muckles:
NewLad:
muckles:
NewLad:
My current employer doesn’t do anything for the staff other than offer a basic pension,That’s better than many.
I thought it was a legal requirement for big employers to enroll employees into a pension scheme, ours is the bare legal minimum requirement, nothing special.
yes I see what you mean, I thought you meant a company scheme.
No mate, it’s they type where the management fees are as much as the contributions aka CARP
New Lad, i don’t wish to pry nor know who its is you’re going to, and i like most here congratulate you on finding something substantially better.
Purely out of interest, and i ask as the company i work for have never advertised, was this an advertised job (somehow i doubt it was) or was it one of those lucky right place right time or word of mouth moments, you presumably got the offer and snatched their hand off, just as anyone with an ounce of common sense would do.
Might be interesting to give an idea of how you secured such a good move, maybe inspire some of the other drivers with their heads screwed on well into doing similar when the opportunity arises.
If the job you are leaving is £60 to £80 a day behind they really do not deserve quality staff, and the sooner companies like them go to the wall or are forced to up their game to survive the better for all the good drivers out there.
Juddian:
If the job you are leaving is £60 to £80 a day behind they really do not deserve quality staff, and the sooner companies like them go to the wall or are forced to up their game to survive the better for all the good drivers out there.
If 30 have left since December and more are going, thing must be bad there and getting better for drivers in the area. 
Juddian:
New Lad, i don’t wish to pry nor know who its is you’re going to, and i like most here congratulate you on finding something substantially better.Purely out of interest, and i ask as the company i work for have never advertised, was this an advertised job (somehow i doubt it was) or was it one of those lucky right place right time or word of mouth moments, you presumably got the offer and snatched their hand off, just as anyone with an ounce of common sense would do.
Might be interesting to give an idea of how you secured such a good move, maybe inspire some of the other drivers with their heads screwed on well into doing similar when the opportunity arises.
If the job you are leaving is £60 to £80 a day behind they really do not deserve quality staff, and the sooner companies like them go to the wall or are forced to up their game to survive the better for all the good drivers out there.
The job is one which is still heavily under the Union, there is a core of drivers (who are on better terms than myself) that flat refuse any form of change. The job WAS advertised, although it wasn’t an easily found advert (I really had to hunt for it!) and tbh I don’t think it is a job for “everyone”, you can either do it or you can’t.
It’s not that I will be on £60-£80 a day more (I will be on more than my day rate currently) but IF I do overtime I’ll be around £200 a week better off or if I could legally do the hours I’m doing now (which I can’t because the current drivers refuse to come out of the night time working time directive rules) I’d be on over a grand a week.
It doesn’t come without it’s compromises though, Christmas Day working is required (you’re paid a premium for this) and some weekend work is required (out of 8 weeks you only get 5 weekend days off and only once are you off Saturday and Sunday and once Friday and Saturday), you can be called in at 24hrs notice on certain days on the rota too and you 100% can NOT refuse to do the shift, so it isn’t all a bed of roses.
What it should do though it easily maintain my standard of living while giving me a lot more time at home with my family and IF I do, do overtime I’ll be £ in.
muckles:
Juddian:
If the job you are leaving is £60 to £80 a day behind they really do not deserve quality staff, and the sooner companies like them go to the wall or are forced to up their game to survive the better for all the good drivers out there.If 30 have left since December and more are going, thing must be bad there and getting better for drivers in the area.
The thing is for the area the money used to be good, but since the DCPC came in all the other local hauliers have increased their rates and although it sounds low for other areas of the country you can now quite easily get £9ph in Lincolnshire where as just last year £7.50ph was common.
So when you’re on multi drop for £120 a day all in, including all fuel, attendance and meal allowances with a potential 15 hour day 3x a week other firms doing straight loads to Asda and Tesco have now started to compete.
Obviously as people have started leaving the shifts of the people left behind have increased in length as the work is still there but the bums are not on the seats pulling the trailers, which makes the problem worse because then everyone is looking to leave.
NewLad:
Juddian:
New Lad, i don’t wish to pry nor know who its is you’re going to, and i like most here congratulate you on finding something substantially better.Purely out of interest, and i ask as the company i work for have never advertised, was this an advertised job (somehow i doubt it was) or was it one of those lucky right place right time or word of mouth moments, you presumably got the offer and snatched their hand off, just as anyone with an ounce of common sense would do.
