Heard from an ex workmate that the firm he works for are installing trucknavs in all their trucks and banning the use of car satnavs. In addition the drivers must use the trucknav and postcode, advising against using maps and guesswork.
This is all to do with getting FORS gold; Anyone else heard this nonsense or is it a myth?
Would not surprise me if I’m honest.
Muckaway:
Heard from an ex workmate that the firm he works for are installing trucknavs in all their trucks and banning the use of car satnavs. In addition the drivers must use the trucknav and postcode, advising against using maps and guesswork.
This is all to do with getting FORS gold; Anyone else heard this nonsense or is it a myth?
Complete opersite ,they discourage the use of in cab technology. You have definitely heard ZB ■■■■ ,infact a fail for gold was that the auditor saw evidence of parrots fitted as in don’t use the hands free even .
Never heard of it to be honest.
But if it’s ture there’s nothing to say you have to use it etc. As once you leave the yard. The office won’t know if your following sat nav or going your own best route…
But if that’s the case. Then when it trys to send me down a dead end or a road is closed due to an accident I’d take great pleasure in phoning the office asking them for help. As obv I’m not allowed to think for myself so they can direct me around
FORS gold is a paperwork exercise full of management bull ■■■■ speak. Hardly any of it relates to the driver.
Muckaway:
Heard from an ex workmate that the firm he works for are installing trucknavs in all their trucks and banning the use of car satnavs. In addition the drivers must use the trucknav and postcode, advising against using maps and guesswork.
This is all to do with getting FORS gold; Anyone else heard this nonsense or is it a myth?
This is ■■■■■■■■
Punchy Dan:
Complete opersite ,they discourage the use of in cab technology. You have definitely heard ZB [zb] ,infact a fail for gold was that the auditor saw evidence of parrots fitted as in don’t use the hands free even .
So is this
Nite Owl:
FORS gold is a paperwork exercise full of management bull [zb] speak. Hardly any of it relates to the driver.
This is the truth.
Les Shoes:
Muckaway:
Heard from an ex workmate that the firm he works for are installing trucknavs in all their trucks and banning the use of car satnavs. In addition the drivers must use the trucknav and postcode, advising against using maps and guesswork.
This is all to do with getting FORS gold; Anyone else heard this nonsense or is it a myth?This is ■■■■■■■■
Punchy Dan:
Complete opersite ,they discourage the use of in cab technology. You have definitely heard ZB [zb] ,infact a fail for gold was that the auditor saw evidence of parrots fitted as in don’t use the hands free even .So is this
Nite Owl:
FORS gold is a paperwork exercise full of management bull [zb] speak. Hardly any of it relates to the driver.This is the truth.
Ey les I have had enough Fors audits to know what is what and I speak from first hand experience from a gold audit of which the auditor asked for evidence of other systems fitted to the lorries and on the same invoice from the auto electrian were some parrots itemised which the auditor was not impressed as the drivers had signed Fors document to say incab technology would not be used ,please enlighten me on your audits and Fors status .
Punchy Dan:
Les Shoes:
Muckaway:
Heard from an ex workmate that the firm he works for are installing trucknavs in all their trucks and banning the use of car satnavs. In addition the drivers must use the trucknav and postcode, advising against using maps and guesswork.
This is all to do with getting FORS gold; Anyone else heard this nonsense or is it a myth?This is ■■■■■■■■
Punchy Dan:
Complete opersite ,they discourage the use of in cab technology. You have definitely heard ZB [zb] ,infact a fail for gold was that the auditor saw evidence of parrots fitted as in don’t use the hands free even .So is this
Nite Owl:
FORS gold is a paperwork exercise full of management bull [zb] speak. Hardly any of it relates to the driver.This is the truth.
Ey les I have had enough Fors audits to know what is what and I speak from first hand experience from a gold audit of which the auditor asked for evidence of other systems fitted to the lorries and on the same invoice from the auto electrian were some parrots itemised which the auditor was not impressed as the drivers had signed Fors document to say incab technology would not be used ,please enlighten me on your audits and Fors status .
We’re also FORS Gold and run, like a lot of companies, modern lorries with built in Bluetooth communication equipment. ‘not impressed’ is not the same thing as failed.
They don’t need much to stop progression from silver to gold ,parrots on an invoice is basically a self confession of in cab technology when you have just shown the auditor the signed driver forms of none usage , have you ever prepared and presented your company for an audit personally ?
Punchy Dan:
They don’t need much to stop progression from silver to gold ,parrots on an invoice is basically a self confession of in cab technology when you have just shown the auditor the signed driver forms of none usage , have you ever prepared and presented your company for an audit personally ?
I have not, I would rather ■■■■ in my hands and clap than get involved with such management onanism.
Every vehicle in our fleet has hands free equipment, mostly factory fitted.
The last FORS e-learning I was forced to complete dealt with in-cab technology such as satnavs, in the usual patronising way it ‘taught’ us that we should set them before we depart and not adjust them while driving, certainly didn’t say we shouldn’t have them.
