My bugbear of the day is front fogs.
At this time of year, most of us drive in the dark at some point and most of the time you can see normal headlights, so front fogs are not necessary… or am I missing something?
Option 3…
In fog?
It’s very important that the front fogs are working.You never know when when you might have a blown headlight and need them to get back to the yard!
Front fogs are to see by not to be seen by.
yourhavingalarf:
Option 3…In fog?
This. Use them when necessary.
Sploom:
It’s very important that the front fogs are working.You never know when when you might have a blown headlight and need them to get back to the yard!
I tried that once. Got a detour into the vosa yard to have the error or my ways corrected.
njl:
Sploom:
It’s very important that the front fogs are working.You never know when when you might have a blown headlight and need them to get back to the yard!I tried that once. Got a detour into the vosa yard to have the error or my ways corrected.
So what happened? I’d expect if it was working when you did your checks, but fails while you are out, you can carry on your shift?
Obviously you would get a tug if seen.
stu675:
njl:
Sploom:
It’s very important that the front fogs are working.You never know when when you might have a blown headlight and need them to get back to the yard!I tried that once. Got a detour into the vosa yard to have the error or my ways corrected.
So what happened? I’d expect if it was working when you did your checks, but fails while you are out, you can carry on your shift?
Obviously you would get a tug if seen.
PG9 for the defective dip beam, wait for a service van to come and change the bulb. Delayed
PG9 for damage to n/s step someone had inflicted to the truck some time previously.
The tang don’t need foglights they call them spot lights, and they can’t have enough
I was more getting (indirectly) at the fact that they cause more unnecessary light to dazzle oncoming drivers, and for no apparent reason.
I do take the point about using fog lights to see in a slow moving situation, but I am not convinced they have any impact on a trunk road in clear or non-clear conditions. If there is no benefit in lighting up the road where you are looking, then the only benefit would be to make yourself more visible (my opinion obviously).
yourhavingalarf:
Option 3…In fog?
See option 1!
theres now so many dazzlers on the road itd likely be impossible to rein them all in. Goodness knows how many? accidents and deaths are caused by a dazzler .One way it could be stopped is by paying out a good reward to anyone reporting what turned out to be a proper dazzler . The dazzler could then be beaten at the roadside unless they could prove theyd bought the vehicle that day ,in which case theyre just named in the local paper.
Perhaps its time that more countries started making it mandatory to use dipped headlights during daytime,it works perfectly well throughout all of Scandinavia.Less risk of dazzle because of badly adjusted fog lights.And before some idiot says its because its always dark here,dont forget we have 3 months of 24 hr daylight.Safety statistics prove it works.
Badly adjusted lights are a pain, agreed.
Open to correction on the following. 
Most truck “fog-lights” aren`t fog lights. They are auxiliary driving lights. Some may well even be headlights.
(Sure the switch has a fog symbol, but a mate of mine fitted a “Turbo Emergency Kill Switch” to his Gardner powered Foden…)
Fog lights are generally low mounted: (below 500mm if memory serves)
The most stupid lights IMHO, are those mounted on truck roofs, that shine on the road over humps illuminating the area the driver *cant see* but dazzling others there. When used in fog, mist, snow, they illuminate the water hanging in the air masking the view ahead. That is why real fog lights are low mounted, the beams they send out are illuminating the mist *below* the drivers line of sight.
Extra lights are, anywhere outside of competition events, 99% unnecessary. Fashion over form.
hutpik:
Perhaps its time that more countries started making it mandatory to use dipped headlights during daytime,it works perfectly well throughout all of Scandinavia.Less risk of dazzle because of badly adjusted fog lights.And before some idiot says its because its always dark here,dont forget we have 3 months of 24 hr daylight.Safety statistics prove it works.
I dont know if any recent studies have been done comparing the use of dipped beams with DRLs? I can easily accept that dipped beams are much better than nowt, but are they any/much better than DRLs?
Between cyclists using unlit roads without lights and suicidal pedestrians and potholes deep enough to smash wheels and suspension the idea of the more lights the better is understandable.
Fog lights definitely help to light up the latter.
Some of our newest volvos switch on a left or right side lamp when turning, I assume its using the front ‘fog’ lights. It tends to surprise me when it happens so switch if off rather than get used to it.
I think the very first time I drove one I thought I had some dodgy wiring taking a dip beam on and off.
Back when there was a Scania in the mix I used to find the high level main beams reflected back so much off any decent sized road sign at night the disadvantages outweighed any benefit.
njl:
Back when there was a Scania in the mix I used to find the high level main beams reflected back so much off any decent sized road sign at night the disadvantages outweighed any benefit.
Absolutely right.
Use excess lighting to the front, and your eyes adjust to it, so any less poorly illuminated objects to the go from being half visible to invisible.
Rally cars driving at very high speed in night time forests, not bothered by other road users, might well benefit from a bank of searchlights glued onto the bonnet, but the rest of us?
The truck I’ve just got and had for last 3 weeks has poor headlights, a pain in the arse on back roads or the type of ‘A’ roads that are red on a map. (Some on here wont even know what that means 
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I’ve got the height settings on the dash to max, but they are still ■■■■ poor, so I’ve found myself putting front fogs on which make all the difference, particularly in illuminating the grass verge on those dodgy roads.
I ain’t had a flash from other road users telling me to dip yet, so I’m assuming they are ok and not causing others problems.
Need to get them sorted in workshop, but keep forgetting when I get back.
I was once pulled in my home town by local copper years ago for inadvertently driving through the town one night with them on,.so I’m assuming it is technically illegal?
njl:
Sploom:
It’s very important that the front fogs are working.You never know when when you might have a blown headlight and need them to get back to the yard!I tried that once. Got a detour into the vosa yard to have the error or my ways corrected.
The key in that event is to turn the headlights off and run on sidelights and fogs so the blown bulb isn’t apparent from only one headline lit up 