alanjblack:
My main customer has just asked me to drop my rate to Belgium as a company based in Lux. has got Slovac registered trucks and drivers pulling skelly trailers with tank containers on for £150 less than me, told him, no way, so he cut my work load down.Good reliable service with top quality equipment means nothing.
Let me guess: your Lux-SK competitor is Kralowetz… right or wrong?
No, CBS or (Constance Bonivers)
alanjblack:
No, CBS or (Constance Bonivers)
Constant Bonivers SA? White trucks with two blue stripes?
I’ve never heard of them being active in C & E Europe… But I am not Jack The All-knowing
As far as I aware the Slovac side is CBS, white Stralis’s with CBS on side of cab, (Constance Bonivers Slovakia) that is what we are informed, maybe someone will know if that is correct.
Was in Rotterdam on Monday 5th Jan and 10 of them were with me waiting to load for destinations all over Europe with Belgium and Lux. reg. trailers.
V8 Passion:
Better H.
Yes, thank you.
We too fail to get 90% of the continental work we quote for because we can be undercut but that’s just the way it is. We can also be undercut on runs to Cornwall because wages and overheads are lower for Cornish hauliers but so what?
We live in a free market economy and people are entitled to choose the product they want at the price they want. If that means that the service is provided by non-UK residents then so what? I bet you don’t drive a British-built truck just because you wanted to keep British workers in employment.
Instead of just bellyaching about “all of these bloody foreigners”, can I gently ask you how you would rectify the problem you perceive if you had the power to do so?
Hi Harry
I dont run UK built trucks as there arnt any.
If I had the power to change things, I would create a level playing field, all countries would pay same tax for vehicles, fuel, same wages same licence law’s, then maybe we could compete on the service we give and the relationship with our customers.
We just quoted for a job to run cooking oil for bio fuel, got the job and the 18 hours before the customer was due to call in to confirm and sign a contract (first time we have been offered a sign contract) he called and asked us to drop our price from £890 to £550 as we had ben under cut.
We told him to go forth and multiply. politely, call us when they let him down.
Yep, dug it out.
It’s CBS Transports, registered address is in very posh area of Bratislava.
Owners are Belgians, messrs. RJM Constant and TLJ Bodson. (Un-) surprisingly these two gents are also HR director and deputy director resp. of Constant Bonivers Luxembourg.
The CBS Transports is licensed for genral trading, brokerage in production, services and trading, COMMERCIAL VEHICLES HIRE and domestic haulage.
Core capital SKK 200.000 (i.e. ~6640EUR, min amount required by law). I guess proving 9000eur worth of assets was not a problem as was not professional competence…
Typical example of out-flagging… so i am not sure if really “the bloody easterners” are to blame or the greed of westerners…
alanjblack:
If I had the power to change things…all countries would pay same tax for vehicles…, fuel, same wages same licence law’s.
Yea, half a Europe had it some time ago - it was called socialism. It worked well in some areas but it did not work well in many others.
There was no competition at all and quality of some services was c**p.
License laws are the same, for all countries of EU. Indvidual countries may alter them a bit, but only to make stricter, not softer. That UK’s governement chose to make them stricter is not to be knocked over Poles or Slovaks - these do not vote in UK’ election…
I understand it’s tough and frustrating for you. But it’s for others as well, also for the easterners
alanjblack:
If I had the power to change things, I would create a level playing field, all countries would pay same tax for vehicles, fuel, same wages same licence law’s, then maybe we could compete on the service we give and the relationship with our customers..
To a degree, I agree. Unified tax rates on everything is a basic requirement in a trade bloc- the USA would not have become so strong had they not unified State Laws- and the currency.
Imposing road tax on foreign vehicles is a tempting idea, but we are not a transit country, we are geographically at the edge of Europe, we are an importer/ exporter and so any tax on foreign trucks running in the UK would simply be passed on to UK consumers.
alanjblack:
Hi HarryI dont run UK built trucks as there arnt any.
If I had the power to change things, I would create a level playing field, all countries would pay same tax for vehicles, fuel, same wages same licence law’s, then maybe we could compete on the service we give and the relationship with our customers.
We just quoted for a job to run cooking oil for bio fuel, got the job and the 18 hours before the customer was due to call in to confirm and sign a contract (first time we have been offered a sign contract) he called and asked us to drop our price from £890 to £550 as we had ben under cut.
We told him to go forth and multiply. politely, call us when they let him down.
hello alan.
a company i know in ireland were bringing goods to malaga spain.
i dont know what the rate was.
nolan transport came in an cut it by 1000 euro per load.
hes the irish willi betz.
thats was one irish company to another,cant even blame it on eastern europeans.
although nolan has mostly easterners driving.
its a sad reflection on the industry that one will do such a thing.
I was pricing a job for one of our customers as we don’t go abroad we sub it out so phoning round for prices 1 thing surprised and pleased me.
Full trailer load from nr Venice back up to the Midlands.
A very well respected and established U.K. haulier was cheaper than LKW Walters. They were was enough difference in that if the job comes off the UK company will be doing it for us.
Go on Ben, tell us the rate.
Probably Stobarts doing it for free to Calais then charge them from Dover
Cant be a very good rate if they are cheaper than LKW Walters.
Theres hardly any money to be made in Europe, competing with the eastern EU countries, you cant compete…
Just look at Dell !
routier:
Probably Stobarts doing it for free to Calais then charge them from DoverCant be a very good rate if they are cheaper than LKW Walters.
Theres hardly any money to be made in Europe, competing with the eastern EU countries, you cant compete…
Just look at Dell !
It’s not Stobarts.
The rate must be good enough for them. The Haulier concerned has been going abroad since you used to have to reverse on the boat. So they are not new in the game.
£2200 But would need to know what type of goods and weight
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