Ben9:
The latest fad with Security guards is on way out of somewhere-
SG- Need to look in the back driver,
ME- OK its unlocked
SG- We can’t open the back doors
ME- Yes you can, its really easy
SG- But we are not aloud
ME- Why■■? (even Stevie Wonder can see this one coming)
SG- Health and safety won’t allow it
ME- OK but if it’s unsafe for you then surely it’s unsafe for me to do it.
SG- No it’s different
ME- I assume you have a copy of the risk assesment that has been carried out?
SG- Not on me
ME- Go get it then and get the site H+S person then please.
SG- Off you go don’t matter this time, just sign this saying I have searched you.
ME- Will do thanks, bye.
That’s reminds me other day in one of the scottish RDC’s for well-known supermarket networks
its just one of them rules i,m afraid orys, set up by the management,
A site that came under my area had a rule set up that all trailers were to be sealed once loaded, we took on a guy whos only duty was to go around sealing trailers and completing the relevant paperwork, however once at the gate the seal had to be broken as the same company wanted a pallet count as the trucks left the yard, must have cost a samll fortune as this was a 24/7 operation, i guess they did,nt trust their own staff.
dle1uk:
A site that came under my area had a rule set up that all trailers were to be sealed once loaded, we took on a guy whos only duty was to go around sealing trailers and completing the relevant paperwork, however once at the gate the seal had to be broken
That’s sounds a bit coopish to me I like these gatehouses with roads yellow of the broken seals…
Only had one experience with an RDC gatehouse and wasn’t even in a lorry… was in an excort van!
Was when I was a (not very good or experienced) parts slinger for local haulier. Story was it had been sorted with the top brass at said RDC and our own office that I was to leave a part at the gatehouse (a volvo air drier) for lorry X to collect when he was leaving the center as he was heading straight for the ferry home and was delivering it to the garage over there to get a vehicle back out on the road.
So there I am waiting my turn at the gate between artics in a ■■■■■■ van and when it came my turn I got out and stood on the kerb at the window rather than shouting up.
ME- How you doing
HIM- Get out of the way son your not getting in in that
ME- No problem I dont want in. Mr X in your office says Im to leave this with you to give to reg abc 123 when he’s leaving (hold up the box)
HIM- (Laughing) Ha thats nothing to do with me you’ll just have to wait. 'Hell is it anyway?
ME- Air drier for a FH
HIM- Hair drier what the hell is that about?
ME- If you’d just call your man in the office there he’ll explain
HIM- No no they’d have told me MOVE NOW (by now there was a right old que gathering behind me)
By the time the fella at the other window had finished signing someone out he turned round saying (to his collegue)
“What the ■■■■ are you doing, the office phoned us not half an hour ago telling us this so ■■■■ up and take the ■■■■■■■ box you [zb]!!!”
He then snatched it out of my hand said you’ll have to move now, no problem I said open the gate let us out the other (because there was a que tight behind me)
Oh no cant do that
So his matey shouted over go on ahead son and flipped open the gates and nodded at me when I went out the exit gate while bucko was left fuming.
Still to this day I can’t understand what the attitide was all about considering he knew right away who I was and what I was doing.
I think Orys has written another good post about this subject too. But the point about not trusting staff is a good one. The SG tries to look and act like Mr McKie off Porridge.
If someone treats another human being like scum, they have to expect to be treated in the same way. In most factories in Europe, the guard is there to help drivers find their way around, to arrange the staff to meet a driver at an unfamiliar site. OK, some may have extra responsibility like checking trucks & paperwork but generally they are friendly, not officious.
dle1uk:
true I don,t know the place but you say you were peeved because you were asked to move your truck but you wanted to finish your break even though you state yard was busy, but then chose to slag the security guy off because he wanted his break,
perhaps the security guy had not had a cuppa since his shift started maybe hours could be minutes but end of the day everyone deserves/earns a break.
