mike68:
karl67:
Trouble Tesco bring in these rules and he’s just followed them.Some have even asked the store staff to start the lorry, Tesco answer was big no no.
The duty manager offered to start the truck but the driver refused as he had not been trained.
Fair enough as it’s not by Tesco’s book.
F-reds:
This thread highlights everything wrong in the world today.If you can’t get down safely from a standard trailer tail lift without assistance once in a blue moon, then said driver isn’t fit enough to leave the sofa.
And who’s going to pay his wage if something does go wrong ?
Thing is, some companies love to issue edicts that <x,y,z> must never happen - I daresay this bloke’s employer has issued instructions that on no account are drivers to jump or climb down from the back of a trailer other than by using the tail-lift or the steps. Our lot issued some instructions about some specific off-contract deliveries that we take along with our regular pallets. The instructions (and we all had to sign to say we had read them and received a copy) said that said pallets must not be broken down. Of course, just a few weeks later I had such a pallet on my load, double-stacked on top of one of ours and clearly labelled “fragile”. As it was for a different destination than the one underneath it, I called the office to ask how they wanted me to make this delivery (bearing in mind it all comes off via the tail-lift and the only mechanical assistance I have is a pump truck). After several minutes, a decision was reached further up the food chain that it was indeed OK to break these pallets down. So why issue the instruction in the first place?
And if your in the back of the trailer and just filled the tail lift with 6 ft high cages and it sticks 6 inches down would you climb over the top and jump down, I know bloody well I wouldn’t(cos I’m old). The logical solution would be to ask someone to start the engine but if they refused for whatever reason, what then… get someone to phone base depot and come out but I would think fire brigade would be a very last resort.
karl67:
And who’s going to pay his wage if something does go wrong ?
God, I hope you are joking
F-reds:
karl67:
And who’s going to pay his wage if something does go wrong ?God, I hope you are joking
Please refer to my earlier post, jumping down from 9/10 ft in the air would be problematical for most(especially me!!)
karl67:
F-reds:
This thread highlights everything wrong in the world today.If you can’t get down safely from a standard trailer tail lift without assistance once in a blue moon, then said driver isn’t fit enough to leave the sofa.
And who’s going to pay his wage if something does go wrong ?
Something could go wrong just getting in and out of the cab, maybe he could ring the fire brigade every time he exits the vehicle.
matamoros:
F-reds:
karl67:
And who’s going to pay his wage if something does go wrong ?God, I hope you are joking
Please refer to my earlier post, jumping down from 9/10 ft in the air would be problematical for most(especially me!!)
He’s on a trailer with a tail-lift. They are nowhere near 9/10ft up (unless it’s a DD or similar)
SteveBarnsleytrucker:
karl67:
F-reds:
This thread highlights everything wrong in the world today.If you can’t get down safely from a standard trailer tail lift without assistance once in a blue moon, then said driver isn’t fit enough to leave the sofa.
And who’s going to pay his wage if something does go wrong ?
Something could go wrong just getting in and out of the cab, maybe he could ring the fire brigade every time he exits the vehicle.
Now your being stupid
Roymondo:
matamoros:
F-reds:
karl67:
And who’s going to pay his wage if something does go wrong ?God, I hope you are joking
Please refer to my earlier post, jumping down from 9/10 ft in the air would be problematical for most(especially me!!)
He’s on a trailer with a tail-lift. They are nowhere near 9/10ft up (unless it’s a DD or similar)
Please read my earlier post, a tail lift with 6 ft high cages on, 6 inches down so unable to get cages off. Climb on top off the cages, on an unstable surface to boot,and I think you may find that you are 9/10 ft off the ground.
karl67:
SteveBarnsleytrucker:
karl67:
F-reds:
This thread highlights everything wrong in the world today.If you can’t get down safely from a standard trailer tail lift without assistance once in a blue moon, then said driver isn’t fit enough to leave the sofa.
And who’s going to pay his wage if something does go wrong ?
Something could go wrong just getting in and out of the cab, maybe he could ring the fire brigade every time he exits the vehicle.
Now your being stupid
that’s why there’s grab bars and steps Steve so yes your being silly now…
I just wonder how the Guy with only 1 arm passed the SSOW at DHL Currys Avonmouth as the H&S states 3 points of contact in entering and leaving the vehicle and trailer at all times …
Think about the number of times he has to enter and leave the vehicle in a shift .
vehicle checks, picking up trl, Up and down on the cat walk, pull off the bay, lift tail lift, out again at security, then arrive at receiving depot, lower tail lift security, drop trl, move to park up, out to office for next trl, pick up, security then all the same back at home depot and if because you have 2 arms and you don’t exit the cab using 3 points of contact at all times your in for a right ear bending 
matamoros:
Please read my earlier post, a tail lift with 6 ft high cages on, 6 inches down so unable to get cages off. Climb on top off the cages, on an unstable surface to boot,and I think you may find that you are 9/10 ft off the ground.
That’s why some places state only 2 cages at a time now
karl67:
SteveBarnsleytrucker:
karl67:
F-reds:
This thread highlights everything wrong in the world today.If you can’t get down safely from a standard trailer tail lift without assistance once in a blue moon, then said driver isn’t fit enough to leave the sofa.
And who’s going to pay his wage if something does go wrong ?
