Well usual pish in edinburgh 3 buses in a row cannae get past them stop start stop start stop start. Anyway on the back of the buses is a new sticker that says not exact quote but something like this:
New highway code rule number …
give way to buses
Whats the deal give way to buses at bus stops or give way to buses everywhere?
■■■■■■■ hate buses how they make money is beyond me they are all empty 80% of the day 
merc0447:
Well usual pish in edinburgh 3 buses in a row cannae get past them stop start stop start stop start. Anyway on the back of the buses is a new sticker that says not exact quote but something like this:New highway code rule number …
give way to busesWhats the deal give way to buses at bus stops or give way to buses everywhere?
[zb] hate buses how they make money is beyond me they are all empty 80% of the day
As far as i know, you only give way to let them pull out of a bus stop. I hate Edinburgh bus drivers too. 
I never have a problem with Glasgow bus drivers at all. They must be subsidized in some way by the government though cos i have never understood how they make money either.
Edinburgh use buses for mobile traffic management. Edinburgh bus drivers are known to be gay! They are always leaving their arse end out ready to be shafted. 
I am here: maps.google.com/maps?ll=55.927877,-3.270553
It’s not theirs anymore,
This is our England now.
Paaaaarrrrrrttttttttyyyyyyyy
this is not a new rule, it has been there for years
it states that you give way to buses wanting to pull away from the bus stop
shuttlespanker:
this is not a new rule, it has been there for yearsit states that you give way to buses wanting to pull away from the bus stop
Even when they’re still indicating left, not indicating at all or when a little old lady still hasn’t sat down
what about if your a cyclist…
the taxi is on it way…
Muckaway:
shuttlespanker:
this is not a new rule, it has been there for yearsit states that you give way to buses wanting to pull away from the bus stop
Even when they’re still indicating left, not indicating at all or when a little old lady still hasn’t sat down
Or worse, when they indicate right, you flash them out and they don’t move leaving you sat there like a ■■■■■ The reason being, passengers are still getting on the bus. Why do they do that? Very annoying.
There`s the story about the bus driver who pulled-out to avoid a child , -
Cheers , cattle wagon man.
Used to be rule 79? (I think), then it was 198, no idea if that’s still the number.
The ruling was something like, ‘you must give way to busses where safe to do so’
edit to add just found it
198: Buses, coaches and trams. Give priority to these vehicles when you can do so safely, especially when they signal to pull away from stops. Look out for people getting off a bus or tram and crossing the road.
waynedl:
Used to be rule 79? (I think), then it was 198, no idea if that’s still the number.The ruling was something like, ‘you must give way to busses where safe to do so’
edit to add just found it
198: Buses, coaches and trams. Give priority to these vehicles when you can do so safely, especially when they signal to pull away from stops. Look out for people getting off a bus or tram and crossing the road.
So, its not just for pulling away from stops, but generally you should give way to them.
Yeah right, like that ever happens. Which is why bus drivers have to be a little more forthright when pulling away from stops. When i was driving them, i would generally allow 3 cars to ignore my indicator when i was trying to pull out…the 4th one was generally confronted with the bus gradually pulling out into traffic, if you were the 5th one…well, you either stopped or had an accident, your choice.
Nothing worse than trying to keep to a timetable while ignorant motorists play “must get in front of the bus”. Which is why public transport will never be a proper viable alternative anywhere outside of London, too many ignorant motorists who cannot stand the thought of being stuck behind a bus. Until that attitude changes or proper bus priority networks are set up, things will never change.
Thankfully, on coaches, things are a bit more relaxed.
DonutUK:
waynedl:
Used to be rule 79? (I think), then it was 198, no idea if that’s still the number.The ruling was something like, ‘you must give way to busses where safe to do so’
edit to add just found it
198: Buses, coaches and trams. Give priority to these vehicles when you can do so safely, especially when they signal to pull away from stops. Look out for people getting off a bus or tram and crossing the road.
So, its not just for pulling away from stops, but generally you should give way to them.
Yeah right, like that ever happens. Which is why bus drivers have to be a little more forthright when pulling away from stops. When i was driving them, i would generally allow 3 cars to ignore my indicator when i was trying to pull out…the 4th one was generally confronted with the bus gradually pulling out into traffic, if you were the 5th one…well, you either stopped or had an accident, your choice.
Nothing worse than trying to keep to a timetable while ignorant motorists play “must get in front of the bus”. Which is why public transport will never be a proper viable alternative anywhere outside of London, too many ignorant motorists who cannot stand the thought of being stuck behind a bus. Until that attitude changes or proper bus priority networks are set up, things will never change.
Thankfully, on coaches, things are a bit more relaxed.
I used to use the 3 flash rule, indicator on whilst shutting doors, check nearside mirror for anyone running for bus (so I could see their face as I ■■■■■■ off), check offside mirror for emergency services / (motor)cyclists etc, blindspot check and then full throttle, only ever had 1 issue doing that and that was a copper who decided he’d pull me for it, after an argument and me pointing out he should be aware of his surroundings and the rules of the road, he radio’d through and got told to get his arse back to the station for a chat.
If there was a reason not to go, I’d wait, but that was rare.
HATED driving busses with a passion, used to do a late shift, so I’d have 1 round trip in rush hour, then nice quiet roads, rather deal with drunken yobs on the bus than ■■■■■■■ in cars on the road.
Don’t mind as much now, probably because the schedule isn’t there 
In that situation just think of yourself as Glasgow Rankers and the buses as HMRC, they’re gonna [zb] you up whatever you try to do.
