You’re wasting your time Harry,.I had 30 + pages of this type of crap on another thread.
They thrive on what they see as scepticism,.they love it because it gives them an opportunity to do what they see as ‘spreading the word’.
They have standard answers to every potential question that a normal person will ask…,.it is all part of the Waco style brainwashing programme .
I’d knock it on the head if I was you,.as I did, you will achieve nothing, he/they are on planet Zog. 
Sploom:
So,I managed to get in the top 5% for fuel economy.I dont get anything ,not even a ‘well done’,but at least the satisfaction that I made a small effort to stop more carbon going into the atmosphere.It wont save the worl,I get that,but we’re in the [zb].The ice caps are melting.They reflect the sun,so when they melt,the sun heats the water more,causing more ice to melt.Maybe you dont believe all this,or you just dont care.If youre earning 50k and you wont pay an extra £50 to offest the flight pollution,or youre driving a big car that you dont really need and taking holidays in those big,awful cruise ships belching out black oily smoke,you just dont give a [zb].But here we are,we all ignore the elephant in the room,until we are up to our necks in water…
The temperature in Antarctica today is -51 C with a windchill of -72 at the Spring equinox how bleedin cold do you want it.
How can ice melt at that temperature.
Earth’s CO2 level is less than 0.05% of the atmosphere which is the bare minimum to sustain plant life and with it our food and oxygen supply.
If you want to believe Sagan’s bs greenhouse effect that’s your choice.Dont drag us all down with your brainwashed garbage.
Is planet Zog going through a warming or cooling cycle, asking for a friend, obviously?
He doesnt know where planet Zog is!
He still seems unsettled on this subject because hasnt had “closure”!
Sploom:
toonsy:
It’s OK. When the water is up to our necks we can all ■■■■ off into an ark two by two or follow some other religious fantasy story to help us throughFor what its worth I drive gas trucks so my emissions are far lower than yours and I drive an electric car, have solar panels on the roof of my house and have a heat pump fitted now so God loves me more than you even though I think he’s a whopper.
Please continue lecturing others who are doing more than you
So,the guy that believes in a religous fantasy book that says the earth was flooded,he should be ridiculed for it but the guy that causes the next flood by scientifically proven methods,nothing should be said to that guy.If this is your mindset,it’s up to you but I dont look at it that way
The cracks, in your psychological crutch, err… I mean faith, are beginning to show.
You have no faith in the all powerful, mythical being, who has the ability to create the whole world and everything within, to be able to compensate for life’s byproducts?
Stardownunder.
How much faith do you have in humans to save the planet? After all,arent the scientists telling us it’s not too late but WE need to stop burning fossil fuels.But we dont.It would be too disruptive and uncomfortable to do that so we keep burning them,burning coal even though we know it will make the world uninhabitable for the next generation or the one after that but he hoh,that’s just the price that needs to be paid.So lets blame God for all this ,shall we…
Sploom:
Stardownunder.
How much faith do you have in humans to save the planet? After all,arent the scientists telling us it’s not too late but WE need to stop burning fossil fuels.But we dont.It would be too disruptive and uncomfortable to do that so we keep burning them,burning coal even though we know it will make the world uninhabitable for the next generation or the one after that but he hoh,that’s just the price that needs to be paid.So lets blame God for all this ,shall we…
Firstly, I have more faith in humans that the Easter bunny, Father Christmas or a god of any denomination.
However, you are trying to deflect the question, with another question.
I’ll simplify the question. Why does your God not change the science so our modern way of life does not pollute the earth?
A design fault, that needs rectification.
The only thing that comes to mind is Genesis 1.28 where God told Adam to rule over and subdue the earth.God has gave us stewardship of the earth.Once we have destroyed the earth,it will be our fault,we can’t blame God.He allows us to do bad things and doesnt stop evil in it’s tracks.God has gave us the ability to know that the earth is in trouble and ,if we have the will ,we can protect the earth but we choose not to try ,or at least ,not to try hard enough
Sploom:
He doesnt know where planet Zog is!
He still seems unsettled on this subject because hasnt had “closure”!
Planet Zog is where you and your self righteous narrow minded mates live…with Winseer as your next door neighbour.
And now you’re a pound shop ■■■■■■ analyst eh?,.as well.as a total gullible deluded fantasist.