Something could go wrong just getting in and out of the cab, maybe he could ring the fire brigade every time he exits the vehicle.
Now your being stupid
No just being sarcastic 
you sound like an H/S officers dream and an employers nightmare we have them at our place,"I ain’t climbing onto the trailer, H/S this H/S that blah, blah,blah"but yet come Friday and they’re tipping out a load of glass at Catrine they’re straight up quicker than a rat up a drain pipe because they want to get home this industry is full of folk with the attitude of its not ok to do unless it suits me.
Just how the lads who did the middle East and old heads got on in the old days of flat trailers roping and sheeting etc I’ll never know 
nick2008:
karl67:
SteveBarnsleytrucker:
karl67:
F-reds:
This thread highlights everything wrong in the world today.If you can’t get down safely from a standard trailer tail lift without assistance once in a blue moon, then said driver isn’t fit enough to leave the sofa.
And who’s going to pay his wage if something does go wrong ?
Something could go wrong just getting in and out of the cab, maybe he could ring the fire brigade every time he exits the vehicle.
Now your being stupid
that’s why there’s grab bars and steps Steve so yes your being silly now…
I just wonder how the Guy with only 1 arm passed the SSOW at DHL Currys Avonmouth as the H&S states 3 points of contact in entering and leaving the vehicle and trailer at all times …
Think about the number of times he has to enter and leave the vehicle in a shift .
vehicle checks, picking up trl, Up and down on the cat walk, pull off the bay, lift tail lift, out again at security, then arrive at receiving depot, lower tail lift security, drop trl, move to park up, out to office for next trl, pick up, security then all the same back at home depot and if because you have 2 arms and you don’t exit the cab using 3 points of contact at all times your in for a right ear bending
I’ve heard of drivers even with 3 points of contact lose their balance when exiting the cab and falling banging their head on the concrete and ending up in a coma or brain damaged.
9/10ft off the ground with a decker yes, but a standard trailer no. A tail lift height is about shoulder height on me around 5ft.
There are dozens and dozens of things that could have been done to get this guy down, divert another driver to his location to start his bleedin engine. Although numb nuts up in the trailer would probably refuse that aswell as his card is in!
Any normal driver would have pulled a plate up sat on the edge and made the small jump, or through down the keys to a unformed staff member. Or ask for a set of ladders which they have to get to the very top of the shelves for storage. Or build a set of steps out of pallets. No this driver is your stereotypical fanny, and it sounds very much like Karl on this thread would do the same. I totally agree it’s in the company rules about jumping off wagons, 3 points of contact but it’s fannys of this world that have caused compaines to cover their arse so much
The fire bridge should take the call but have the powers to fine the company heavily. Then said company should stick the driver on the worst run day in and day out teach the stupid ■■■■■■■■ a lesson.
merc0447:
I totally agree it’s in the company rules about jumping off wagons, 3 points of contact but it’s fannys of this world that have caused compaines to cover their arse so much totally agreedThe fire bridge should take the call but have the powers to fine the company heavily. Then said company should stick the driver on the worst run day in and day out teach the stupid [zb] a lesson.
they don’t fine they INVOICE and years ago it was £1k per appliance
matamoros:
Roymondo:
matamoros:
F-reds:
karl67:
And who’s going to pay his wage if something does go wrong ?God, I hope you are joking
Please refer to my earlier post, jumping down from 9/10 ft in the air would be problematical for most(especially me!!)
He’s on a trailer with a tail-lift. They are nowhere near 9/10ft up (unless it’s a DD or similar)
Please read my earlier post, a tail lift with 6 ft high cages on, 6 inches down so unable to get cages off. Climb on top off the cages, on an unstable surface to boot,and I think you may find that you are 9/10 ft off the ground.
“Stand clear!”
Shove cage off the lift.
Now nowhere near 9-10 ft off the ground (and with any luck, a cage lying on its side next to the lift to give you a safe step down). Simples.
Roymondo:
matamoros:
Roymondo:
matamoros:
F-reds:
karl67:
And who’s going to pay his wage if something does go wrong ?God, I hope you are joking
Please refer to my earlier post, jumping down from 9/10 ft in the air would be problematical for most(especially me!!)
He’s on a trailer with a tail-lift. They are nowhere near 9/10ft up (unless it’s a DD or similar)
Please read my earlier post, a tail lift with 6 ft high cages on, 6 inches down so unable to get cages off. Climb on top off the cages, on an unstable surface to boot,and I think you may find that you are 9/10 ft off the ground.
“Stand clear!”
Shove cage off the lift.
Now nowhere near 9-10 ft off the ground (and with any luck, a cage lying on its side next to the lift to give you a safe step down). Simples.
you’ll get the sack for that …
you’ve been thinking and as your ONLY a driver that’s forbidden
If there were cages on the tail lift, put them back inside the wagon.
I do hope the fire and rescue service send an invoice for the time spent retrieving your colleague. Lets just hope they weren’t sent away from something more important like saving somebody in real peril.
m1cks:
If there were cages on the tail lift, put them back inside the wagon.
I do hope the fire and rescue service send an invoice for the time spent retrieving your colleague. Lets just hope they weren’t sent away from something more important like saving somebody in real peril.
Please read my earlier post, a tail lift with 6 ft high cages on, 6 inches down so unable to get cages off.