La Janquera, October 1981. this was being driven by a chap called Wally from New Brighton. He was one of the funniest blokes I have ever met! I had 5 days there die to paperwork problems and a weekend, cant remember why he was stuck there but a few of us jumped into his unit and went down to the beach at Roses.
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1La Janquera, October 1981. this was being driven by a chap called Wally from New Brighton. He was one of the funniest blokes I have ever met! I had 5 days there die to paperwork problems and a weekend, cant remember why he was stuck there but a few of us jumped into his unit and went down to the beach at Roses.
bloody hell,it makes that 111 next to it look quite small lol
One of me old dads transcons anyone remember them ■■
Well I rather liked the high, proud Ford Transcontinental in the early 'eighties. I drove some for Colin Bolton of Faversham on 'fridge work. They are pictured below. The blue and white one had a ■■■■■■■ 290 and 9-speed Fuller 'box; the red and white one, on loan from Robin Phelps Transport had a ■■■■■■■ 350, 9-speed Fuller and went like f***k. These blighters would do 90 mph and there were no limiters or tachos then to stop you. My God I’d love to drive that 350 bugger now! Robert 
Hey, someone ever heart about an uprated version of the NTC340 (335) Transcon H34) for Italy.
It must have had 352 DIN hp.
Cheers Eric,
transcon on ebay in midlands
tiptop495:
Hey, someone ever heart about an uprated version of the NTC340 (335) Transcon H34) for Italy.
It must have had 352 DIN hp.Cheers Eric,
Hi Tiptop. The first Transcons, IIRC, had their own “special” 355bhp gross version of the NTC. It had 342bhp to BS141, which would be about 347 DIN. Most makes had a way around the Italian 352bhp DIN rule- a few extra bhp can be found with a bit of spanner work on the pump, so it seems.
[zb]
anorak:tiptop495:
Hey, someone ever heart about an uprated version of the NTC340 (335) Transcon H34) for Italy.
It must have had 352 DIN hp.Cheers Eric,
Hi Tiptop. The first Transcons, IIRC, had their own “special” 355bhp gross version of the NTC. It had 342bhp to BS141, which would be about 347 DIN. Most makes had a way around the Italian 352bhp DIN rule- a few extra bhp can be found with a bit of spanner work on the pump, so it seems.
Hey Anorak, i agree with you but in '77 when the Italian market opened,you needed the asked real power. Because it was a battle with foreigner for Fiat.
But for ■■■■■■■ it normaly wasn’t a problem I know,but it was only to know more about or it was used outside Italy (typ).
Most had an only Italian engine.
Volvo did the same as the 290 GB engine and with the same result a bit weak quality TD 120B 89 TD120D F12
MB used an engine only used by MAN, but called it ■■32 and OM403(X) the same as the V10 320hp.
Maggie had the V12
Only Scania and Berliet were on top of the job with the everywhere used 141/TR350.
And Bedford with it’s V8 92TT/T 365/400hp ■■?
But much must have had weak points with a turn on the pump, as the big engines with fuel consumption (Fiat’s 352hp).
cheers Eric,
tiptop495:
[zb]
anorak:tiptop495:
Hey, someone ever heart about an uprated version of the NTC340 (335) Transcon H34) for Italy.
It must have had 352 DIN hp.Cheers Eric,
Hi Tiptop. The first Transcons, IIRC, had their own “special” 355bhp gross version of the NTC. It had 342bhp to BS141, which would be about 347 DIN. Most makes had a way around the Italian 352bhp DIN rule- a few extra bhp can be found with a bit of spanner work on the pump, so it seems.
Hey Anorak, i agree with you but in '77 when the Italian market opened,you needed the asked real power. Because it was a battle with foreigner for Fiat.
But for ■■■■■■■ it normaly wasn’t a problem I know,but it was only to know more about or it was used outside Italy (typ).
Most had an only Italian engine.
Volvo did the same as the 290 GB engine and with the same result a bit weak quality TD 120B 89 TD120D F12
MB used an engine only used by MAN, but called it ■■32 and OM403(X) the same as the V10 320hp.
Maggie had the V12
Only Scania and Berliet were on top of the job with the everywhere used 141/TR350.
And Bedford with it’s V8 92TT/T 365/400hp ■■?
But much must have had weak points with a turn on the pump, as the big engines with fuel consumption (Fiat’s 352hp).cheers Eric,
I guess that, when the Italians made their 352bhp rule law, the manufacturers made the modifications, then submitted an engine to DIN for a test certificate. I thought the rule came out earlier than 1977, although I might be wrong, as usual. 
1975 would make sense, for that is when Fiat launched its 190F35.
What were the problems with the 352bhp F89s?
Pegaso introduced a 352bhp engine in 1972(?). I think this was DIN, but I may be wrong again! I wonder if they anticipated the Italian rules, or just wanted to say they had the most powerful engine in Europe? Do you have any experience of these engines?
