You may like to know that the picture below is currently on ebay. Robert
Here’s the answer to the mysterious Antwerpen reference. I was looking for something else on ‘flickrhivermind’ and I found that workshop picture (below). It is captioned: ‘ERF MW Assembly CDB in Brussels’. So it’s Brussels, then. I’ve no idea where on the net I got the one captioned ‘Antwerp’ instead of Brussels. Mind you, it might be Antwerp anyway for all I know, and maybe someone corrected the original because it was wrong! So now it has a 50% chance of being right. 
Robert
Be assured that Van Steenbergen did NOT have (experience with) an ERF 5MW as I agree with
A-J, their yard was FULL with tractors (awaiting) active operations! There were at least about
3-4 tractors in stock to have KRUPP-■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ at end of sixties…regularly bought
in Germany at low prices as Germans did not trust warranty and spares-delivery from MB then!
Even in 1986 you could encounter their red-yellow on the road, though on Belgian roads!
That confirms also tiptop/eric by stating instalments in (other) Krupp’s, Van Steenbergen bought
the whole inventory in 1968 of Krupp in Anderlecht, which was quite a volume!!!
Found some input on the 5MW (A-J often wrote MW5) and BOTH vehicles WERE assembled out
of CKD-packages in Brussels! Pay attention to ‘continental’ mirrors, which appear plastic to me
and the West-Coast-indicators, as used on US-trucks, but now used as roof-lights.
The 1969 5MW had ■■■■■■■ 220 and the 1970 5MW had ■■■■■■■ 310, as an extra the interior.
Ow, to prevent remarks…the 1969 picture and 1970 picture are from the SAME vehicle
assembled in Brussels and for the THOROUGH Sherlock Holmes here, the shiny wheel-cap
on the co-driver side was not there but probably reserved for A-J who gave wonderful and
valuable input out of his extensive archives, both ERF, ■■■■■■■ and CDB!
That looks like a 9-speed Fuller gear-lever to me. I am intrigued by the two-spoked steering wheel. The interior picture (below) of a right-hand-drive 5MW shows a four-spoked steering wheel. NGCs (with the 7MW cab) had the three-spoked steering wheel. I imagine that reflects the fact that the exhibition truck had a pre-A-series chassis, but the RHD 5MW may have had a pre A-series chassis too (if the steering wheel is anything to go by); and the A-series (straight chassis) and 7MWs (which had the advanced ‘waisted’ chassis) had the 3-spoke wheel. Robert
Well noticed differences on steering-wheel…a new feature? I recall some remarks in which Robert1952
saw no reason at all to proceed on types and position of mirror-brackets, indicators, but surprisingly now
our attention was drawn to types and colours of steering wheels.
The 5MW (both 1969 and 1970) had ROADRANGER type RTO-909A, so Robert was again well-informed!
I was too fast…1969 Brussels of 5MW assembled in Brussels…hopefully nobody again doubts Antwerp nor Wobbe’s input.
BTW, those moulded indicators you call ‘west coast’ were ubiquitous in Britain and appeared on pretty-well all makes of commercial vehicle during the '60s and '70s. I remarked originally that this style only appeared on a very few of the 7MW cabs: I do not recall withdrawing that comment. Robert
Alexander…never mind, Robert still seats in his pope-chair judging…now the US-common indicators are
suddenly not that seldom and what he does is invite you in the next/usual trap of discussions, where first
details were to be ignored/replaced and then suddenly very rare or common.
I told you…it is push and pull here again or still. Really not very constructive, that being said actually the
whole theread on 7MW could be reduced to only 5-10 pages maximum.
Look forward to our meeting next week and I have the required copies of CDB-archives foryou.
ERF-Continental:
Alexander…never mind, Robert still seats in his pope-chair judging…now the US-common indicators are
suddenly not that seldom and what he does is invite you in the next/usual trap of discussions, where first
details were to be ignored/replaced and then suddenly very rare or common.I told you…it is push and pull here again or still. Really not very constructive, that being said actually the
whole theread on 7MW could be reduced to only 5-10 pages maximum.Look forward to our meeting next week and I have the required copies of CDB-archives foryou.
I only ever said that those lenses were seldom among 7MWs, not the rest of the UK truck industry. That’s not a judgement, as you call it, it is an observation. Just because I say something you don’t agree with, that doesn’t make me opioniated, judgemental or destructive - it means you don’t agree. So what!
Robert
Would you only be so smart to be aware this is the thread on 5MW which you then doubted as well, but meanwhile
opened several LHD- and (NON-)European-threads, so don’t mix up the stuff. It was to confirm (w.r.t. 3300John then
said on Sun Works bins) that also CDB used whatever they had in stock for assembly and for that reason also the US-
indicators (common on White’s) as well as continental- and West-coast-mirrors. You’re really SPECIAL and very skilled
to keep other participants away the moment some input is given. Have a nice summer!
Wish you well on other threads and can imagine you eventually should leave here as you
had hardly news on 5MW’s and then it is so easy to doubt and mix-up subjects!
Come on gents,memories,knowledge and friendship is what this website is about,myself i am interested in ERF’s campain to compete in europe,not arguements so please lets enjoy more pics and memories,please?ta,Pete
Robert does have a point, there’s been similar input on the other threads. I myself suggested that there was a bit of jealousy at work, especially as before Robert turned up none of these so called experts had started threads on ERFs to share their “knowledge”
Whether Robert has right or not…I think it was a good thing to split content on
the various relevant threads as ERF was complex in chassis-types, thus A, B, C, E,
EC and ongoing or with the (possible) equivalent with appropriate cab-types, thus
KV, LV, MV and W as sleeper-code. So for the right type the right thread?
I very much regret A-J still will not continue with the thread on Ets. A. Denonville
or later known as ■■■■■■■ Distributor Belgium, which for sure would release a lot
of (until then unknown) nice heritage. During my meeting with him he provided a
nice selection of documents, pictures and the first three chapters of the book…
I will try to persuade him before World Championship soccer and summer though.
Personally I enjoy Roberts posts and respect his knowledge of the marque.
David
pete smith:
Come on gents,memories,knowledge and friendship is what this website is about,myself i am interested in ERF’s campain to compete in europe,not arguements so please lets enjoy more pics and memories,please?ta,Pete
En-Tour-Age:
Whether Robert has right or not…I think it was a good thing to split content on
the various relevant threads as ERF was complex in chassis-types, thus A, B, C, E,
EC and ongoing or with the (possible) equivalent with appropriate cab-types, thus
KV, LV, MV and W as sleeper-code. So for the right type the right thread?I don’t agree with stating ‘what a ■■■■■■’ which appears very respectless (in US you
would risk more with such remarks) and wisely A-J did not answer accordingly.
I think he made the right choice to end all of his input and appearance. To be clear,
I am convinced ‘several’ remarks made on this thread are far from correct but also
for me hanging around here is hindering me.I very much regret A-J will not continue with Ets. A. Denonville / ■■■■■■■ Distributor
Belgium as a thread, which would for sure release a lot of (unknown) nice heritage.
David Miller:
Personally I enjoy Roberts posts and respect his knowledge of the marque.David
I agree with all of the above
cheers
gaz