mrginge:
Im surprised I don’t get more infringements sometimes.Been using ferry mode a couple of times a week lately without a thought for the 24hr rule just remembering I can’t use a 9hr break and add minutes moving on to the 11hr.
Obviously not working hard enough.
I’m surprised your boss actually turns a profit.
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Franglais:
mrginge:
Im surprised I don’t get more infringements sometimes.Been using ferry mode a couple of times a week lately without a thought for the 24hr rule just remembering I can’t use a 9hr break and add minutes moving on to the 11hr.
Obviously not working hard enough.
I’m surprised your boss actually turns a profit.
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My boss/owner has just retired to his life of leisure so he must have quoted jobs accordingly haha
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lewn777:
I’ got some infringements a few weeks ago none this week. Here’s my take for anyone new/confused by ferry mode:-The law says 11 hour rest period, but if you take a 9 hour reduced rest providing you still have one remaining that week you’ll be fine. You’re basically flagging a legal rest as why you moved so legal rest is legal rest.
-Start Ferry mode just before you move on to the ferry, turn it off when aboard and movements have finished. Start ferry mode again before disembarking and leave on until you find a legal place to rest unless rest has already been 9 hours or more/legal amount total.
-Do not allow the tacho to go to rest/POA if you stop/turn off your engine/ignition during embarking or disembarking, this will count as a movement, more than two movements and this will show up as insufficient rest infringement. Ferry mode defualts to other work and drive when the engine is running despite tacho set-up. Monitor the tacho and make sure it never goes to rest or POA, if it does manually reselect other work within 30 seconds.
-Make certain that tacho is set to rest when you leave your lorry on the boat and go to your cabin.
-Doesn’t matter much about countries - when you log out of a country or log in to a new one, or forget entirely doesn’t cause an infringement, but it’s something you should do.
-Doesn’t matter about changing the time, if entering a new time zone. doesn’t cause an infringement as tacho uses to UTC as default.
For anyone new/confused by ferry mode:
The only correct point made above is “Make certain that tacho is set to rest when you leave your lorry on the boat and go to your cabin.”
Every other point made is incorrect.
barrykam:
lewn777:
I’ got some infringements a few weeks ago none this week. Here’s my take for anyone new/confused by ferry mode:-The law says 11 hour rest period, but if you take a 9 hour reduced rest providing you still have one remaining that week you’ll be fine. You’re basically flagging a legal rest as why you moved so legal rest is legal rest.
-Start Ferry mode just before you move on to the ferry, turn it off when aboard and movements have finished. Start ferry mode again before disembarking and leave on until you find a legal place to rest unless rest has already been 9 hours or more/legal amount total.
-Do not allow the tacho to go to rest/POA if you stop/turn off your engine/ignition during embarking or disembarking, this will count as a movement, more than two movements and this will show up as insufficient rest infringement. Ferry mode defualts to other work and drive when the engine is running despite tacho set-up. Monitor the tacho and make sure it never goes to rest or POA, if it does manually reselect other work within 30 seconds.
-Make certain that tacho is set to rest when you leave your lorry on the boat and go to your cabin.
-Doesn’t matter much about countries - when you log out of a country or log in to a new one, or forget entirely doesn’t cause an infringement, but it’s something you should do.
-Doesn’t matter about changing the time, if entering a new time zone. doesn’t cause an infringement as tacho uses to UTC as default.
For anyone new/confused by ferry mode:
The only correct point made above is “Make certain that tacho is set to rest when you leave your lorry on the boat and go to your cabin.”
Every other point made is incorrect.
Ferry mode is not a '‘mode’. When you scroll down through the menu and click that ‘mode’, what you are doing is inserting a flag on your tachograph recording to show that this movement is for the purpose of boarding/disembarking a ferry or train. There is no need to switch it off, because you haven’t switched anything on.
When you arrive at the ferry terminal and park up, log off as the end of shift.
Just before you start the movement to start boarding the ferry, you scroll through the menu and click ferry movement. You can stop and start as often as necessary, your tacho can record whatever it is set to record when the wheels stop turning, it makes no difference.
Once parked up on the ferry, switch to rest. Do not log off shift for a second time.
You can potentially have completed your 11 hours rest (or a split rest), plus movement time, before starting to move off the ferry. If you have, log on shift and start your days work.
If not, just before moving, scroll through the menu again and click ferry movement again. Do not log on shift.
Disembark, go through whatever procedures are required and park up again. Switch your tacho to rest and complete your 11 hours rest.
The total movement time, of both movements, must not exceed 1 hour. This includes both the actual time driving and any time spent waiting in a queue.
When your 11 hour rest, plus movement time, is completed, log on shift and start your days work.
The rules state that only a regular daily rest period may be interrupted in this way. Therefore you cannot use a ferry movement during a 9 hour rest period.
The UK government have produced a booklet for your guidance, this is available on-line, here is a link to it - gov.uk/guidance/drivers-hou … s-vehicles.
There is a section in it, with diagrams, specifically about ferry movements during a regular rest period.
Since Brexit, we are no longer subject to EU rules, like Switzerland isn’t. We ARE subject to AETR rules, like Switzerland is.
There is no difference between EU rules and AETR rules, essentially they are one and the same.
Your digi-tachograph is designed to record in UTC (GMT to ordinary folk), you cannot change this, other than the 1 minute per week adjustment for any ‘wandering’ of the clock.
You can change the displayed time any time you like, to display the time of any zone you want it to display. This does not change the recorded time from UTC.