Les Shoes:
Punchy Dan:
They don’t need much to stop progression from silver to gold ,parrots on an invoice is basically a self confession of in cab technology when you have just shown the auditor the signed driver forms of none usage , have you ever prepared and presented your company for an audit personally ?I have not, I would rather [zb] in my hands and clap than get involved with such management onanism.
Every vehicle in our fleet has hands free equipment, mostly factory fitted.
The last FORS e-learning I was forced to complete dealt with in-cab technology such as satnavs, in the usual patronising way it ‘taught’ us that we should set them before we depart and not adjust them while driving, certainly didn’t say we shouldn’t have them.
There will have been a conversation that went along the lines of this:
Fors inspector- what has your company done to reduce the likelihood of bridge strikes and how is that evidenced.
Companys fors champion- we’ve made it company policy that drivers dont use their own sat nav. They use the pre approved directions that are given to them for each job. A factory fitted sat nav is installed for those occasions when they have to go off route. Ensuring the vehicle dimensions are correct is part of their daily check and needs ticking at the start of each shift. Every driver has signed to say they are aware of this company policy.
Fors inspector- excellent, I’d like to see this evidence please.
Company fors champion (lifting huge file out of the cupboard)- here you go.
Meanwhile, the drivers just carry on doing what they were always doing, completely oblivious to the fact that one of their pointy shoe wearing office bods is dancing to someone else’s tune.
Been finished on tippers for over a year now (not counting Roro driving) and not missing all the FORS, cycle awareness training, NVQs, tango suits, MPQC cards etc one bit. There’s more nonsense involved in moving stone than there is delivering fresh food FFS.
Crazy thing I have 4 sat navs in the cab. The company one. The DAF one. Google maps. Tom Tom truck. Tom Tom truck for weight limits and bridges a combination of all 4 for the last 500 meters.
So say for instance you are fors gold . You then hit a bridge or a cyclist. Do fors get involved ?. If it happens again and again Can a company loose it’s fors status?
Slightly off topic but FORS related,
I was talking to a driver at the pump the other day, generally moaning about the speed of the pumps and inefficiency of the whole site when he told me that they have to fill up every day because of FORS regardless of how little fuel they use. All company trucks and vans.
Seems illogical but entirely the sort of nonsense that they would want, any truth in it? Or possible reasons?
I’m struggling to think of a benefit.
You obviously. Didn’t see them sign on the pump
AVOID ALL EYE CONTACT WITH OTHERS
AND NO TALKING
A couple of years ago, operators were threatened with losing their FORS accreditation if they had “cyclists do not pass on this side” notices; The reason being was that the signs were basically being bossy. The old “Undertaker…Overtaker” ones were a bog no no too.
we run fors gold as far as i know the unit must have cameras all round it front back sides all the mirrors that are standard fitment on them.stickers on cab on both sides and in cab to no smoking no drugs or acholo.on trl it must be fitted with a rear camera fully stickered upall round it and fully safety pin and strap system.our trls have pins that are about 5ft high which have metal angels on so that u can slip strap though full length of trl 2 each side which are on winders so once u hook them up can tighten with a bar.only thing that ■■■■■■ me off if u tipped in london with a load that u can not install it u go to a site where its needed which is 4 to 6 mile away.u get there why u not got safety system in place u need it.err when can i stop in london to do it ill do it here.climb up to put pins up and get told to get down i hand them the pins ok u do it im off for breakfast. tell me when u done ill be back then when they see how hard it is to do it from floor they soon change minds and i dont rush to put it up either i take time so not fall off.
're fuel.
Not long ago went to a Palletline kind of place possibly stoke area? Was collecting some export pallets.
Loaded went to widow to collect notes. Was memos stuck to the wall around it. And as I usuallu do was reading them
One of the said driver bonus.
In order to qualify for.your monthly bonus you must achieve the following.
Drivers cab to be kept clean and tidy.
All.timed deliveries to be completed on time unless office is informed of any delays and your given a ref code as proof of contact.
No pallets are damaged in transit.
No.veichel damage.
Ok I get all the above.
Then at bottom of memo
It said any driver refuelling pre 11am will also forgoe his monthly.bonus.
Thinking what a bunch of idiots. If you need fuel you need fuel.
I’m guessing it’s there so you can get there am deliveries done with out wasting time on fuelling up?
thunder367:
we run fors gold as far as i know the unit must have cameras all round it front back sides all the mirrors that are standard fitment on them.stickers on cab on both sides and in cab to no smoking no drugs or acholo.on trl it must be fitted with a rear camera fully stickered upall round it and fully safety pin and strap system.our trls have pins that are about 5ft high which have metal angels on so that u can slip strap though full length of trl 2 each side which are on winders so once u hook them up can tighten with a bar.only thing that ■■■■■■ me off if u tipped in london with a load that u can not install it u go to a site where its needed which is 4 to 6 mile away.u get there why u not got safety system in place u need it.err when can i stop in london to do it ill do it here.climb up to put pins up and get told to get down i hand them the pins ok u do it im off for breakfast. tell me when u done ill be back then when they see how hard it is to do it from floor they soon change minds and i dont rush to put it up either i take time so not fall off.
The only camera required is a left turn one on the unit ,no other cameras are required.