but also heaps of inbounds maybe these were being dalayed coming in as no parking places? you say yard was very busy,
Please please please read read and read again…because what you say has nothing to do with what I originally posted! I have to by law take a break…gatemen can wait til its quiet can they not, seeing as they probably do 3 hours actual work out of a 12 hour shift (hence the poor pay)
I wasnt stopping anybody doing anything where I was parked…it was when I moved off that I would of been blocking the road had I chosen to allow a vehicle stopped at a give way sign priority.
the inbound trucks were held up by the fact that the outbound gateman had gone to make a cup of tea and left the girl booking in the vehicles to deal with the outbound vehicles also
AND FINALLY MY GRIPE WAS WITH THE SHUNTER DRIVER WHO VERBALLY ABUSED ME…THE GATEMAN GOT A GOBFULL BECAUSE HE CHOSE TO COMMENT ON A MATTER THAT HAD ABSOULUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH HIM!
you say when you got there it was busy 20 trucks when they all buggered off for a break, you then slag gateman for him having his cup of tea! we all have to have breaks by law it doesnt just apply to a driver, how can a gateman have a break when its quiet? how do you when this is gonna be, you were on site and state that it was busy since your arrival and then getting busier whilst you had your break.
other comments on this thread initiate the winding up of gate guys, so if every driver does this its no wonder drivers get treated the way they do is it?
as I have said I have experience from both and its the attitude that you give out that offends, you state the low pay the fact he only does 3 hours work in 12, how do you know what he does? what his experience is ect.
I,m earning less now driving then i was 10 years ago as a security officer, yep some poor paid security jobs but some good ones, this applies to driving as well.
I appreciate some guards are little hitlers, but most are good guys just doing what you are doing trying to earn money.
the guard may have jumped to a conclusion on what he saw witnessed ect the same way you have jumped to a conclusion on him,
dle1uk:
you say when you got there it was busy 20 trucks when they all buggered off for a break, you then slag gateman for him having his cup of tea! we all have to have breaks by law it doesnt just apply to a driver, how can a gateman have a break when its quiet? how do you when this is gonna be, you were on site and state that it was busy since your arrival and then getting busier whilst you had your break.
other comments on this thread initiate the winding up of gate guys, so if every driver does this its no wonder drivers get treated the way they do is it?
as I have said I have experience from both and its the attitude that you give out that offends, you state the low pay the fact he only does 3 hours work in 12, how do you know what he does? what his experience is ect.
I,m earning less now driving then i was 10 years ago as a security officer, yep some poor paid security jobs but some good ones, this applies to driving as well.
I appreciate some guards are little hitlers, but most are good guys just doing what you are doing trying to earn money.
the guard may have jumped to a conclusion on what he saw witnessed ect the same way you have jumped to a conclusion on him,
You live a very sheltered life then driver, the decent ‘security’ guards are far outweighed by the aggressive, awkward, jobsworth type, or those that have a problem speaking English, hence all the comments about such things Or are we all liars
The OP that you find so infuriating has been explained to you, yet you still bleat on about it, this isn’t a thread saying that ALL security people are like this, there are many that are helpful, friendly people, this thread is about the ones who are not
this week i had the pleasure of stripping down 28 pallets of yougurts, cheese extra,it was morr wakfield which is my worst nightmare but this time there was a sound bunch of lads who got stuck in and we got the job done
but then the blonde haired old bag spoilt it by asking if id heped strip down but even though i said yes and the lads in the warehouse had give me my keys she had to call in warehouse manager to check if i was telling the truth , he gave her a right mouthfull telling her to just give the stobart lad his keys and let him go.
contrast her with the lovely old lady on the booking desk at morr stockton on sat ,couldnt be more helpfull, and a parting shot of HERE YOU ARE MY LOVE HERES YOUR KEYS AND PAPER WORK SEE YOU LATER.
then on the way out i stopped in the right hand lane to book out much to the dismay of the morr driver in his unit , he only had to wait a few seconds but he looked none too impressed when i gave him the thumbs up as i left.
my only thought were what a lovely old lady and thank zb that blonde haired cow aint my mrs,its bad enough putting up with here for 2 mins, imagine being married to it
I like these gatehouses with roads yellow of the broken seals…
Or are we all liars 