Thankyou.
Same as donutuk. When I was on buses, you’d find that you couldn’t get into a stop for ■■■■■■■ morons parking cars there. Then when you want to get out, no ■■■■ wants to let you out… therefore, ■■■■ 'em, make 'em stop for you. As for buses sitting in a stop with right indicator on, we had one at my depot that used to do that, and more than once I’d pulled up and waited for him
You could be in a stop with a line of stationary traffic beside you, and when you were ready to pull out, they’d still try and block you when the line started moving, so once again, ■■■■ 'em.
I could go on, but I feel better now. I think I might even miss the pills today.
shuttlespanker:
this is not a new rule, it has been there for yearsit states that you give way to buses wanting to pull away from the bus stop
Highway Code “Rule” 223
Buses, coaches and trams. Give priority to these vehicles when you can do so safely, especially when they signal to pull away from stops. Look out for people getting off a bus or tram and crossing the road.
It doesn’t mention must or even should - it is not a rule; merely advice. I don’t understand why buses should get priority anyway; they get their own lanes in many towns. I appreciate that they think they are more important than the rest of us but then I think I am more important
shuttlespanker:
this is not a new rule, it has been there for yearsit states that you give way to buses wanting to pull away from the bus stop
exactly my thinking, and if the bus driver uses an indicator, he even gets a little wave 
cattle wagon man:
There`s the story about the bus driver who pulled-out to avoid a child , -
- And fell out of bed !!!
Cheers , cattle wagon man.
Ah - thinking about the children!
gardun:
shuttlespanker:
this is not a new rule, it has been there for yearsit states that you give way to buses wanting to pull away from the bus stop
Highway Code “Rule” 223
Buses, coaches and trams. Give priority to these vehicles when you can do so safely, especially when they signal to pull away from stops. Look out for people getting off a bus or tram and crossing the road.It doesn’t mention must or even should - it is not a rule; merely advice. I don’t understand why buses should get priority anyway; they get their own lanes in many towns. I appreciate that they think they are more important than the rest of us but then I think I am more important
However, that “advice” is considered when you are prosecuted for dangerous driving, careless driving etc. The Highway Code is considered to be “best practice” if you like, and if you are not in accordance with it and something happens, do not be too surprised if a court finds against you. They may well consider that your failure to drive in line with the Code falls below a standard which is reasonably expected.
DonutUK:
gardun:
shuttlespanker:
this is not a new rule, it has been there for yearsit states that you give way to buses wanting to pull away from the bus stop
Highway Code “Rule” 223
Buses, coaches and trams. Give priority to these vehicles when you can do so safely, especially when they signal to pull away from stops. Look out for people getting off a bus or tram and crossing the road.It doesn’t mention must or even should - it is not a rule; merely advice. I don’t understand why buses should get priority anyway; they get their own lanes in many towns. I appreciate that they think they are more important than the rest of us but then I think I am more important
However, that “advice” is considered when you are prosecuted for dangerous driving, careless driving etc. The Highway Code is considered to be “best practice” if you like, and if you are not in accordance with it and something happens, do not be too surprised if a court finds against you. They may well consider that your failure to drive in line with the Code falls below a standard which is reasonably expected.
If failing to observe the “Code” could be classed as dangerous or careless I agree, although I would also refer to Roadcraft if applicable. However, letting a bus pull out of a bus-stop (or not) is not, in my opinion, a matter of safety (dangerous) or even “without due care and attention”. Therefore, I would be very surprised to receive a NIP for not letting a bus out. That said, I would give way if it was safe to do so.
gardun:
DonutUK:
gardun:
shuttlespanker:
this is not a new rule, it has been there for yearsit states that you give way to buses wanting to pull away from the bus stop
Highway Code “Rule” 223
Buses, coaches and trams. Give priority to these vehicles when you can do so safely, especially when they signal to pull away from stops. Look out for people getting off a bus or tram and crossing the road.It doesn’t mention must or even should - it is not a rule; merely advice. I don’t understand why buses should get priority anyway; they get their own lanes in many towns. I appreciate that they think they are more important than the rest of us but then I think I am more important
However, that “advice” is considered when you are prosecuted for dangerous driving, careless driving etc. The Highway Code is considered to be “best practice” if you like, and if you are not in accordance with it and something happens, do not be too surprised if a court finds against you. They may well consider that your failure to drive in line with the Code falls below a standard which is reasonably expected.
If failing to observe the “Code” could be classed as dangerous or careless I agree, although I would also refer to Roadcraft if applicable. However, letting a bus pull out of a bus-stop (or not) is not, in my opinion, a matter of safety (dangerous) or even “without due care and attention”. Therefore, I would be very surprised to receive a NIP for not letting a bus out. That said, I would give way if it was safe to do so.
However, if by swerving round the bus at the last minute because you were too impatient too wait, you caused the bus to brake sharply, injuring a passenger…you may well be on the receiving end of a NIP for one of those offences. Especially with the advent of CCTV on buses.
As a point of interest, an elderly lady died last year after suffering head injuries from a fall on the bus, caused by an impatient van driver who decided he absolutely had to get out of a junction ahead of a bus…sadly, they have never traced the van driver, but safe to say if they had, they would have faced charges.
The Highway Code Rule does not just apply to bus stops, it is a general rule…give way to buses.
Hope this helps!
It doesn’t when I’m coming around the roundabout and he’s “giving way”…unless that sign’s on the side of the bus aswell.