Evening Gentlemen, fascinating thread this…pre historic V current…
Now to give my credentials, before I am assailed with such venom…drove, roped, chained, sheeted, back in the 60s…70s…80s… and now do it daily on the farm.
What an archaic, stupid, user unfriendly method of load securing surely this is the tops…yes a good job looks great…and the personal satisfaction…well if you are soaking wet, k…d, and just plain bushed… at least that is something!
But a shunter, sheeting inside, …well you could enjoy your work, and its result! Pity the poor sod at journeys end undoing the lot in the rain and wind…Even worse having to re sheet a valuable load in the best that mother nature can throw at us, remember how the wind could get under a sheet, and you were on top of it!!!
When Gerald Broadbent invented the concept of the tensioned curtainsider he gave all of the global industry the way forward…people had tried curtains before. He was the one person who took the concept to its ultimate conclusion, a secure envelope for the load, he was correct…and the industry benefited.
I was good, (or so I think), you are good…that is undeniable from your photographs…but as a concept…its back in the Dark Ages…and that is a fact!
Just for “Saviem”,yours truly shaking hands with the “Great man” himself on the occaision of delivery of the first new Tautliner onto our contract fleet at The East Lancs Paper Mill at Radcliffe.This was IIRC 1990 and long after Gerald had left Boalloy,but he had family connections with Radcliffe and the Mill so I invited him to the “event” and give the Mill management their due,they made him most welcome and treat him like the VIP he was,gave him a guided tour of the Mill and a slap up lunch,he was absolutely delighted !! Cheers Dennis.
Smart as a ■■■■ Dennis, How long to it take you to get back into the owld boiler suit Eh, Mind you If I may say so you looked the part deservedly, Regards Larry.
Lawrence Dunbar:
Smart as a ■■■■ Dennis, How long to it take you to get back into the owld boiler suit Eh, Mind you If I may say so you looked the part deservedly, Regards Larry.
Thanks for the compliment Larry The two on the left were both great blokes to work for,straight as dies,and the one second from the left,with the wide parting,well, Bewick Transport couldn’t do any wrong as far as he was concerned.That particular Mill was making 100,000 TPY,which was 100K in and the same out,£2 million annual T/o for us for a number of years.It’s all flattened now with a housing estate on the site.Cheers Dennis.
Gerald was treated poorly by the subsequent owners of Bo Alloy, what a bunch of tyre kicking no hopers they were!!!1
I am grateful that you gave him recognition, for truly he was one of the greatest innovators in our industry.
You have cheered this old reprobate no end,…I shall raise my Bollinger towards the metropolis of More-Cambe tonight…
Cheerio for now.
Dug another out,both facing the camera this time,they really “loved” these shots at Congleton at the time as it was the Bo-Alloy photographer that took them
Lovely nostalgic photo. I had many a load out of ELPM when Bolton BRS depot had the traffic and subbed to local hauliers. They paid £10 a ton for white reels to London circa 1972 IIRC, which was good money in those days with 22 tons on my Scammell Handyman. Also a brown reels mill and plenty of loads of “flats” paper. ELPM was a well-regarded firm in the area, it had an excellent canteen which drivers were permitted to use and the mill had its own cricket team and ground. It was one of several paper mills in the Bury/Radcliffe/Little Lever/Bolton area, all of which are now either derelict or a housing estates, retail parks and other non-productive montrosities. Where did it all go wrong■■?
Saviem:
Evening Gentlemen, fascinating thread this…pre historic V current…
Now to give my credentials, before I am assailed with such venom…drove, roped, chained, sheeted, back in the 60s…70s…80s… and now do it daily on the farm.
What an archaic, stupid, user unfriendly method of load securing surely this is the tops…yes a good job looks great…and the personal satisfaction…well if you are soaking wet, k…d, and just plain bushed… at least that is something!
But a shunter, sheeting inside, …well you could enjoy your work, and its result! Pity the poor sod at journeys end undoing the lot in the rain and wind…Even worse having to re sheet a valuable load in the best that mother nature can throw at us, remember how the wind could get under a sheet, and you were on top of it!!!
When Gerald Broadbent invented the concept of the tensioned curtainsider he gave all of the global industry the way forward…people had tried curtains before. He was the one person who took the concept to its ultimate conclusion, a secure envelope for the load, he was correct…and the industry benefited.
