Anybody had any experience of using these?? We have just trialed for 2x month a product called Envirox. The claims made by the manufacturers - based on credable evidence provided by Stagecoach bus company, stated that we could achieve up to 8% saving in fuel. This in reality hasn’t happened, however the two trucks have seen a decrease in the amount of Ad blue used.
Just wondered whether anyone had ever used one or known of any good results from any.
Cheers in advance.
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Sorry should of been titled “Fuel Additives”…
My own lorry does not burn fuel indeed at the end of the day I drain the tank and sell the derv to passers bye this is because over many years
I have taken full advantage of all the fuel saving products that have been available to such a level the vehicle manufactures derv during the course
of the working day, how it does this is truly a miracle.
Armagedon:
My own lorry does not burn fuel indeed at the end of the day I drain the tank and sell the derv to passers bye this is because over many years
I have taken full advantage of all the fuel saving products that have been available to such a level the vehicle manufactures derv during the course
of the working day, how it does this is truly a miracle.
Sorry, Not sure I understand?
His point is that, if all these claims were true, then if you used 11 fuel saving products, each designed to cut fuel consumption by 10 per cent, you could end up with more fuel than you started off with…depending on which way you crunch the numbers.
Going back a few decades, there were those pyramids you put in the fuel tank to ‘channel energy’, the magnets you fitted to the fuel line to align the molecules of diesel for optimum combustion etc etc. It sounds like nonsense now, but people were using them at the time and reporting that they worked (although the probability is that they did not).
Envirox seems to work for Stagecoach, but city buses are different to trucks …engines not running under full loads for long, repeated periods of idling etc.
What does seem to work for trucks are modern full-synthetic oils designed to reduce fuel consumption (but not all these are suitable for all trucks), correct tyre pressures and correct axle alignments. The last two increase tyre life, too.
Gas Gas have a response regarding fixed penalties in ports will forward soon as I have downloaded it.
Thanks for explaining the previous post. We have the tyre situation monitored and the chassis alignment should be up to speed. The need for efficiency was not driven by profit or loss as such, but to improve engine performance leading to increased fuel economy.
GasGas:
His point is that, if all these claims were true, then if you used 11 fuel saving products, each designed to cut fuel consumption by 10 per cent, you could end up with more fuel than you started off with…depending on which way you crunch the numbers.
Not exactly, 100% - 10% = 90% - 10% = 81% etc…
But I agree with what you’re saying, so many magic products on the market, to take advantage of people who are struggling with rising fuel costs, obvious answer is to buy something else for more money…
I wouldn’t bother if it was any cop BP would be adding it at source.
lightning:
Thanks for explaining the previous post. We have the tyre situation monitored and the chassis alignment should be up to speed. The need for efficiency was not driven by profit or loss as such, but to improve engine performance leading to increased fuel economy.
Its mostly down to the driver. When I was on a TNT contract many moons ago two of us used to do a night trunk from Hull to London. We both drove the same type of wagon, the same trailer, the same load and set off at the same time. He went like a bat out of hell, up to the limiter in every gear, charging up to traffic lights etc then braking hard. I drove how I’d been taught in an economical driving course - keep it in the green, use engine braking, try and time hitting lights and junctions so you didn’t need to stop etc. He of course got to the other end first but I’d arrive just as he was rolling through the gate. Same on the way back. He’d get back first but still be on the pumps when I arrived a couple of minutes later.
He typically used 250 litres a night, I used 200. My journey time over 220 miles was just a couple of minutes more than him but I used 20% less fuel.
Virtually any truck I’ve driven right up to 44 tonnes where I’m running back empty I achieve 10MPG or more - my record running tankers from Holme on Spalding Moor to the now closed Cadbury’s at Keynsham including running the PTO for 90 minutes to pump out the condensed milk was 12MPG in a 460BHP Scania. When I’m loaded with a fair amount of weight on in both directions I like to get at least 9MPG.
If your company truly wants to save fuel it should put all the drivers on an economical driving course and run a bonus scheme based on average MPG for the week. It would pay back far better than continuing to put snake oil in the tank.
The need for efficiency was not driven by profit or loss as such, but to improve engine performance leading to increased fuel economy.
Really it was. Increased fuel efficiency means lower costs means more profit. Fuel is a hauliers biggest bill.
Conor:
lightning:
Thanks for explaining the previous post. We have the tyre situation monitored and the chassis alignment should be up to speed. The need for efficiency was not driven by profit or loss as such, but to improve engine performance leading to increased fuel economy.Its mostly down to the driver. When I was on a TNT contract many moons ago two of us used to do a night trunk from Hull to London. We both drove the same type of wagon, the same trailer, the same load and set off at the same time. He went like a bat out of hell, up to the limiter in every gear, charging up to traffic lights etc then braking hard. I drove how I’d been taught in an economical driving course - keep it in the green, use engine braking, try and time hitting lights and junctions so you didn’t need to stop etc. He of course got to the other end first but I’d arrive just as he was rolling through the gate. Same on the way back. He’d get back first but still be on the pumps when I arrived a couple of minutes later.
He typically used 250 litres a night, I used 200. My journey time over 220 miles was just a couple of minutes more than him but I used 20% less fuel.
If your company truly wants to save fuel it should put all the drivers on an economical driving course and run a bonus scheme based on average MPG for the week. It would pay back far better than continuing to put snake oil in the tank.
In reference to your post, since late January, I have been trained up in Driver Training and fuel efficiency. We are in the process of going through all of the drivers, educating them in fuel efficiency. Our fuel figures are not bad, although we do have some errant drivers. We do a bonus scheme based on the fuel usage - some have embraced - others not. We are not perfect but we are at least trying to better our image.
On the subject of additives, WE were approached to trial the product that we have been using hitherto. I was just attempting to gauge as to whether it was something others had tried, and if any , there were any positives.