How well you know me…not! 
Don’t give ip the day job…(or is it nights?)
Anyhoo seeing as Sploom has turned yet another thread around to feed his obsession, mebbys we should get back on track.
Way I see it is this…
On one hand, I do not doubt that modern living is having a detrimental effect to the environment and the planet.
On the other hand, me being the eternal cynic I am, and one who always looks for a hidden agenda in anything any form of authority tells me (and 99.9% of the time you can sure as hell bet it is there) I do think that the official line is grossly exaggerated, and that the phenomena of global warming and air pollution is being very conveniently milked to death as a vehicle for revenue.
Saying that, (and speaking purely from a non Carryfast stylee, and a pure layman ) ,.I strongly believe that nature has a way of dealing with any adversity that is chucked at it, the world has it’s own NATURAL word used in its purest context btw, ie pertaining to nature 
) defence mechanisms, and the planet is durable.
It is all part of the process of evolution from day one, ie being adaptive and reactive.
Now how severe or deadly towards us that reaction may be,.depends on how many (sensible) protective steps we take.
From our industry’s point of view, engines are the cleanest running they have ever been, in terms of emissions.
I remember when the motorway and town centres had that awful carbon monoxide smell from the likes of dirty old Gardener engines.
In comparison today the environment in those terms is like comparing grasslands with a bowling green in terms of improvement.
I think electric vehicles will bring up a whole new set of problems.
Star down under.:
Sploom:
Stardownunder.
How much faith do you have in humans to save the planet? After all,arent the scientists telling us it’s not too late but WE need to stop burning fossil fuels.But we dont.It would be too disruptive and uncomfortable to do that so we keep burning them,burning coal even though we know it will make the world uninhabitable for the next generation or the one after that but he hoh,that’s just the price that needs to be paid.So lets blame God for all this ,shall we…Firstly, I have more faith in humans that the Easter bunny, Father Christmas or a god of any denomination.
However, you are trying to deflect the question, with another question.
I’ll simplify the question. Why does your God not change the science so our modern way of life does not pollute the earth?
A design fault, that needs rectification.
I dont know why He doesnt but,up to now,you and,indeed everyone I discused this with on this forum always ask,Why doesnt God…etc,etc…
How about a wuestion,Why do humans…
Sploom:
Star down under.:
Sploom:
Stardownunder.
How much faith do you have in humans to save the planet? After all,arent the scientists telling us it’s not too late but WE need to stop burning fossil fuels.But we dont.It would be too disruptive and uncomfortable to do that so we keep burning them,burning coal even though we know it will make the world uninhabitable for the next generation or the one after that but he hoh,that’s just the price that needs to be paid.So lets blame God for all this ,shall we…Firstly, I have more faith in humans that the Easter bunny, Father Christmas or a god of any denomination.
However, you are trying to deflect the question, with another question.
I’ll simplify the question. Why does your God not change the science so our modern way of life does not pollute the earth?
A design fault, that needs rectification.I dont know why He doesnt but,up to now,you and,indeed everyone I discused this with on this forum always ask,Why doesnt God…etc,etc…
How about a wuestion,Why do humans…
Simple answers to both questions.
Why do humans not improve things?
A number of varying reasons, greed for one, mainly vested interests prioritising over environmental issues…ie human nature in it’s true but negative form.
Why does ‘God’ not improve things?
Because ‘he’ does not exist but is a figment of gullible and naive people’s furtive imagination.
You’re welcome. 
How’s that for ‘‘closure’’ ■■
Robroy.
I think nature will react but Im not so optimistic.If the sea level has risen even a small amount ,what knock on effect will that have ,all that extra weight distribution.Will it cause more earthquakes?
We are affecting the status quo that has kept everything in a steady state
Sploom:
Robroy.I think nature will react but Im not so optimistic.If the sea level has risen even a small amount ,what knock on effect will that have ,all that extra weight distribution.Will it cause more earthquakes?
We are affecting the status quo that has kept everything in a steady state
I dont know mate,.I drive a truck I ain’t a scientist.
It is like everything else, in the real world there is the far end of f/all that plebs like you and me can do about it…end of.