Might be interesting to give an idea of how you secured such a good move, maybe inspire some of the other drivers with their heads screwed on well into doing similar when the opportunity arises.
If the job you are leaving is £60 to £80 a day behind they really do not deserve quality staff, and the sooner companies like them go to the wall or are forced to up their game to survive the better for all the good drivers out there.
The job is one which is still heavily under the Union, there is a core of drivers (who are on better terms than myself) that flat refuse any form of change. The job WAS advertised, although it wasn’t an easily found advert (I really had to hunt for it!) and tbh I don’t think it is a job for “everyone”, you can either do it or you can’t.
It’s not that I will be on £60-£80 a day more (I will be on more than my day rate currently) but IF I do overtime I’ll be around £200 a week better off or if I could legally do the hours I’m doing now (which I can’t because the current drivers refuse to come out of the night time working time directive rules) I’d be on over a grand a week.
It doesn’t come without it’s compromises though, Christmas Day working is required (you’re paid a premium for this) and some weekend work is required (out of 8 weeks you only get 5 weekend days off and only once are you off Saturday and Sunday and once Friday and Saturday), you can be called in at 24hrs notice on certain days on the rota too and you 100% can NOT refuse to do the shift, so it isn’t all a bed of roses.
What it should do though it easily maintain my standard of living while giving me a lot more time at home with my family and IF I do, do overtime I’ll be £ in.
Sounds great mate, bank hol and weekend working is part of the payback for these better jobs, there’s always a catch, because of my rotas i haven’t done Boxing Day for two years and i’m not rotad this year either, but once my rota comes round i’ll probably have to do it three years in a row, small price to pay for the rest of the job though.
You’ve had a good break, it took me 13 years before i got my big break, and that oddly enough was going down to driving vans, right place right time when the job altered i was in the big time pay league.
Now you’ve had a good break you’ll look at things differently, there might be the odd hiccup but you won’t look back…having seen whats outside you appreciate what you have more, some of our blokes would do well to remember this.
Best of luck with it mate.
Juddian:
NewLad:
Juddian:
New Lad, i don’t wish to pry nor know who its is you’re going to, and i like most here congratulate you on finding something substantially better.Purely out of interest, and i ask as the company i work for have never advertised, was this an advertised job (somehow i doubt it was) or was it one of those lucky right place right time or word of mouth moments, you presumably got the offer and snatched their hand off, just as anyone with an ounce of common sense would do.
Might be interesting to give an idea of how you secured such a good move, maybe inspire some of the other drivers with their heads screwed on well into doing similar when the opportunity arises.
If the job you are leaving is £60 to £80 a day behind they really do not deserve quality staff, and the sooner companies like them go to the wall or are forced to up their game to survive the better for all the good drivers out there.
The job is one which is still heavily under the Union, there is a core of drivers (who are on better terms than myself) that flat refuse any form of change. The job WAS advertised, although it wasn’t an easily found advert (I really had to hunt for it!) and tbh I don’t think it is a job for “everyone”, you can either do it or you can’t.
It’s not that I will be on £60-£80 a day more (I will be on more than my day rate currently) but IF I do overtime I’ll be around £200 a week better off or if I could legally do the hours I’m doing now (which I can’t because the current drivers refuse to come out of the night time working time directive rules) I’d be on over a grand a week.
It doesn’t come without it’s compromises though, Christmas Day working is required (you’re paid a premium for this) and some weekend work is required (out of 8 weeks you only get 5 weekend days off and only once are you off Saturday and Sunday and once Friday and Saturday), you can be called in at 24hrs notice on certain days on the rota too and you 100% can NOT refuse to do the shift, so it isn’t all a bed of roses.
What it should do though it easily maintain my standard of living while giving me a lot more time at home with my family and IF I do, do overtime I’ll be £ in.
Sounds great mate, bank hol and weekend working is part of the payback for these better jobs, there’s always a catch, because of my rotas i haven’t done Boxing Day for two years and i’m not rotad this year either, but once my rota comes round i’ll probably have to do it three years in a row, small price to pay for the rest of the job though.