I was good, (or so I think), you are good…that is undeniable from your photographs…but as a concept…its back in the Dark Ages…and that is a fact!
Im away to my Bollinger
Adieu mes Braves…
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Ne’er a truer word said M. Saviem. But, as I’ve said elsewhere, I am perverse. I appreciate and enjoy the sight of a well-sheeted (tarped, as they say here) load, perhaps only because I am keenly aware of how much effort (not to say skill) goes into the finished product. While I completely agree that the tautliner was a great leap forward, the fact is anyone with half a brain cell focussed on the job can make a decent fist of things with a tautliner, whereas a tidily-sheeted load on a flatbed (articulated or rigid, makes no difference) is a work of an artisan if not a work of art. But (again as said elswhere), tautliners are rapidly replacing flatbeds on distribution and multi-drop work hereabouts, and in wet weather there is no doubt they make for much easier and faster work. But I am perverse, so much so that despite being offered the use of two of the big tautliners where I now work I refused, preferring to stick with the big flatbed. I am aware I am probably certifiable.
Telekonsteve:
My father worked for these, excellent fleet of ERFs
Used to see a whole fleet of Plant’s 4-wheelers parked along the kerb in Bermondsey overnight.
They were a great fleet ROF,they would be swarming down to the S.east on a Sunday when I had my D1000,they ran a lot of those tapered chassis ERF 4 wheelers with the 5 pot Gardner “100” engine he must have had a lot of decent rated traffic,they seemed to carry all kinds,a typical general haulage firm of the era.I don’t know exactly what happened by I believe Gordon just got sick of drivers antics and just packed up with the general haulage,I went to his sale and bought a really strong tow bar and a weighted block that was fitted with a 5th wheel pin and sat on a tractor unit.Cheers Dennis.
forgive me if I am wrong but isn’t this thread supposed to be about bad attempts at roping and sheeting ?
now no one more than me appreciates the dark arts of roping and sheeting but there are other threads on said subject just sayin likes
gonzothejaffa1:
forgive me if I am wrong but isn’t this thread supposed to be about bad attempts at roping and sheeting ?
now no one more than me appreciates the dark arts of roping and sheeting but there are other threads on said subject just sayin likes
Well come on “Gonzo” get some of your “efforts” posted to keep the site buzzing ! Bewick.
gonzothejaffa1:
forgive me if I am wrong but isn’t this thread supposed to be about bad attempts at roping and sheeting ?
now no one more than me appreciates the dark arts of roping and sheeting but there are other threads on said subject just sayin likes
Well come on “Gonzo” get some of your “efforts” posted to keep the site buzzing ! Bewick.
there’s a thread knocking about somewhere with my efforts on it and when I can get the piccys off my phone I will add to it plus the odd one or two that belong on this thread
Now then Dan’al me lad,shouldnt a load like that be safer in a bulk tipper or skips,it looks decidedly dodgy to me so why put it in big bags and onto a platform?Then again,bearing in mind to-days “expertise” some bright spark may load it into a curtainsider,unstrapped of corse.Nothing suprises me anymore.Gan canny,cheers Dennis.
It’s just the way they do it Dennis,its unloaded by Hymac with a grab so not many curtains do it ,also there’s a large que by the time a curtain has tipped.
Now then Dan’al me lad,shouldnt a load like that be safer in a bulk tipper or skips,it looks decidedly dodgy to me so why put it in big bags and onto a platform?Then again,bearing in mind to-days “expertise” some bright spark may load it into a curtainsider,unstrapped of corse.Nothing suprises me anymore.Gan canny,cheers Dennis.
It’s just the way they do it Dennis,its unloaded by Hymac with a grab so not many curtains do it ,also there’s a large que by the time a curtain has tipped.
gonzothejaffa1:
forgive me if I am wrong but isn’t this thread supposed to be about bad attempts at roping and sheeting ?
now no one more than me appreciates the dark arts of roping and sheeting but there are other threads on said subject just sayin likes
Well come on “Gonzo” get some of your “efforts” posted to keep the site buzzing ! Bewick.
there’s a thread knocking about somewhere with my efforts on it and when I can get the piccys off my phone I will add to it plus the odd one or two that belong on this thread
WELL DON’T FORGET TO CREDIT THE OLD BLOKE WHO TAUGHT YOU!!!
Not the best shape of load to sheet & rope, Regards Larry.
and when I can get the piccys off my phone I will add to it plus the odd one or two that belong on this thread