Pimpdaddy:
bald bloke:
i’m not sure if they are going to buy any more .I think they will, comfortable & good on fuel apparently.
They won’t be concerned about the comfort side of things but certainly they would be interested in the good returns on fuel the Merc gives. They have some new Volvos and Daf’s though.
My Euro 6 daf xf will go two weeks between fills on the adblue, but the Euro 5 MAN’S that we have got will barely do a full week without needing topped up.
bald bloke:
They have some new Daf’s though.
Havent seen any, last ones I saw were xf sc with Cargill livery.
Pimpdaddy:
Havent seen any, last ones I saw were xf sc with Cargill livery.
I didn’t know they hauled carrots?
madmackem:
My Euro 6 daf xf will go two weeks between fills on the adblue, but the Euro 5 MAN’S that we have got will barely do a full week without needing topped up.
I didn’t think Euro 5 MANs used AdBlue. All the ones I’ve driven are EGR only.
IndigoJo:
madmackem:
My Euro 6 daf xf will go two weeks between fills on the adblue, but the Euro 5 MAN’S that we have got will barely do a full week without needing topped up.I didn’t think Euro 5 MANs used AdBlue. All the ones I’ve driven are EGR only.
I think the Euro 5 440 engine didn’t need adblue but the 480 and above did.
scanias have a half size ad blu tank as standard , or you can opt for a full depth tank as option .
the little one will only last 1.5 days , and once under half full guage just drops constantly .
there have been some issues with ad blu system , and am trying to train myself to ■■■■ on the floor and not in the tank , as perhaps this is the cause
Can Euro 6 engines be remapped to switch off the adblue? I know operators who’ve done it to Euro 5s (particularly Daf owners) and it’s made their trucks much more reliable.
bald bloke:
The Euro 6 Merc seems very unreliable we had a load in my last company and they were forever round the fitters, i’m not sure if they are going to buy any more .
Got the frecin thing back Monday pm.Tues am"Engine reduced power" warning,took it back in.
Its still there.
boredwivdrivin:
scanias have a half size ad blu tank as standard , or you can opt for a full depth tank as option .the little one will only last 1.5 days , and once under half full guage just drops constantly .
there have been some issues with ad blu system , and am trying to train myself to ■■■■ on the floor and not in the tank , as perhaps this is the cause
Got my new Scania Tues, ( ‘Van’ P280 [emoji1]) and not done much in it so far, 1400km and its down to 54% on adblue
Guy who dropped it off said tank holds 40ltr of adblue so to me it’s guzzling if it’s using much for such little travelling.
Muckaway:
Can Euro 6 engines be remapped to switch off the adblue? I know operators who’ve done it to Euro 5s (particularly Daf owners) and it’s made their trucks much more reliable.
Apparently not
I thought ■■■■ is basically what Adblue is?
The ammonia breaks down the NOx (Nitrous oxides) to nitrogen and water
G8YMW:
I thought ■■■■ is basically what Adblue is?
The ammonia breaks down the NOx (Nitrous oxides) to nitrogen and water
Its not “■■■■”, ammonia yes but you can’t go ■■■■■■■ in the tank and expect it to work. There are too many impuraties and other substances that would ruin the injection system if you used untreated urine.
I use about 40 litres a week and cover approx 2000miles, I’m heavy on the way out (up to 60tons) and light on the way home, I have two Volvos with the D13, I only drive one of them of course, but I’ve driven them both and they’re pretty evenly matched on liquid consumption.
Cold temperature increases adblue use, but I’m talking about mental minus 20c and lower cold, not normal cold. Fuel consumption affects it too, the more fuel you burn, the more adblue you use, when I got the first of the two I have it drunk a bit more adblue, but it went into Volvo for a service and they did some software updates that kept the soot level in the DPF lower through more passive regenerations (during normal driving) and the adblue use dropped as well, I don’t know if they did any upgrades to the adblue system as when I asked the service bloke didn’t have a clue what it was all about, just that my truck had software upgrades.
Maybe an idea to check with the dealer to see if there are any for your truck if it has an appetite for the stuff?
chaversdad:
Muckaway:
Can Euro 6 engines be remapped to switch off the adblue? I know operators who’ve done it to Euro 5s (particularly Daf owners) and it’s made their trucks much more reliable.Apparently not
Hopefully we’ll get a secondhand grab then, hate topping up adblue. 
Its still in the main dealers.
Apparentlly its a software problem.
Not bad for a lorry that is 2 months short of its 1st test.
Suedehead:
Its still in the main dealers.
Apparentlly its a software problem.
Not bad for a lorry that is 2 months short of its 1st test.
That explains why there are a lot of new Arocs 8wheelers on offer then. No wonder that Scania charge what they do for a P cab.
Muckaway:
Suedehead:
Its still in the main dealers.
Apparentlly its a software problem.
Not bad for a lorry that is 2 months short of its 1st test.That explains why there are a lot of new Arocs 8wheelers on offer then. No wonder that Scania charge what they do for a P cab.
Was informed today that it could take another 2/3 weeks to sort the “problem” out.
Hiring in a lorry Monday,needless too say Mercedes are paying.
Problem with Euro 6 engines is that they use two crap systems,addblue tagged on to the back of EGR.
A bloody disaster.
EGR puts exhaust gas back into the engine.Now thats bad enough but the real problem is that it runs through some bloody heat exchanger that is water cooled.One thing you do not want is water anywhere near an inlet manifold.All it takes is a leak in the exchanger and you got a few bent con rods.The exhaust gas is highly acidic,eats through the exchanger matrix and bang the motors a write off.
Then you got add blue.This bloody crap crystalises as you look at it.Low air pressure when you turn off the motor,no purge air and the whole system clogs up solid.Thousand quid bill to clear or replace the diffuser unit.Then you got the stupid bloody paticulate filter that has to be used because of the cold exhaust gas being pumped into the engine from the stupid bloody EGR heat exchanger.As the exhaust gas has a low exit temperature soot forms on the filter blocking the matrix and putting up a differential pressure fault on the dash.If regeneration fails then another few grand for a silencer.
Also you got the 2 thermal probes and the NOx “sensor” to fail as well.
This crap has nothing to do with lower “emissions” its about making a lot of money.
A total bloody con.
IndigoJo:
madmackem:
My Euro 6 daf xf will go two weeks between fills on the adblue, but the Euro 5 MAN’S that we have got will barely do a full week without needing topped up.I didn’t think Euro 5 MANs used AdBlue. All the ones I’ve driven are EGR only.
Euro 5 just use EGR and they are all having their big end and main bearing shells changed (done 5 of the bloody things so far)
What a crap engine.Bloody things bend con rods and smash liners for fun.