This link is posted in another thread, I have copied it here as many might miss it due to it being buried on page 3 of the topic…
petitions.pm.gov.uk/UKtruckdrivers/
the thread that explains why it is needed is here
trucknetuk.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=25888
posted that in transaction Rikki
kind of, its now in my signature 
scanny77:
posted that in transaction Rikki
kind of, its now in my signature
wurzel99uk:
smiler:
signed( come on everybody) there is only 18 so far45 signed as of mid afternoon Sunday,2400 + hits on this posting…
Maybe check these out too :
search.petitions.pm.gov.uk/kbrok … ck+drivers
Some interesting ideas there…c’mon Guys…Democracy in action
wurzel99uk:
scanny77:
posted that in transaction Rikki
kind of, its now in my signaturewurzel99uk:
smiler:
signed( come on everybody) there is only 18 so far45 signed as of mid afternoon Sunday,2400 + hits on this posting…
Maybe check these out too :
search.petitions.pm.gov.uk/kbrok … ck+drivers
Some interesting ideas there…c’mon Guys…Democracy in action
2800 + hits… only 69 signatures…
But there again,Thats my favorite number 
wurzel99uk:
2800 + hits… only 69 signatures…
So why have so few people signed 
Come on guys, it only takes a couple of mins + a confirmatory click when they send you an e-mail.
It really could be any one of us sitting in that jail, so why not add your name??
Rikki-UK Would it be an idea to make this into a sticky for a while?? (Please 
)
dieseldave:
wurzel99uk:
2800 + hits… only 69 signatures…So why have so few people signed
Come on guys, it only takes a couple of mins + a confirmatory click when they send you an e-mail.
It really could be any one of us sitting in that jail, so why not add your name??Rikki-UK Would it be an idea to make this into a sticky for a while?? (Please
131 signed as of 11am Sunday… 
mrs F signed now
Denis F:
mrs F signed now
Good Man Dennis,appreciated
177 sig’s as of 21.30 Sunday 9th Dec…Bloody near the target of 200 minimum 
I’d love to get a couple thousand though…really make the Authorities sit up and take notice
Rikki-UK:
This link is posted in another thread, I have copied it here as many might miss it due to it being buried on page 3 of the topic…petitions.pm.gov.uk/UKtruckdrivers/
the thread that explains why it is needed is here
trucknetuk.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=25888
3400+ hits on this topic,207 signatures…well done everyone 
wurzel99uk:
3400+ hits on this topic,207 signatures…well done everyone
Hooray
I thought this website WASNT a campaigning website?.
jammymutt2:
I thought this website WASNT a campaigning website?.
Speaking entirely for myself, I can’t see a campaign, can you
If you follow the links provided, you’ll see that one of them is from a person asking for information, and the other is from a person who has raised a petition to ask some questions.
BTW, how would you define “campaigning”
jammymutt2:
I thought this website WASNT a campaigning website?.
You beat me to it Alex.
Off topic comments removed - Rikki
Rule Sixteen - Campaigns and Campaigning Organisations
TruckNet UK is not, nor do we ever intend to be a campaigning organisation. We prefer to remain purely a forum for people to debate and discuss. There are, however, some very good campaigns underway on behalf of drivers, and we sometimes choose to support these.
bolded the important bits for those who missed it when they read the rules and guidelines
Rikki-UK:
Rule Sixteen - Campaigns and Campaigning OrganisationsTruckNet UK is not, nor do we ever intend to be a campaigning organisation. We prefer to remain purely a forum for people to debate and discuss. There are, however, some very good campaigns underway on behalf of drivers, and we sometimes choose to support these.
bolded the important bits for those who missed it when they read the rules and guidelines
My apologies but its very hard to keep up with the rules changes you seem to make here on a weekly basis, EG proxy servers and many more, and having been here from pretty close to the start it gets a bit ■■■■■■■ complicated when they change so much.
DD you ask them to support something in this country and they dont seem to be interested but support and advertise something about EU driving they WILL support it and put info on it.
And like it says and we sometimes choose to support these can the future of our industry and its support REALLY be picked and chosen by one guy and his ,woman??.
jammymutt:
DD you ask them to support something in this country and they dont seem to be interested but support and advertise something about EU driving they WILL support it and put info on it.
That might be perfectly true jammymutt, I wouldn’t argue that point, but I only picked up on the word “campaign.”
As I said, in this particular case, IMHO I don’t see any sign of a campaign.
What I did see was a person who has organised a petition to ask some questions and another asking for information. If you follow the links, and read the info, do you honestly call these things a “campaign”■■
If what has happened up to now meets any reasonable definition of the word “campaign,” then I’ll stand corrected and say so publicly.
As I asked earlier, do you honestly think that this, as it stands, is a “campaign”■■
I did Euro tramping for 10 years, and a fair number of my journeys involved France, so there but for the grace of God go I. It was always at the back of my mind that I could be accused of something that had nothing to do with me. I’d happily agree that this country has a justice system that might be lacking in certain areas, but have you any idea of the way that the French system works??
It goes something like this:
TBH jammymutt, and for all its faults, I was always glad to be back on UK soil. Have you done Europe, do you agree??
I don’t know whether you’ve followed the links and read the info, but please spend a few minutes to do so, then you’ll at least have an informed opinion as to whether this consitutes a “campaign.” We might even agree on that point-- who knows??
Does it concern you that one of our own is banged-up and might just be innocent??
(As we in the UK understand the word “innocent.”)
So far, I have signed a petition that now meets the criteria to get some questions asked in the right quarters. If I thought that this forum was a campaigning forum, I wouldn’t have joined in the first place.
jammymutt:
And like it says and we sometimes choose to support these can the future of our industry and its support REALLY be picked and chosen by one guy and his ,woman??.
I’m not sure that your question is entirely fair, since this forum is only one of several. The owners have rules, and they’ve appointed Rikki as the manager. Even with the power that he has, I doubt that Rikki has “the future of our industry” in his hands. As you know, he’s supported by Admins and Mods of which “his,woman” is one. There’s clearly published rules, which are subject to change due to circumstances. If there ever came a time, after reasonable discussion, that I fundamentally disagreed with them, then I’d leave.
Speaking only for myself, I wouldn’t hang around sniping, if I didn’t like something.
The how, when and if a “campaign” gets support from this forum isn’t in my hands, I accept that, so my own preference is to let the management team carry on with their duties. Other people are entitled to their own take on this, so they’ll do as they see fit. All they need to realise is that there are rules. Everybody has exactly that choice IMHO. In short, it amounts to “stay” or “go,” it’s not rocket science IMHO.
Can I look forward to meeting you at the “do.”
Un-Stickying this to avoid clutter at the top here now you have your target…But feel free to keep “bumping” if you wish! 
Lucy:
Un-Stickying this to avoid clutter at the top here now you have your target…But feel free to keep “bumping” if you wish!
Thank you…
Yeah,234 as of tonite…plugging away slowly…
So,um…Un-Stickying…is that an oop north thing? …or…
So,um…Un-Stickying…is that an oop north thing?
didn’t you know us northerners have all the best things
Just added my name to it aswell, better late than never.
i made it to Signatures: 235 now wurzel
