When I started driving for a living (1983) a few of the older guy’s still used Dolly Knots to fasten their sheets, most of us used old innertubes! 
One chap even used to splice his ropes together when they needed replacing instead of tying them, I asked him why he did that and his reply was “Because I can” which told me good and proper! 
Pete.
These two trailers were loaded for Kirriemuir in Scotland from the local mill at Beetham,it was a regular job and we had one motor did nothing else but this job and at times we needed two on the traffic,they would reload at Montrose or Dundee back to the mill.
Bewick:
These two trailers were loaded for Kirriemuir in Scotland from the local mill at Beetham,it was a regular job and we had one motor did nothing else but this job and at times we needed two on the traffic,they would reload at Montrose or Dundee back to the mill.
Now it might be me or the way my dad bought me up, but that is what you hoped to be able to achieve, there’s nowt looks better than that to me, different days different ways alas, as he used to say, just like sealing an envelope, 
Telekonsteve:
Bewick:
These two trailers were loaded for Kirriemuir in Scotland from the local mill at Beetham,it was a regular job and we had one motor did nothing else but this job and at times we needed two on the traffic,they would reload at Montrose or Dundee back to the mill.Now it might be me or the way my dad bought me up, but that is what you hoped to be able to achieve, there’s nowt looks better than that to me, different days different ways alas, as he used to say, just like sealing an envelope,
Quality jobs those aren’t they . Were they both done by the same driver, they’re almost a photo-copy of each other 
. Regards Chris
Either the same driver or two drivers who had both read Bewick’s “How to wrap a butty” manual 
adr:
Telekonsteve:
Bewick:
These two trailers were loaded for Kirriemuir in Scotland from the local mill at Beetham,it was a regular job and we had one motor did nothing else but this job and at times we needed two on the traffic,they would reload at Montrose or Dundee back to the mill.Now it might be me or the way my dad bought me up, but that is what you hoped to be able to achieve, there’s nowt looks better than that to me, different days different ways alas, as he used to say, just like sealing an envelope,
Quality jobs those aren’t they
Hiya Chris,they would have been sheeted and roped by one of the permanent Shunters we had working in the Mill over the years,I couldn’t say for certain which one,as they were all great lads at their craft,so if I named one it would be unfair 'cause he may not have done them.Cheers Bewick.
Bewick:
adr:
Telekonsteve:
Bewick:
These two trailers were loaded for Kirriemuir in Scotland from the local mill at Beetham,it was a regular job and we had one motor did nothing else but this job and at times we needed two on the traffic,they would reload at Montrose or Dundee back to the mill.Now it might be me or the way my dad bought me up, but that is what you hoped to be able to achieve, there’s nowt looks better than that to me, different days different ways alas, as he used to say, just like sealing an envelope,
Quality jobs those aren’t they
Hiya Chris,they would have been sheeted and roped by one of the permanent Shunters we had working in the Mill over the years,I couldn’t say for certain which one,as they were all great lads at their craft,so if I named one it would be unfair 'cause he may not have done them.Cheers Bewick.
Hi Bewick, I know if you do something all the time law-of-average says you are going to get pretty good at it, but to see trailers done like that is a great sight . I used to load Oil out of Shell at Barton Dock, Manchester (Shell Stanlow too) when I was on Cannons, & take it back to our bottom yard at Milton, Oxon, where it was broke down & put on our 4-wheelers for distribution to Garages etc. There was a shunter at Barton Dock for Helsby & Longdon (Green & Cream wagons), his name IIRC was Tony, really nice bloke, showed me a few hitches etc that I didn’t know at the time! He used to load the trailers & sheet them & again IIRC the driver that took the load had to rope it, but to watch him sheet it was great, he was so fast but the sheets were tight as a drum, I don’t think it would have fell off if you hadn’t roped it, great to see, being then in my early 20s with my F10 then a F7 I used to like to just watch the old boys do it . Regards Chris
Well Dennis whoever did them were certainly good at it to say the least, Just perfic IMO, Eh Shall we drink to that , Of course we will, Heres to bottoms up on the SMS, Regards Larry. PS I do hope owld Harry is taking notice.