So just get on with your own personal life and problems, and as for stuff like this going on in the background, just go with it and strap yourself in,.whilst the governments and the higher echelons of authority continue to make a complete cluster ■■■■ of everything they do.
In the meantime I’ll just continue looking out for myself, my family, my friends, my job,.and my finances, whilst continuing to check out how Newcastle Utd are doing, enjoying life with friends,.going for a few beers, and basically not giving a flying ■■■■ about stuff that I will NEVER have any modicum of control over, and continue as ever to be laid back and not taking stuff too seriously…you should try it btw
As for Status Quo. 
…always thought they were an over rated band, but I did like some of their early stuff…especially this one.
Harry Monk:
Sploom:
Science hasnt proved evolution,the beginning of life nor the big bang.But science has comprehensively debunked Creationism, so where do you stand on that?
But science can’t explain the code contained in DNA.
It also doesn’t even know whether it’s a finite universe or an infinite universe or whether it’s expanding or static or even if the so called big bang ever happened or didn’t happen.Or what was there before it or not.
Right now all the sums based on the so called red shift and so called expanding universe ain’t adding up.
Just like the idea that ice is melting at -50C, Mont Blanc is no longer White at its peak and a CO2 level of 0.04% of the atmosphere or even double that is supposedly a problem.
Science indeed.
As for Sploom he’s obviously ok with the science not nature and creation when it suits his Global Warming narrative.
While any true believer would understand that God gave us fossil fuel to burn while Satan invented nukes and prefers to burn living trees to power his EV than long dead ones to power a decent ICE.
Sploom:
Star down under.:
Sploom:
Stardownunder.
How much faith do you have in humans to save the planet? After all,arent the scientists telling us it’s not too late but WE need to stop burning fossil fuels.But we dont.It would be too disruptive and uncomfortable to do that so we keep burning them,burning coal even though we know it will make the world uninhabitable for the next generation or the one after that but he hoh,that’s just the price that needs to be paid.So lets blame God for all this ,shall we…Firstly, I have more faith in humans that the Easter bunny, Father Christmas or a god of any denomination.
However, you are trying to deflect the question, with another question.
I’ll simplify the question. Why does your God not change the science so our modern way of life does not pollute the earth?
A design fault, that needs rectification.I dont know why He doesnt but,up to now,you and,indeed everyone I discused this with on this forum always ask,Why doesnt God…etc,etc…
How about a wuestion,Why do humans…
Because we know humans exist. God himself refuses to prove his existence, hmmm, there’s a logical explanation for that.
How about this for a suggestion, just post truck related stuff here, save your religious guff for a god botherers’ forum.
Sploom:
The science will tell you it is 4.5 billion yrars old but it is only 6000 years old
So how do you explain the fact that Göbekli Tepe, the oldest known man-made structure in the World, is 11,500 years old?
On the subject of fuel economy I just try to drive as smoothly and sensibly as possible. The fuel economy is what it is, and I don’t lose any sleep over it.
On the subject of emissions etc, I firmly believe that whatever efforts we make as drivers is more than cancelled out by idiot planners sending us miles out of our way, loads being rejected for the arsiest (is that a word?) of reasons and some careless herbert on his phone piling into the back of the vehicle in front, with the subsequent holdups we all know and love.
The religion/creationism thing? I’ll leave that to the usual chattering monkeys.
WhiteTruckMan:
On the subject of fuel economy I just try to drive as smoothly and sensibly as possible. The fuel economy is what it is, and I don’t lose any sleep over it.The religion/creationism thing? I’ll leave that to the usual chattering monkeys.
Yep same here, I just drive as normal, …and as for actively and purposely trying to save them money?..
My usual mantra is ‘‘■■■■ em’’…Thing is though I still manage to get good fuel figures.
As for the religion/creationism thing…
Cheers for that
Religion uh uh uh…
God ah ah ah uh uh
Load of bull crap uh uh ah ah aaAhhhAHHHA
And while your worrying about that,China,India,and plenty more countries increasing their carbon emissions more each year than our TOTAL output,coal mine fires been burning in India for over a hundred years,millions of tyres burning in the desert,the richest 1% use private planes for twenty minute journeys,think you’d best sleep under the covers with the light on,don’t have nightmares…but the biggest problem,continued invasion of the UK’s south coast by young,single men , illegal immigrants