You’ve had a good break, it took me 13 years before i got my big break, and that oddly enough was going down to driving vans, right place right time when the job altered i was in the big time pay league.
Now you’ve had a good break you’ll look at things differently, there might be the odd hiccup but you won’t look back…having seen whats outside you appreciate what you have more, some of our blokes would do well to remember this.
Best of luck with it mate.
Cheers pal, like you say you can’t have it all ways but they seem to care more and they are very upfront about what is expected at Christmas time etc so you can’t say you didn’t know beforehand.
O/p. I like your sentiments mate, but I don’t think whatever suggestion you make will materialize. The phrase ‘Exit interview’ says it all, it’s just management speak b/s, going through the motions, the latest buzz words to create an impression that they are more than a normal Transport co (bearing that in mind, it ain’t Stobarts is it…knock knock ) another scheme drummed up by some ■■■■ in an office on £30000 per year, which in realty means ■■■■ all.
Only advice I would give is tell them your reasons for leaving, be polite, no effin and jeffin at them, and don’t burn your bridges with them in case the next lot are the same or worse.
be polite, no effin and jeffin at them, and don’t burn your bridges with them in case
Best piece of advice so far
NewLad:
Now I know generally people go in and say “it’s [zb] here”, or “you expect too much for the day rate”, or “we get treated like [zb] by x, y, z”.
Be very careful going down that route because others say they will/have/would. There are a lot of blowhards who give it the big un to others but are meek lambs when dealing with the bosses/vosa etc. Ive seen some of them with my own eyes
I never turned up for the “interview” They called me and asked why and I just said, I was busy working elsewhere.
I recently had someone phone me for an exit interview. They had outsourced it to a third party 
Clearly, just box ticking exercise.
green456:
your wasting your time even going to the exit interview
+1
NewLad:
do you think I am wasting my time?
I think you are yes, a few days after you leave I think they will have forgotten about & replaced you. Drivers are 10 a penny!
rob22888:
I recently had someone phone me for an exit interview. They had outsourced it to a third party
That actually makes sense to me !!!
As you will tell the truth and reality to a third party where as the boss you may not.
And if they have bothered to pay someone to do it surely they listen to the company they Pay to listen to you ?
They may not like what they hear but if they hear it often enough they just might change.
3 wheeler:
rob22888:
I recently had someone phone me for an exit interview. They had outsourced it to a third partyThat actually makes sense to me !!!
As you will tell the truth and reality to a third party where as the boss you may not.
And if they have bothered to pay someone to do it surely they listen to the company they Pay to listen to you ?
They may not like what they hear but if they hear it often enough they just might change.
Why would you not tell the boss the truth unless you were either scared of him or some kind of yes man…or both.
If you start suggesting things like pool tables and fruit machines they will think drivers have too much time on their hands and money to ■■■■■ and raise the one and lower the other.
Just tell them why you leaving,you shouldn’t be scared as they cant sack you!
Why are you leaving?
More pay for less hours?
Hi
I,ve been through this exit interview scenario.
I told my immediate manager that anything I said wouldn,t benefit me because I was redundant and also retiring but one simple cost free thing he and the rest of the management could do is tell the workforce that their efforts are appreciated by the company and not every visit to the office is for a dressing down (could use stronger words but lets not lower the tone ) but could be used as a morale booster and to say thanks .
Many months later I heard he still uses the rule by fear and division approach.
Incidentally I always left a job on the basis that I. might , one day want to go back.
Bassman
Your right there Bassman,try not to burn bridges unless it’s really ■■■■,you never know do you.
Just to clear up a little thing, the reason i suggested the drivers room was because we often have to wait 3/4 hours for our loads in the morning and it would give drivers a place to relax while they wait, rather than all standing around the office for hours waiting and feeling fatigued when they finally get down the road.
NewLad:
Just to clear up a little thing, the reason i suggested the drivers room was because we often have to wait 3/4 hours for our loads in the morning and it would give drivers a place to relax while they wait, rather than all standing around the office for hours waiting and feeling fatigued when they finally get down the road.
too right mate, when drivers are at work why shouldn’t they be allowed to play pool and table tennis in their own dedicated room, any decent firm would get dancing girls in the dedicated room to serve refreshments to the poor fatigued drivers