Hiya Larry and Chris,I think I’ve said before that good shunters were worth their weight in gold,not many drivers could hack it as a shunter,OK the odd day or two but no way day after day ! All our shunters over the years were great lads and weren’t interested in going back on the road driving,we always tried to have “square pegs in square holes” i.e. Long distance,day men,night men and shunters,it was no good trying to get a day man to go on distance for instance,by applying our methods we were able to keep hold of a relatively happy workforce,well OK there was always one or two who had bad patches and moaned a bit,but it wasn’t our fault,it was 9 times out of 10 Wife or Bird trouble or sometimes financial which I often sorted out with a few quid extra to get them over the problem,I always got paid back though Cheers Dennis.
I nearly had a good picture for you today Dennis ,good strapping and netting ,18 bulk bags on the trailer ,however the 2nd collection load of 27 bags on the lorry were so poorly filled they looked sorry so I didn’t bother with the camera.
Dan Punchard:
I nearly had a good picture for you today Dennis ,good strapping and netting ,18 bulk bags on the trailer ,however the 2nd collection load of 27 bags on the lorry were so poorly filled they looked sorry so I didn’t bother with the camera.
Coward ! Cheers Dennis.
Plenty good enough Dan, I guess they stopped on OK?
Pete.
windrush:
Plenty good enough Dan, I guess they stopped on OK?Pete.
No doubt about that Eh Safe as houses, That what us old drivers do, Put everything right Eh, Regards Larry.
The bags are filled on building sites by people who don’t give a ■■■■ some are filled nice and square ,some are full some half full,some fall over on there own ,the teleshift can’t put them where you want them ,as a driver you have to hook the loops on to the forks on the heap risking my fingers ,building sites swimming in ■■■■ and at the other end at the tip certainly not worth sheeting !
There no time for the pride of Dennis and commer,I’ve tipped 25 tonne of concrete pipes at Penarth ,loaded bags at Swansea and Neath ,tipped Nottingham and got back to the yard in 15 hrs,I left Ross this morning by the way not the yard ,takes some doing pete as I got the wrong trailer on 19 metres in all ,I need a field to turn it round!
Dan Punchard:
There no time for the pride of Dennis and commer,I’ve tipped 25 tonne of concrete pipes at Penarth ,loaded bags at Swansea and Neath ,tipped Nottingham and got back to the yard in 15 hrs,I left Ross this morning by the way not the yard ,takes some doing pete as I got the wrong trailer on 19 metres in all ,I need a field to turn it round!
Yes Dan, you can get a few miles down the road if you are not faffing about getting your knots all in line! Keep those wheels turning lad, you know it makes sense. Nice looking rig by the way.
Pete.
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Now then Dan’al me lad,shouldnt a load like that be safer in a bulk tipper or skips,it looks decidedly dodgy to me so why put it in big bags and onto a platform?Then again,bearing in mind to-days “expertise” some bright spark may load it into a curtainsider,unstrapped of corse.Nothing suprises me anymore.Gan canny,cheers Dennis.
Bewick:
Dan Punchard:
0Now then Dan’al me lad,shouldnt a load like that be safer in a bulk tipper or skips,it looks decidedly dodgy to me so why put it in big bags and onto a platform?Then again,bearing in mind to-days “expertise” some bright spark may load it into a curtainsider,unstrapped of corse.Nothing suprises me anymore.Gan canny,cheers Dennis.
Probably in bulk bags Dennis because a lot of sites will not allow loose material tipped due to being washed into watercourses etc, we used to take stone and sand/gravel to bagging plants for that reason. You are definatley banned from tipping loose material on the roadside in large towns and cities. It also increases the material cost of course!
Pete.
