractive units | 2nd November 1973 | The Commercial Motor Archive
Blimey it’s the Dunkerque scenario for all of us who supported Bewick.I bet he’ll be the first one to say that he always knew it existed and he’s got the last place on the last boat the rest of us will have to either swim home or stay where we are. 
BUT- did anyone actually purchase and operate one,and were any actually manufactured? : Sorry! 
Sir +:
BUT- did anyone actually purchase and operate one,and were any actually manufactured? : Sorry!
I wouldn’t give up my place in the boat on the basis that given the choice between the ■■■■■■■ or the Gardner that the British operators at the time would have chosen the ■■■■■■■ option instead of the Gardner.
Carryfast:
Sir +:
BUT- did anyone actually purchase and operate one,and were any actually manufactured? : Sorry!I wouldn’t give up my place in the boat on the basis that given the choice between the ■■■■■■■ or the Gardner that the British operators at the time would have chosen the ■■■■■■■ option instead of the Gardner.
In the 70’s we had loads of big j’s on general haulage, the majority were ■■■■■■■ followed by Rolls, the main reason being the Gardner 180’s could only operate at 30.5 t as opposed to 32t for the others. Of course if the mythical 8lxb was available and you could pay at least £2k more and wait forever they would operate at 32t. We got every engine imaginable in a big j (20 odd options at one time) but we never clapped eyes on the mythical beast. The brochure says they were available !
Trev_H:
Carryfast:
Sir +:
BUT- did anyone actually purchase and operate one,and were any actually manufactured? : Sorry!I wouldn’t give up my place in the boat on the basis that given the choice between the ■■■■■■■ or the Gardner that the British operators at the time would have chosen the ■■■■■■■ option instead of the Gardner.
In the 70’s we had loads of big j’s on general haulage, the majority were ■■■■■■■ followed by Rolls, the main reason being the Gardner 180’s could only operate at 30.5 t as opposed to 32t for the others. Of course if the mythical 8lxb was available and you could pay at least £2k more and wait forever they would operate at 32t. We got every engine imaginable in a big j (20 odd options at one time) but we never clapped eyes on the mythical beast. The brochure says they were available !
hiya,
Trev it only mentions the option of the 8 pot not the availability, I like your good self have seen/driven the Js but never ever seen one and surely by now there is someone somewhere who has worked on the line at Guy Motors can put this thread to bed once and for all.
thanks harry, long retired.