[zb]
anorak:tiptop495:
[zb]
anorak:tiptop495:
Hey, someone ever heart about an uprated version of the NTC340 (335) Transcon H34) for Italy.
It must have had 352 DIN hp.Cheers Eric,
Hi Tiptop. The first Transcons, IIRC, had their own “special” 355bhp gross version of the NTC. It had 342bhp to BS141, which would be about 347 DIN. Most makes had a way around the Italian 352bhp DIN rule- a few extra bhp can be found with a bit of spanner work on the pump, so it seems.
Hey Anorak, i agree with you but in '77 when the Italian market opened,you needed the asked real power. Because it was a battle with foreigner for Fiat.
But for ■■■■■■■ it normaly wasn’t a problem I know,but it was only to know more about or it was used outside Italy (typ).
Most had an only Italian engine.
Volvo did the same as the 290 GB engine and with the same result a bit weak quality TD 120B 89 TD120D F12
MB used an engine only used by MAN, but called it ■■32 and OM403(X) the same as the V10 320hp.
Maggie had the V12
Only Scania and Berliet were on top of the job with the everywhere used 141/TR350.
And Bedford with it’s V8 92TT/T 365/400hp ■■?
But much must have had weak points with a turn on the pump, as the big engines with fuel consumption (Fiat’s 352hp).cheers Eric,
I guess that, when the Italians made their 352bhp rule law, the manufacturers made the modifications, then submitted an engine to DIN for a test certificate. I thought the rule came out earlier than 1977, although I might be wrong, as usual.
What were the problems with the 352bhp F89s?
Pegaso introduced a 352bhp engine in 1972(?). I think this was DIN, but I may be wrong again! I wonder if they anticipated the Italian rules, or just wanted to say they had the most powerful engine in Europe? Do you have any experience of these engines?
First Fiat came with the new 17 litre engine in '75 with 330DIN and turn on the pump for '77 (190 350 352hp). Not a big problem for such a big engine but it needed fuel even more as MB or other fuelwaisters but delivered power.
It was also the crisis time big fuel prices so Scania was strong economical.
Have no experience with the Italian Volvo’s but from hearing it was a bit like the 290 GB and the first F10 TB100B (one of three was good ■■) Low compression (13.3) so glow before starting,smoking. But as Always Volvo gave warranties and good service and so stayed strong.
About Pegaso I think too it was DIN I should have to look in may brochures. But if they were sold here in Belgium ■■?
No exprerience with Pegaso but about hearing it wasn’t so good. But after some years of absence they came back and sold well and were better as some stayed loyal with them till Iveco took over.
I don’t think that it was so easy to get round the Italian rules as the German rules.
German rules were made on Germans engine strenght,when the 6HP/38T came they let
Because all made a special engine for it from a standard,and so some must have had problems.
Look Daf used the standard 320hp and only turned on the pump for 352hp. And as the first 3300 came they had still the DKS engine block and easy cracked so a 352 on a 2800 must have given problems.
Man put a turbo,but Always had problems with it till the 321 came which was difficult to beat.
Man offered earlier as Scania turbo’s on their heavies witch Always gave troubles so after a while you Always has a choise
320 V10 non T V8 320 turbo. Volume or turbo.
MB and Maggie played it savely with the higher volume engine.
I don’t know as Pega was on the Italien market,it was difficult for the smaller I think.
And all sold well (a new broom sweeps clean).
Cheers Eric,
Can I add my old Transcon in here too please?
We had three on BJ Transport.
An S reg 320 which had the isolated earth system and the old twin PAS rams, and two V reg’s with the 290 and 9spd Fuller in them.
I think the old one’s reg was possibly XHK 324S, then there was NEV 88V and mine was (IIRC) MBJ 439V
This is mine at Frans Maas in Great Yarmouth in 1985 (I’d guess)
And the old S reg going for an overtake
Just ‘new’ to this thread, however very promissing and impressive!
Bear in mind that Heemex-Cementbouw (NL) and CAST (B) drove hundreds!!!
Keep up the good work here…to be continued
ERF-Continental:
Just ‘new’ to this thread, however very promissing and impressive!Bear in mind that Heemex-Cementbouw (NL) and CAST (B) drove hundreds!!!
Keep up the good work here…to be continued
Hey, and happy were the drivers if they got an MB 1926 afterwards,I still hear it saying by them same at Deluyker part of CB.
Cheers Eric,
3424 updated by ■■■■■■■ rainham. Had a very low speed diff. Would only do 60 no good !!!
This one didn’t need a rainham tickle…
4432 Austrian spec…lhd came on 1200x20 and steel mudguards. Accident happened near Berlin and still got home. A car span out of control in front on a very wet autobahn
4428 Ydc 244y bought from Charlie reed
Sorry about the wonkey photos can’t seem to work it out…blame the machine!!